Weber question

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arfur

3,871 posts

214 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Fotic said:
KFC said:
Carrying the chimney over to the bbq ended up with loads of roasting hot coals all over the patio.
I think you're using the chimney wrongly!

I light mine in situ and then just up-end it when the top coals are grey. Why are you lighting it elsewhere?
The idea is you put 1/2 the coals in the grill and 1/2 in the chimney. You then light a few firelighters on top of the grill coals in the middle and put the chimney on top. Once that is flaming like a bugger you tip them over and distribute. Works perfectly every time

Fotic

719 posts

129 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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arfur said:
Fotic said:
KFC said:
Carrying the chimney over to the bbq ended up with loads of roasting hot coals all over the patio.
I think you're using the chimney wrongly!

I light mine in situ and then just up-end it when the top coals are grey. Why are you lighting it elsewhere?
The idea is you put 1/2 the coals in the grill and 1/2 in the chimney. You then light a few firelighters on top of the grill coals in the middle and put the chimney on top. Once that is flaming like a bugger you tip them over and distribute. Works perfectly every time
That's not how I do it. I've always done it how weber suggest: http://www.weber.com/weber-nation/grill-skills/mas...

My question was, why is he lighting it somewhere else and then carrying it over to the bbq?

KFC

Original Poster:

3,687 posts

130 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Fotic said:
I think you're using the chimney wrongly!

I light mine in situ and then just up-end it when the top coals are grey. Why are you lighting it elsewhere?
Because I was ending up with burnt bits of newspaper stuck all over the part you cook food on. I need to get a wire brush to rub those off really. I was lighting the chimney sitting in my old brick bbq.

Fotic said:
That's not how I do it. I've always done it how weber suggest: http://www.weber.com/weber-nation/grill-skills/mas...
Yup thats how i've been doing it

silverous

1,008 posts

134 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Are you sitting the chimney on top of the top cooking grate? I just got one so no expert but I remove the cooking grate, tip the hot coals from the chimney onto the charcoal grate, then put the cooking grate in place, no newspaper bits around by that stage?

KFC

Original Poster:

3,687 posts

130 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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I had been sitting it on the cooking grate yeah. I guess the smart way to do things is remove that, and sit the chimney directly on the grate below that. I'm assuming even with the handle on it, it'll fit in there?

silverous

1,008 posts

134 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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KFC said:
I had been sitting it on the cooking grate yeah. I guess the smart way to do things is remove that, and sit the chimney directly on the grate below that. I'm assuming even with the handle on it, it'll fit in there?
I have the 57cm and it worked fine that way.

Fotic

719 posts

129 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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KFC said:
I had been sitting it on the cooking grate yeah. I guess the smart way to do things is remove that, and sit the chimney directly on the grate below that. I'm assuming even with the handle on it, it'll fit in there?
It does yes.

FiF

44,094 posts

251 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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If I want to do a quick direct heat grill then I use charcoal rather than briquettes.

The problem comes if the charcoal is all the nasty small stuff, bit like the charcoal equivalent of nutty slack that old codgers from the days of coal fires will recognise. Basically all small bits and lots of dust.

Cheap charcoal avoid. Not much help but I buy direct from some charcoal burners in the forest. Have a Google you might find someone local.

KFC

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3,687 posts

130 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Cheers, having another go now with the cheap charcoal again.

Going to see what I can do with this and have my 2nd kebab meal of the day laugh :


Mobile Chicane

20,832 posts

212 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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I have a small Weber Smokey Joe, which I use for small portions of food, say for one or two people.

If cooking hot and fast, fill that with charcoal and watch it like a hawk in case of fat flares.

It is possible to pile up a chimney starter's worth of charcoal into one side, so you've a quiet area into which to move food which is flaring.

Craikeybaby

10,413 posts

225 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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I've also been having trouble with direct grilling on my Weber, I'm struggling to get the coals hot enough when I'm using a half full chimney starter. When cooking for 2 would the smaller chimney starter filled to the top be a better bet?

arfur

3,871 posts

214 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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KFC said:
Fotic said:
I think you're using the chimney wrongly!

I light mine in situ and then just up-end it when the top coals are grey. Why are you lighting it elsewhere?
Because I was ending up with burnt bits of newspaper stuck all over the part you cook food on. I need to get a wire brush to rub those off really. I was lighting the chimney sitting in my old brick bbq.

Fotic said:
That's not how I do it. I've always done it how weber suggest: http://www.weber.com/weber-nation/grill-skills/mas...
Yup thats how i've been doing it
My grill is 100cm hence why I put coals on and then firelighters to start the chimney and then tip them on and distribute .. Just habit really, I do the same with the smoker but mix coals in the basket with soaked wood chunks. No mess or bits of paper as suggested above.

FiF

44,094 posts

251 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Aside from the WSM I have 57cm Weber kettle. One touch something or other, the one with the fold up sections on the grill grid.

Only trouble I have ever had in getting a full or half full chimney starter going andget Iit really hot is if either it's all small bits of charcoal or the airflow isn't good. It still gets hot but more slowly.

Half full for a quick direct grill for one to three people. That's half way between the top of the cylinder and top of the conical grid inside the cylinder. So just over half full by volume.

Remove the cooking grill, place chimney on fire grate, make sure ash pan empty and all vents fully open, lid off obviously.

