Philips Perfect draft machine

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Hoonigan

2,138 posts

234 months

Thursday 15th October 2015
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The leffe is soooo tempting, won't fit my setup though ??, I tend to home brew lots of very hoppy APA's, sooo cheap too...



(Yes the beers not home brewed but the only pic I have)

Edited by Hoonigan on Thursday 15th October 21:48

Markky123

7 posts

101 months

Thursday 15th October 2015
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Nice set up)it's defo on my bucket list to brew my own from scratch one day maybe)

Markky123

7 posts

101 months

Friday 16th October 2015
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Markky123

7 posts

101 months

Friday 16th October 2015
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Delivered today eBay international seller my-food-online 6 days to deliver 72 pounds for 3 kegs including postage and keg deposit from germany and I think it works out cheaper to order 4 at a time.

nmealey

10 posts

116 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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Hi folks, I've started a Facebook page to try and help us all source reasonable kegs here in the UK and abroad. It's on facebook and called perfect draft keg tips. Please feel free to join, it's a brand new page so will take a few days to get my head around.

Cheers,

Neil

EJH

932 posts

208 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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Beerhawk have started selling Perfect Draft online:

https://www.beerhawk.co.uk/search/go?af=pagetype%3...

I think these prices are the price you pay for keg and beer (ie no deposit) but I might be mistaken.

Mutley

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3,178 posts

258 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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nmealey said:
Hi folks, I've started a Facebook page to try and help us all source reasonable kegs here in the UK and abroad. It's on facebook and called perfect draft keg tips. Please feel free to join, it's a brand new page so will take a few days to get my head around.

Cheers,

Neil
Cool, will be along shortly.

ETA: Might b having a brain fade moment, can you drop a link here? thanks

Edited by Mutley on Wednesday 28th September 13:44

Mutley

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3,178 posts

258 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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EJH said:
Beerhawk have started selling Perfect Draft online:

https://www.beerhawk.co.uk/search/go?af=pagetype%3...

I think these prices are the price you pay for keg and beer (ie no deposit) but I might be mistaken.
EEK! I generally pay €15-25 per keg, plus a €5 deposit, £30 is almost twice the cost. But if Leffe, at least no ferry crossing, shame its a small selection

EJH

932 posts

208 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Mutley said:
EEK! I generally pay €15-25 per keg, plus a €5 deposit, £30 is almost twice the cost. But if Leffe, at least no ferry crossing, shame its a small selection
I think the £25 includes the deposit…but it’s still €18 (plus €5 deposit) versus £25. I expect much of the difference is supply / demand and duty and wouldn’t be surprised if the margin was worse for sales made in the UK when these factors are accounted for.

I have always found it quite handy that I have to go to France to get the kegs as Domestic Compliance is not overly keen on part of the kitchen counter being taken up with the machine and the kegs, well, don’t last long once opened.

I think the longest one has lasted was 4 days because I was out a bit so it’s probably for the best I can’t find them too often! I used to live in Jersey where they were freely available and I can confirm that Leffe on Monday is not a good thing for the Tuesday…

Mutley

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3,178 posts

258 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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at the end of the day, the extra cost saves on the crossing etc. And if it wanted t get some Leffe for a bbq/event. That works. Supply and demand, most in the UK know of LEffe/Becks etc, so there is a supply. But it's hard to get in Jupiler (my preference) or any of the other "unknown" beers .

I definately won't be shunning the site, but I have 10 empty kegs in the garage to get refilled in Belgium...

EJH

932 posts

208 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Mutley said:
at the end of the day, the extra cost saves on the crossing etc. And if it wanted t get some Leffe for a bbq/event. That works. Supply and demand, most in the UK know of LEffe/Becks etc, so there is a supply. But it's hard to get in Jupiler (my preference) or any of the other "unknown" beers .

I definately won't be shunning the site, but I have 10 empty kegs in the garage to get refilled in Belgium...
I have 6 in the garage.

I like Leffe (more than it likes me...) and the occasional Hoegaarden but Jupiler is my choice to keep in it most of the time.

Might need a weekend away in Le Touquet soon!

bigandclever

13,750 posts

237 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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For those who are interested, there's just been a 25% price drop on Amazon , £150 delivered from Beerhawk. But Beerhawk haven't changed the price on their own website (yet).

RC1807

12,483 posts

167 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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bigandclever said:
For those who are interested, there's just been a 25% price drop on Amazon , £150 delivered from Beerhawk. But Beerhawk haven't changed the price on their own website (yet).
1 left in stock!

