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I do object to the way they think they're changing the world.
Beer has been done before, and done better, and cheaper. Bars - also been done.
Their beer is fine, but not at all special. It all rings so hollow.
All they're doing well is overcharging hipsters (which is easy). Granted, none of the other breweries managed, or even tried, to do this.
I'd ask the groovy hipster if he thinks bitter is so great, why he wasn't drinking it already? What a load of b
ks.
Beer has been done before, and done better, and cheaper. Bars - also been done.
Their beer is fine, but not at all special. It all rings so hollow.
All they're doing well is overcharging hipsters (which is easy). Granted, none of the other breweries managed, or even tried, to do this.
I'd ask the groovy hipster if he thinks bitter is so great, why he wasn't drinking it already? What a load of b
ks.Slink said:
Personally I wouldnt touch them with a 100 foot bargepole, but thats as I think their beer tastes like utter st and has a horrible aftertaste.
beer should taste like beer, not horrible weirdness with a nasty aftertaste.
that is just my opinion and i know others might like brewdogs offering, but I would rather drink my own piss if dying of thirst than drink that crap and i have tryed most of there stuff, 'just the once'.
Agree with all that!t and has a horrible aftertaste.beer should taste like beer, not horrible weirdness with a nasty aftertaste.
that is just my opinion and i know others might like brewdogs offering, but I would rather drink my own piss if dying of thirst than drink that crap and i have tryed most of there stuff, 'just the once'.
SpeckledJim said:
I do object to the way they think they're changing the world.
Beer has been done before, and done better, and cheaper. Bars - also been done.
Their beer is fine, but not at all special. It all rings so hollow.
All they're doing well is overcharging hipsters (which is easy). Granted, none of the other breweries managed, or even tried, to do this.
I'd ask the groovy hipster if he thinks bitter is so great, why he wasn't drinking it already? What a load of bks.
Because cider was the vogue last year. Not sure about 2015 yet. Possibly fruit beers like 2011??Beer has been done before, and done better, and cheaper. Bars - also been done.
Their beer is fine, but not at all special. It all rings so hollow.
All they're doing well is overcharging hipsters (which is easy). Granted, none of the other breweries managed, or even tried, to do this.
I'd ask the groovy hipster if he thinks bitter is so great, why he wasn't drinking it already? What a load of b
ks.I like their products - particularly Punk IPA and Dead Pony Club - although I don't much care for the branding or their marketing.
I developed a taste for craft IPA in the States and was delighted to find someone doing it here - I'm pleased that they and those who invested have made some money.
The problem is that there are plenty of new entrants - you're spoilt for choice for similar beers either in the pub or on the supermarket shelves. I bought a bottle of Tesco's own label Citra/Chinook IPA at half the price of Punk IPA last week and it was just as nice. Difficult to see how they can maintain their premium pricing and market position going forward.
I developed a taste for craft IPA in the States and was delighted to find someone doing it here - I'm pleased that they and those who invested have made some money.
The problem is that there are plenty of new entrants - you're spoilt for choice for similar beers either in the pub or on the supermarket shelves. I bought a bottle of Tesco's own label Citra/Chinook IPA at half the price of Punk IPA last week and it was just as nice. Difficult to see how they can maintain their premium pricing and market position going forward.
SpeckledJim said:
I do object to the way they think they're changing the world.
Beer has been done before, and done better, and cheaper. Bars - also been done.
Their beer is fine, but not at all special. It all rings so hollow.
All they're doing well is overcharging hipsters (which is easy). Granted, none of the other breweries managed, or even tried, to do this.
I'd ask the groovy hipster if he thinks bitter is so great, why he wasn't drinking it already? What a load of bks.
Beer has been done before, and done better, and cheaper. Bars - also been done.
Their beer is fine, but not at all special. It all rings so hollow.
All they're doing well is overcharging hipsters (which is easy). Granted, none of the other breweries managed, or even tried, to do this.
I'd ask the groovy hipster if he thinks bitter is so great, why he wasn't drinking it already? What a load of b
ks.
The business model seems to be based on overcharging gullible hipsters, which is fine by me
I would disagree on your use of the word "fine" to describe the beer, though. To me it tastes weird. Every time I try one of their products I find myself wondering why anyone would choose to drink it in preference to proper beer.
Blown2CV said:
"weird aftertaste"... so, hops then. That taste which is completely absent from the stty mainstream lager we've been plagued with in the UK for decades. I know many Brewdog beers aren't for everyone, but that's kind of the point. Mass production is for mass tastes.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of mass-produced pap. Small real ale breweries are where it's at as far as I'm concerned. I have no issue with heavily-hopped ale, it's just that I prefer traditional bitter made with Fuggles or Goldings and such. There's no shortage of decent beer where I live, I think I've been drinking it too long to find the newer craft beers an attractive alternative.tty mainstream lager we've been plagued with in the UK for decades. I know many Brewdog beers aren't for everyone, but that's kind of the point. Mass production is for mass tastes.Craft IPA ain't going anywhere. People I know that used to drink fosters now drink Camden Pale Ale, Bredog, Meantime, Sierra Nevada, etc instead. Pubs near me now all have a craft IPA on tap if not 2 or 3 and I live in the suburbs. Go to a London pub and you'll find similar or more with some now barely serving the old guard lagers.
