Takeaways - am I being fussy?

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anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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ChemicalChaos said:
Thing is, I bet a lot of the indys do get a 4/5.. but why dont they proudly display it somewhere prominent? Not doing so makes me think they have something to hide, and so walk on past
In Wales it's a legal requirement for all places serving food to display the rating prominently, which makes life easier.

In reality, anything 3 or above is fine.

PoleDriver

28,636 posts

194 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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I've eaten in some pretty rough places in the UK (kebab houses/vans, chicken shops etc.) and around the world (street food) and have never even had a bad case of the squits!
The only time I've ever had a real problem was at a 'gourmet' pub/restaurant. I ordered steak and eggs and within 30 minutes was erupting violently from both ends! Apparently the restaurant had stored the meat wrongly for too long!

I believe that my resilience to slightly dodgy food has come from exposure to it! By eating only 'safe' food at all times your body's defence systems cannot build up a resistance against bacterial intrusions!

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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PoleDriver said:
I've eaten in some pretty rough places in the UK (kebab houses/vans, chicken shops etc.) and around the world (street food) and have never even had a bad case of the squits!
The only time I've ever had a real problem was at a 'gourmet' pub/restaurant. I ordered steak and eggs and within 30 minutes was erupting violently from both ends! Apparently the restaurant had stored the meat wrongly for too long!

I believe that my resilience to slightly dodgy food has come from exposure to it! By eating only 'safe' food at all times your body's defence systems cannot build up a resistance against bacterial intrusions!
There's probably a lot in that; years of crawling into dodgy takeaways in camden and other paces at god knows what time in the morning on a regular basis and never had squits, lived a more sensible/mature/healthy existence with the OH for a few years and my stomachs probably more sensitive.

Although a food nutritionist (proper scientist BTW) told me alcohol in sufficient quantities will nullify a lot of bacteria, so if you're at a BBQ and not so sure about the chicken just get rat arsedbiggrin Apparently there are cases where everyone at a BBQ got food poisoning except the pissheads.

daytona365

1,773 posts

164 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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The star system is just yet more council bks to keep themselves in work....If the premises really presented a health risk they'd be shut down overnight, and rightly so.

calibrax

4,788 posts

211 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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When I was a student many years ago I had a number of seasonal jobs in some pretty high end restaurants in the Winchester area, and without exception the kitchens were a disgrace - I was shocked at how filthy they were and the lack of basic hygiene.

And I'm not the kind of person who obsesses over these things, in fact I think the recent boom in antibacterial products for around the house is a very bad thing, because it's essential that children in particular should be exposed to bacteria so their immune systems can build up - being raised in a sterile environment will just make them prone to illness and disease in later life.

Anyway, my point is that we have no idea what a place is like behind the scenes, and even the most respected places can be just a facade. And any inspections, like the MOT, only assess on that particular day, they are not a great indicator of how things might be several weeks/months later...

daytona365

1,773 posts

164 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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I had a friend once who worked in one of the most prestigious hotels in London's Park Lane...The underpaid kitchen staff often made soup in 100 litre vats for huge banquets, many were drunk on free customers unfinished booze.............Oh, and the toilets were miles away, if you get my meaning !!

RammyMP

6,768 posts

153 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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Ive used the same local pizza place for a while, had a bit of a rough one last night and had bad guts since. Just checked their rating now, don't think I'll have another for a while:

http://www.scoresonthedoors.org.uk/business/stop-i...

JustinF

6,795 posts

203 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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Local Michelin starred place has 3 out of 5, it's a listed building and there is no way to provide the separated handwash facility required plus a few other building related foibles, hygeine is absolutely spot on loss of stars on technicalities.
I'd eat there but probably not the 4 of 5 chinese around the corner.
Box ticking exercise imo.

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

179 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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Usually if I'm getting a takeaway I've had a fair bit to drink.

So I'm not bothered. And if I feel bad the next day, it's more likely to be the drink than the food.

guindilias

5,245 posts

120 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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An Indian eat in/takeaway a few miles from me is a really pricey, nicely done up place - they have a branch in my town as well. I won't name it, but if you google "Newtownards" and that famous river that flows through India, full of dead bodies - you will find the place.
In fact, since it is a public document - https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/175313/resp...

The owner had a load of dilapidated 2up/2down terraced houses nearby, and was storing his rice, potatoes etc there - was found to be infested with rats, mice, and other nasties.

But, the restaurant is still very popular, and make some of the best Indians I have had, whether sitting in or takeaway. Never had a hint of food poisoning from it - and still use the local one regularly.

Always polite, always cater to special needs people, and the delivery service is madly busy. I'll keep eating there!


bigandclever

13,782 posts

238 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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ChemicalChaos said:
Am I being unreasonable here?
I think you're being fussy too. The best restaurants in the world can give you the squits (yeah Heston, I'm looking at you), MaccyD burgers aren't exactly 100% fillet steak are they, and the best diamond-encrusted certificate from 12 months ago won't stop the new lad from picking his arse while he's chopping your tofu will it, so loosen up a little.

rufusgti

2,530 posts

192 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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My favourite restaurant in Cardiff was recently given a 0 rating and told it would be shut down if things didn't change. I've had some fantastic meals there and they do lovely take away pizzas., great coffee and probably the best tiramisu I've ever had.
It doesn't really bother me if I'm honest. I'll still go there. I know a good meal when I see it. I don't really care where he stores his meats or if he mops the floor. A friends of ours will no longer go and I guess that's fair enough.

Driver101

14,376 posts

121 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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How to do they check the places? Is it like an MOT where you are only as good as the test on the day?

Even if the take away operates with good standards, that might not be the case for their suppliers.

Having been in a few major food suppliers factories, I was shocked at how low their standards were.

miniman

24,944 posts

262 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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One of my favourite lunchtime places dropped from 4 to 1. Still tasted the same.

BoRED S2upid

19,691 posts

240 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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Driver101 said:
How to do they check the places? Is it like an MOT where you are only as good as the test on the day?

Even if the take away operates with good standards, that might not be the case for their suppliers.

Having been in a few major food suppliers factories, I was shocked at how low their standards were.
Box ticking so yes like an MOT. Chef could change the week after and things go to st.

BoRED S2upid

19,691 posts

240 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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Driver101 said:
How to do they check the places? Is it like an MOT where you are only as good as the test on the day?

Even if the take away operates with good standards, that might not be the case for their suppliers.

Having been in a few major food suppliers factories, I was shocked at how low their standards were.
Box ticking so yes like an MOT. Chef could change the week after and things go to st.

mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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BoRED S2upid said:
Driver101 said:
How to do they check the places? Is it like an MOT where you are only as good as the test on the day?

Even if the take away operates with good standards, that might not be the case for their suppliers.

Having been in a few major food suppliers factories, I was shocked at how low their standards were.
Box ticking so yes like an MOT. Chef could change the week after and things go to st.
hence the reason 'confidence in management' is one of the factors in the assessment

breamster

1,014 posts

180 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Nice takeaway on Friday night - rating of 0.

Oops - still alive.

slyelessar

359 posts

108 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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I usually just look to see if it looks dingy or not from the outside. I don't really touch cheapo chicken shops, but I do like my Shish kebab. I know all the decent ones in the nearby local towns back home, but when I am staying somewhere I try and make a judgement on the outside and the food I see in the place.

The_Doc

4,885 posts

220 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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The Dirty Takeaway Pictures thread has 500 pages.

Hardly any of the posters on there are now dead.

the vast majority of takeaway food is safe,

standard rule: if the place is empty, don't buy, if you have to queuefor the filth, then fill your boots