For Perfect Draft owners, I recommend Diekirch beer from Luxembourg, if you can get it. It's from the town of the same name.

bagpipesolo

1 posts

89 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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Just bought a perfect draft machine. I've been going to Belgium a lot recently and have been really enjoying Jupiler. Beerhawk is the obvious choice for UK delivery but it doesn't stock Jupiler. After a long search for European vendors that'll ship to the UK I found this:

http://www.biertap.com/

I just bought 3 kegs of Jupiler for €64 (including delivery). They were €16 each with an additional €16 postage charge per 3 kegs ordered! Everything was in dutch but I managed to navigate through the site pretty easily. Bargain! (..?)

Fortunately I don't need these beers until around christmas time so there's plenty of time to find out how long it takes them to deliver it!

EJH

932 posts

208 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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First order was made by Mrs EJH with Beerhawk; apparently I'm grouchy without draft beer in the home to maintain my "delicate," physique...

Anyway, order made on Friday and delivered on Monday. £25 a keg with £5 returned on each one (the courier will, it seems, pick these up when they deliver; I'll test this with the next order).

Yes, it's more than a trip to France (although I always ignore the cost of the tunnel in the man-maths) but it works well and they were lovely to deal with. Spectacularly long dates on the kegs too (on hols at the moment but think it was ~7 months instead of the usual 2-4 that I have seen when shopping for them elsewhere).

justin220

5,331 posts

203 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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I'm very close to ordering one, especially with the deals that are on just now. I'm just not sure how much I'd actually use it!

How long does the beer keep once opened?

How long do the kegs keep roughly? (Unopened)

EJH

932 posts

208 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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justin220 said:
I'm very close to ordering one, especially with the deals that are on just now. I'm just not sure how much I'd actually use it!
How long does the beer keep once opened?
How long do the kegs keep roughly? (Unopened)
They're meant to last up to 30 days once opened. I think the longest I have seen one last is 6 days when I went away for the weekend in the middle; you also find friends visit more with these machines!

I have a very cheerful rut with mine (when I have beer in) which involves a frozen 1/2 pint chalice in the back garden when I'm back from work and then another frozen 1/2 pint chalice chaser. There's something wonderful about smaller glasses of beer that are very, very cold.

The barrels have a best-before date printed on the side; I think my latest batch are bb June but I have consumed previous batches at 3-4 months beyond bb dates and they have still be absolutely fine.

Edited by EJH on Wednesday 9th November 11:10

Mutley

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3,178 posts

258 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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EJH said:
justin220 said:
I'm very close to ordering one, especially with the deals that are on just now. I'm just not sure how much I'd actually use it!
How long does the beer keep once opened?
How long do the kegs keep roughly? (Unopened)
They're meant to last up to 30 days once opened. I think the longest I have seen one last is 6 days when I went away for the weekend in the middle; you also find friends visit more with these machines!

I have a very cheerful rut with mine (when I have beer in) which involves a frozen 1/2 pint chalice in the back garden when I'm back from work and then another frozen 1/2 pint chalice chaser. There's something wonderful about smaller glasses of beer that are very, very cold.

The barrels have a best-before date printed on the side; I think my latest batch are bb June but I have consumed previous batches at 3-4 months beyond bb dates and they have still be absolutely fine.

Edited by EJH on Wednesday 9th November 11:10
Mine seem to evaporate very quickly, but generally they last around 2 weeks once opened.

The idea of half pint glasses works for me too, (frozen even more so, great idea!)

justin220

5,331 posts

203 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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Mutley said:
EJH said:
justin220 said:
I'm very close to ordering one, especially with the deals that are on just now. I'm just not sure how much I'd actually use it!
How long does the beer keep once opened?
How long do the kegs keep roughly? (Unopened)
They're meant to last up to 30 days once opened. I think the longest I have seen one last is 6 days when I went away for the weekend in the middle; you also find friends visit more with these machines!

I have a very cheerful rut with mine (when I have beer in) which involves a frozen 1/2 pint chalice in the back garden when I'm back from work and then another frozen 1/2 pint chalice chaser. There's something wonderful about smaller glasses of beer that are very, very cold.

The barrels have a best-before date printed on the side; I think my latest batch are bb June but I have consumed previous batches at 3-4 months beyond bb dates and they have still be absolutely fine.

Edited by EJH on Wednesday 9th November 11:10
Mine seem to evaporate very quickly, but generally they last around 2 weeks once opened.

The idea of half pint glasses works for me too, (frozen even more so, great idea!)
Excellent thanks!

My wife has kindly ordered me one for my birthday! Leffe blonde coming with it.

Anyone tried the leffe Ruby?

EJH

932 posts

208 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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justin220 said:
Excellent thanks!

My wife has kindly ordered me one for my birthday! Leffe blonde coming with it.

Anyone tried the leffe Ruby?
I haven't...but I have tried the Rituel and whilst I love normal Leffe, it's really not to my taste!