Newspaper is slowest and messiest to get it going. The paraffin cubes are ok but recently tried these fibre cubes also from Weber. Just one and the contents are going well very quickly.

Tip hot coals onto one side so you have a hot section and a cooler section.

More and more finding myself cooking stuff on the side away from the coals with the lid on. Moving it across to get the right finish as required. Obviously if grilling something that needs the rapid searing heat then over the hot area.

Always oil the cooking grid first. No sticking.

KFC

Original Poster:

3,687 posts

130 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Thanks, I'll need to start oiling it as the kebabs were sticking a bit there.

One thing with this cheap charcoal, i nearly filled the chimney to the top and by the time it was ready to go in to cook, a huge amount of the volume of it had burnt away. A lot more than with the weber briquettes.

I done this x2 , I think I could probably have managed it x3 but to do it for 4 people would have required a second lot of those cheap supermarket charcoals I reckon.



Really happy with how this is working - the weber itself is excellent, and I found a brilliant butchers / shop too. http://thenaturalmeatco.com if anyones in the algarve. Those chicken kebabs cost around a euro each. The beef Koftas were 75 cents. Stick some rice and pitta bread on there and you're looking about 3 euros a plate, can't complain!

arfur

3,871 posts

214 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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FiF said:
Aside from the WSM I have 57cm Weber kettle. One touch something or other, the one with the fold up sections on the grill grid.

Only trouble I have ever had in getting a full or half full chimney starter going andget Iit really hot is if either it's all small bits of charcoal or the airflow isn't good. It still gets hot but more slowly.

Half full for a quick direct grill for one to three people. That's half way between the top of the cylinder and top of the conical grid inside the cylinder. So just over half full by volume.

Remove the cooking grill, place chimney on fire grate, make sure ash pan empty and all vents fully open, lid off obviously.

Newspaper is slowest and messiest to get it going. The paraffin cubes are ok but recently tried these fibre cubes also from Weber. Just one and the contents are going well very quickly.

Tip hot coals onto one side so you have a hot section and a cooler section.

More and more finding myself cooking stuff on the side away from the coals with the lid on. Moving it across to get the right finish as required. Obviously if grilling something that needs the rapid searing heat then over the hot area.

Always oil the cooking grid first. No sticking.
Sounds like you need a water smoker ... indirect cooking smile Long and low goodness

FiF

44,094 posts

251 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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arfur said:
FiF said:
Aside from the WSM I have 57cm Weber kettle. One touch something or other, the one with the fold up sections on the grill grid.

Only trouble I have ever had in getting a full or half full chimney starter going andget Iit really hot is if either it's all small bits of charcoal or the airflow isn't good. It still gets hot but more slowly.

Half full for a quick direct grill for one to three people. That's half way between the top of the cylinder and top of the conical grid inside the cylinder. So just over half full by volume.

Remove the cooking grill, place chimney on fire grate, make sure ash pan empty and all vents fully open, lid off obviously.

Newspaper is slowest and messiest to get it going. The paraffin cubes are ok but recently tried these fibre cubes also from Weber. Just one and the contents are going well very quickly.

Tip hot coals onto one side so you have a hot section and a cooler section.

More and more finding myself cooking stuff on the side away from the coals with the lid on. Moving it across to get the right finish as required. Obviously if grilling something that needs the rapid searing heat then over the hot area.

Always oil the cooking grid first. No sticking.
Sounds like you need a water smoker ... indirect cooking smile Long and low goodness
Dare I say read the first 4 words again although didn't make it clear I admit.

Have one of the big smokey mountains in addition to the kettle.

Next accessory will be the rotisserie attachment I think.

KFC

Original Poster:

3,687 posts

130 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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I've ordered the pizza stone thing from Weber, waiting on that arriving next week. I just went back to that meat shop, so easy to spend money in there laugh 100 euros this cost, and that doesn't even include the chicken kebabs which is the main reason I went there. They were sold out. I've ordered 36 of them to collect tomorrow though. Might go for my 3rd kebab meal of the day and do some of those lamb kofta's with couscous.


calibrax

4,788 posts

211 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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FiF said:
Newspaper is slowest and messiest to get it going. The paraffin cubes are ok but recently tried these fibre cubes also from Weber. Just one and the contents are going well very quickly.
I wouldn't waste money on cubes. The whole point of the chimney starter is to avoid problems lighting the charcoal/briquettes. I always scrunch up a couple of sheets of kitchen roll and light that. Does the trick nicely!

KFC

Original Poster:

3,687 posts

130 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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calibrax said:
I wouldn't waste money on cubes. The whole point of the chimney starter is to avoid problems lighting the charcoal/briquettes. I always scrunch up a couple of sheets of kitchen roll and light that. Does the trick nicely!
This morning I took all the menu's and flyers that people have put under my windscreen wiper, and used them to start it up. Normally I just bin them immediately but I don't buy newspapers at all so i've been saving them for bbq lighters. If kitchen roll works okay I'll just use that from now on though.

Bit of a Unit

6,716 posts

197 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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If it's a quick meal I don't waste the weber briquettes or use the chimney.

Instant lighting bag of supermarket charcoal on a piece of perforated foil. Lots and lots of holes in the foil. Place it at the back of the BBQ or to one side so you can still indirect cook if necessary.