The only thing stopping the adoption on a wider scale is stubbornness I think. When people try these other beers more often than not they like them. It will only get bigger IMO.
The only thing stopping the adoption on a wider scale is stubbornness I think. When people try these other beers more often than not they like them. It will only get bigger IMO.
Gaspode said:
Blown2CV said:
"weird aftertaste"... so, hops then. That taste which is completely absent from the stty mainstream lager we've been plagued with in the UK for decades. I know many Brewdog beers aren't for everyone, but that's kind of the point. Mass production is for mass tastes.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of mass-produced pap. Small real ale breweries are where it's at as far as I'm concerned. I have no issue with heavily-hopped ale, it's just that I prefer traditional bitter made with Fuggles or Goldings and such. There's no shortage of decent beer where I live, I think I've been drinking it too long to find the newer craft beers an attractive alternative.tty mainstream lager we've been plagued with in the UK for decades. I know many Brewdog beers aren't for everyone, but that's kind of the point. Mass production is for mass tastes.Gaspode said:
Blown2CV said:
"weird aftertaste"... so, hops then. That taste which is completely absent from the stty mainstream lager we've been plagued with in the UK for decades. I know many Brewdog beers aren't for everyone, but that's kind of the point. Mass production is for mass tastes.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of mass-produced pap. Small real ale breweries are where it's at as far as I'm concerned. I have no issue with heavily-hopped ale, it's just that I prefer traditional bitter made with Fuggles or Goldings and such. There's no shortage of decent beer where I live, I think I've been drinking it too long to find the newer craft beers an attractive alternative.tty mainstream lager we've been plagued with in the UK for decades. I know many Brewdog beers aren't for everyone, but that's kind of the point. Mass production is for mass tastes.Quite a few of their beers are very good.
The Craft Beer market is getting far bigger these days with even the supermarkets keeping sizeable ranges of quality beers.
We have three craft beer bars in Aberdeen. Brewdog, Six Degrees North and Casc.
All bars are amongst the busiest in Aberdeen even with their premium prices.
I'll also add that the behaviour of people in these bars is better than normal busy bars.
There does seem to be a lot of people who have a right issue with all of them for some reason. It's a bar, if you don't like it you simply don't have to go near it.
The Craft Beer market is getting far bigger these days with even the supermarkets keeping sizeable ranges of quality beers.
We have three craft beer bars in Aberdeen. Brewdog, Six Degrees North and Casc.
All bars are amongst the busiest in Aberdeen even with their premium prices.
I'll also add that the behaviour of people in these bars is better than normal busy bars.
There does seem to be a lot of people who have a right issue with all of them for some reason. It's a bar, if you don't like it you simply don't have to go near it.
Gaspode said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of mass-produced pap. Small real ale breweries are where it's at as far as I'm concerned. I have no issue with heavily-hopped ale, it's just that I prefer traditional bitter made with Fuggles or Goldings and such. There's no shortage of decent beer where I live, I think I've been drinking it too long to find the newer craft beers an attractive alternative.
Real ale and craft beers are my favourite thing to drink in bars and pubs. Over the past couple of years, hop-forward beers have become very prominent in the brewing scene in the UK (bolstered also by UK brewers doing American styled beers and lagers). Many are nice, but some are somewhat over-hopped to the point where drinking a pint leaves your mouth feeling dry! I much prefer a nice brown mild or even better, a rich and nutty bitter. Podie said:
truck71 said:
So, what is a craft beer exactly?
Generally regarded as one that produces a small volume of beer or are smaller scale.I think BrewDog are pushing that definition now...
http://www.brewdog.com/blog-article/craft-beer-v-r...
half of their argument is beer should be cold (I disagree) and that 'craft' is a branding phenomenon...
I'm not convinced
I quite enjoy some of the Brew Dog stuff, used to live round the corner from the bar in Aberdeen which helped.
However does anyone know if they have changed the Punk IPA recipe recently? I had a pint of it in the Glasgow bar and it was nowhere near as good as I remember - this was backed up by sampling a few bottles of it from Tesco as well.
5am stuff is nice though so not a big problem.
Seems to be very popular down here - quite a few bars have their "this is lager" on tap permanently and you usually see a few bottles behind the bar too.
However does anyone know if they have changed the Punk IPA recipe recently? I had a pint of it in the Glasgow bar and it was nowhere near as good as I remember - this was backed up by sampling a few bottles of it from Tesco as well.
5am stuff is nice though so not a big problem.
Seems to be very popular down here - quite a few bars have their "this is lager" on tap permanently and you usually see a few bottles behind the bar too.
I like real ale. I like Brewdog. But it's a different product to what CAMRA was trying to promote. They aren't traditional English real ales with twigs and bits of badger in them. And nor are they the nasty stuff CAMRA was trying to break the dominance of. They are modern beers with character. They do make a fair point that a lot of traditional real ales are unremarkable.
I'm amused to hear that hipsters are drinking it - must be something about beards.
I'm amused to hear that hipsters are drinking it - must be something about beards.
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