Japanese 'folded' kitchen knives

Japanese 'folded' kitchen knives

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Coneyhurst Blue

583 posts

192 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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richwig83 said:
One thing I meant to ask... What about import duty?
Knife has arrived !
It's beautiful but I'm not allowed it till Christmas.

Marked as a kitchen tool with a value of $20 !

wiggy001

6,545 posts

271 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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Coneyhurst Blue said:
Knife has arrived !
It's beautiful but I'm not allowed it till Christmas.

Marked as a kitchen tool with a value of $20 !
Mine (£50ish knife) was ticked as a "gift".

Juicetin1

604 posts

190 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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I've got a couple of Tojiro DP's from www.nipponkitchen.com
VG10 core, very pleased with them, recommended for under £50.

bga

8,134 posts

251 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Odie said:
I know a great deal about metallurgy (that degree in mechanical engineering I have kinda helps) and knife making.. No need to troll/flame me, I have an open mind on this subject, BUT sharpness is not a factor of the metal used.

ETA - The knife that's just been linked as a beginner knife while a thing of beauty isn't I don't believe a 'folded' steel its laminated.
The attainable sharpness, how long the edge is retained and the ability to sharpen are all dependent on the material used. BUT I do question the ability of many mere mortals to get very close the ultimate sharpness of a blade and think in the real world it matters far less than an individuals ability to properly sharpen their kit.

For what it's worth I have Japanese, French & German knives in a mixture of stainless & non-stainless grades of steel and all of them can be made bd sharp (tm) with some TLC.

richwig83

14,224 posts

138 months

Friday 20th December 2013
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Well... thats bloody impressive service if I've ever seen it!


p.s. sorry about the crap photo... better ones to come.

Edited by richwig83 on Friday 20th December 12:36

scottri

951 posts

182 months

Saturday 21st December 2013
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richwig83 said:
Well... thats bloody impressive service if I've ever seen it!


p.s. sorry about the crap photo... better ones to come.

Edited by richwig83 on Friday 20th December 12:36
Amazing how quickly it arrives isnt it!

How you finding the knife? I'm loving mine.

richwig83

14,224 posts

138 months

Saturday 21st December 2013
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scottri said:
richwig83 said:
Well... thats bloody impressive service if I've ever seen it!


p.s. sorry about the crap photo... better ones to come.

Edited by richwig83 on Friday 20th December 12:36
Amazing how quickly it arrives isnt it!

How you finding the knife? I'm loving mine.
Have not used it yet, getting in on Xmas day.

matt.m

287 posts

218 months

Tuesday 24th December 2013
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Hi

I was looking to purchase 2 knifes as a thank you for my father in law for housing us for a year for free while we wait on our house.

He is looking for a meat carving knife and a general chefs knife. Which would be recommended?

richwig83

14,224 posts

138 months

Thursday 26th December 2013
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Used the saiun knife now and it's great. Almost perfectly balanced and razor sharp. Bit bigger than my current knife but that's not a problem.

Happy.

uncinqsix

3,239 posts

210 months

Thursday 26th December 2013
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matt.m said:
Hi

I was looking to purchase 2 knifes as a thank you for my father in law for housing us for a year for free while we wait on our house.

He is looking for a meat carving knife and a general chefs knife. Which would be recommended?
The nearest thing the Japanese have to a carving knife is a slicer known as a Sujihiki, but at least one manufacturer (Hattori) does a proper western carver as well. For the general chef's knife, you want a Gyuto, either a 210 or 240mm. Japanese knives are lighter than the usual european suspects, so you can comfortably go a bit longer than you might expect: a 240mm (9 1/2") Gyuto feels lighter and more agile than an 8" german chef's knife.

As for brands, that depends on your budget. As it's a gift, you might want to look at something pretty like the Hattori HDs. I'm also a fan of the Misono range, which are very well made and are nice and sharp out of the box.

Otherwise, just have a look around that site and see what takes your fancy.They don't sell any rubbish.

Edited by uncinqsix on Thursday 26th December 23:05

Juicetin1

604 posts

190 months

Friday 27th December 2013
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I definitely recommend Misono, i've just picked up one of their Molybdenum gyutos. Very high quality and incredibly sharp. Reasonably priced and it arrived in 3 days from Japan.

matt.m

287 posts

218 months

Friday 27th December 2013
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uncinqsix said:
The nearest thing the Japanese have to a carving knife is a slicer known as a Sujihiki, but at least one manufacturer (Hattori) does a proper western carver as well. For the general chef's knife, you want a Gyuto, either a 210 or 240mm. Japanese knives are lighter than the usual european suspects, so you can comfortably go a bit longer than you might expect: a 240mm (9 1/2") Gyuto feels lighter and more agile than an 8" german chef's knife.

As for brands, that depends on your budget. As it's a gift, you might want to look at something pretty like the Hattori HDs. I'm also a fan of the Misono range, which are very well made and are nice and sharp out of the box.

Otherwise, just have a look around that site and see what takes your fancy.They don't sell any rubbish.

Edited by uncinqsix on Thursday 26th December 23:05
Thanks for that - will have a look at those suggestions

ascayman

12,748 posts

216 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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I went to test drive some globals last weekend but couldn't get on with feel and weight of them, have done a little research and have ordered a set of these http://www.chefsknifestore.co.uk/ following good reviews in the times, independent and amazon. should arrive Saturday will report back.


rich83

14,224 posts

138 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Just given it a 20min sharpen... back to razor sharp now.

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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rich83 said:


Just given it a 20min sharpen... back to razor sharp now.
How do you do point work with that with such a poor curve to the blade though?


rich83

14,224 posts

138 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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I tend not to chop like that so it doesnt bother me.

Crusoe

4,068 posts

231 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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might need a poll for who has done themselves an injury, can confirm that nails don't stop a sharp knife very quickly...

Cotty

39,521 posts

284 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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Crusoe said:
might need a poll for who has done themselves an injury, can confirm that nails don't stop a sharp knife very quickly...
I have cut myself with my Japanese knife and previously with a Sainsbury's special. The difference is you don't tend to notice the cut with a Japanese knife.

rich83

14,224 posts

138 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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Ive cut my nail a bit. My wife has cut herself twice quite badly.... and not used it since. :-S

HarryW

15,150 posts

269 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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ascayman said:
I went to test drive some globals last weekend but couldn't get on with feel and weight of them, have done a little research and have ordered a set of these http://www.chefsknifestore.co.uk/ following good reviews in the times, independent and amazon. should arrive Saturday will report back.
How did you get on with the D67's then?