Sourdough breadmaking

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oddman

2,352 posts

253 months

Sunday 21st August 2022
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Baguettes following Tartine recipe. Photo colours don't really do them justice - a nice orange colour and not burnt.

Not entirely sourdough - uses a combination of sourdough leaven and poolish made with a tiny portion of dried yeast. Pinched about a third to make pizza on Friday and then retarded overnight shaped and baked yesterday.

I think baguettes are like the Mount Everest of bread making - this is the first time I've got the slashes opening up well and a bit of an 'ear' on them but still not quite there

illmonkey

18,231 posts

199 months

Sunday 21st August 2022
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They look scrummy, but where’s the money shot?!

oddman

2,352 posts

253 months

Sunday 21st August 2022
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Will get back to you. Some left this morning so will be opening them for some steak sandwiches later today.

21TonyK

11,553 posts

210 months

Sunday 21st August 2022
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oddman said:


Baguettes following Tartine recipe. Photo colours don't really do them justice - a nice orange colour and not burnt.

Not entirely sourdough - uses a combination of sourdough leaven and poolish made with a tiny portion of dried yeast. Pinched about a third to make pizza on Friday and then retarded overnight shaped and baked yesterday.

I think baguettes are like the Mount Everest of bread making - this is the first time I've got the slashes opening up well and a bit of an 'ear' on them but still not quite there
Looking good. I tried baguettes years ago and never got anything close to a proper loaf. May give it another go when I get some decent flour.

oddman

2,352 posts

253 months

Sunday 21st August 2022
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21TonyK said:
Looking good. I tried baguettes years ago and never got anything close to a proper loaf. May give it another go when I get some decent flour.
This recipe calls for 'general purpose' flour and bread flour in a roughly 5:2 ratio and only about 50% hydration (discounting the starters which are 100%

Obviously a fine French flour would be ideal but I use 00 as the general purpose flour and it works nicely. It is outstanding the the biproduct pizzas

Developing tension in the dough, overnight prove in fridge, shaping and steam in the oven are really essential to getting spring.

I got a 10mm piece of steel cut to fit my oven, finished it with a file and seasoned it - works really well.

I put a tray with a damp towel in the bottom of the oven and mist the loaves before cooking. Hot oven for ten minutes then remove the tray/towel and cure for another 10 minutes depending on how done they are.

Money shots as promised




Edited by oddman on Sunday 21st August 12:29

21TonyK

11,553 posts

210 months

Sunday 21st August 2022
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oddman said:
I got a 10mm piece of steel cut to fit my oven, finished it with a file and seasoned it - works really well.
Agree, my kids bought me one of these and it makes a world of difference in a domestic oven.

https://www.doublezerolab.com/baking-steel-pizza-s...

Unfortunately they've pulled the plug due to material and shipping costs but it is just a sheet of steel as you say and you could get one cut anywhere.

number2

4,325 posts

188 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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Back in the Sourdough game after an extended break.

First use of the batard banneton.

Same dough mix for both loaves, my shaping was poor for both, especially so for the batard. Could explain why the boule has more surface bubbles.

Think I prefer the batard shape - more practical to cut/use.

I'm not chasing ears or a lot of aeration anymore, as I always end up disappointed. These turned out well and I should be happy with that!

C. 70pc hydration, machine mixed followed by slap and folds for c. 30 min. Proofed for c. 6 hours until doubled, then shaped and in the fridge for c. 10 hours.




21TonyK

11,553 posts

210 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
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Total cheat but as demanded by Miss21, malted date and walnut bread. Just used one of those malted bread mixes and chucked everything in with some black treacle and a bit of honey. Perfect with thick butter and strong cheddar.


oddman

2,352 posts

253 months

Saturday 17th September 2022
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Probably my best yet

The Count

3,272 posts

264 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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Going to read the whole thread and slowly drink it all in....loving my sourdough at the moment and want to learn more.
(went on an artisan bread making course (Welbeck Abbey) and thought i knew it all....i knew nothing and learned a lot)

latest effort


chemistry

2,171 posts

110 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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75% white, 25% malted flour. Two teaspoons of purple sweet potato powder.


Bowside

2,043 posts

233 months

Friday 21st October 2022
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Awesome, is that a Halloween special?

Ben Lowden

6,078 posts

178 months

PH Marketing Bloke

Friday 21st October 2022
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oddman said:


Probably my best yet
Belated congratulations! That looks ace.

chemistry

2,171 posts

110 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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Bowside said:
Awesome, is that a Halloween special?
I tried it just for fun, but it actually turned out quite well. Seems to be a bit more moist than usual.

Apparently adding potato flour has this effect (more moist, longer lasting, etc) so I’m wondering whether the sweet potato powder (in effect, sweet potato flour) does too.

illmonkey

18,231 posts

199 months

Sunday 23rd October 2022
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Recently purchased a mixed with a dough blade, thought I’d give it a go to save some time mixing

It did, but added time to washing up!

Might be a little moist, but this is the same recipe I’ve used before with good results. Suppose I’ll find out in 12-18 hours!


illmonkey

18,231 posts

199 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Eugh, what an annoying loaf. I can’t find my proving baskets (I’m living out of boxes atm) so had to try a glass bowl with parchment paper. I turned it out onto more parchment paper to get the right shape in my Dutch oven, found out it sticks like st to parchment paper, so had to scrape it off 1 sheet and just go with it.

Not the best, but edible at least.


oddman

2,352 posts

253 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Latest batch. Phone camera doesn't really do justice to colour - they're much redder in hue and the 'ears' aren't as burnt as they look

Standard sourdough boule on left. Olive bread on right.

Made up with 144g 50% hydration levain, 1200g of flour and 800g water.

Tartine recipe x 1.2 for boule, olive bread and three pizzas last night

Took a third out after the first fold and added a cup of olives roughly chopped and the zest of a lemon

After completing folds, split the remaining plain dough in half for the pizzas and the boule

ChocolateFrog

25,614 posts

174 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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oddman said:
This recipe calls for 'general purpose' flour and bread flour in a roughly 5:2 ratio and only about 50% hydration (discounting the starters which are 100%

Obviously a fine French flour would be ideal but I use 00 as the general purpose flour and it works nicely. It is outstanding the the biproduct pizzas

Developing tension in the dough, overnight prove in fridge, shaping and steam in the oven are really essential to getting spring.

I got a 10mm piece of steel cut to fit my oven, finished it with a file and seasoned it - works really well.

I put a tray with a damp towel in the bottom of the oven and mist the loaves before cooking. Hot oven for ten minutes then remove the tray/towel and cure for another 10 minutes depending on how done they are.

Money shots as promised




Edited by oddman on Sunday 21st August 12:29
That sandwich looks delicious.

Might have to rescue my starter from the back of the fridge.

mrsshpub

904 posts

185 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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illmonkey said:
Eugh, what an annoying loaf. I can’t find my proving baskets (I’m living out of boxes atm) so had to try a glass bowl with parchment paper. I turned it out onto more parchment paper to get the right shape in my Dutch oven, found out it sticks like st to parchment paper, so had to scrape it off 1 sheet and just go with it.

Not the best, but edible at least.

An oiled Pyrex bowl dusted well with porridge oats works well as an alternative to a banneton (no sticking issues) and the resultant toasted oats add an extra texture & taste dimension.

The Count

3,272 posts

264 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2022
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Tried this new recipe link and pleased with the results. smile