Dirty Takeaway Pictures Volume 3

Dirty Takeaway Pictures Volume 3

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Burwood

18,709 posts

245 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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housen said:
Burwood said:
RammyMP said:
stewies_minion said:


The Bleeker black. Spitalfields market.

£10 well spent. It was gorgeous.
That would give me the sts
well, there is a genuine health hazard in eating burgers that rare. Different if made in your own kitchen, but someones eases. No thanks.
how is this any diff to a steak tartar in terms of danger ?
It's an odds game. Not one I would play if I wasn't as sure as possible the venue was 'clean'. Minced meat is basically 3D so bacteria can get onto it which is then encased within the patty (uncooked). If you got E Coli or Listeria you would be in big trouble. Never let a child eat burgers like this. Steak Tar tar is the same I suppose. Each to there own.

Compare the above to a bacteria covered steak. The searing on the outside kills the bacteria. There is no bacteria inside the steak as it can not be contaminated (as only the outside surface is exposed).

madcowman

217 posts

117 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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PLaces that do Steak Tartare in the UK have to really jump through hoops to get it signed off by health inspectors ( seperate prep areas etc. )

BrabusMog

20,083 posts

185 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Burwood said:
housen said:
Burwood said:
RammyMP said:
stewies_minion said:


The Bleeker black. Spitalfields market.

£10 well spent. It was gorgeous.
That would give me the sts
well, there is a genuine health hazard in eating burgers that rare. Different if made in your own kitchen, but someones eases. No thanks.
how is this any diff to a steak tartar in terms of danger ?
It's an odds game. Not one I would play if I wasn't as sure as possible the venue was 'clean'. Minced meat is basically 3D so bacteria can get onto it which is then encased within the patty (uncooked). If you got E Coli or Listeria you would be in big trouble. Never let a child eat burgers like this. Steak Tar tar is the same I suppose. Each to there own.

Compare the above to a bacteria covered steak. The searing on the outside kills the bacteria. There is no bacteria inside the steak as it can not be contaminated (as only the outside surface is exposed).
Yeah I'd be amazed if that's up to temperature and the amount of restauarants/takeouts having E-Coli found in minced meat before it's cooked is a lot higher than you'd think!

housen

2,366 posts

191 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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BrabusMog said:
Burwood said:
housen said:
Burwood said:
RammyMP said:
stewies_minion said:


The Bleeker black. Spitalfields market.

£10 well spent. It was gorgeous.
That would give me the sts
well, there is a genuine health hazard in eating burgers that rare. Different if made in your own kitchen, but someones eases. No thanks.
how is this any diff to a steak tartar in terms of danger ?
It's an odds game. Not one I would play if I wasn't as sure as possible the venue was 'clean'. Minced meat is basically 3D so bacteria can get onto it which is then encased within the patty (uncooked). If you got E Coli or Listeria you would be in big trouble. Never let a child eat burgers like this. Steak Tar tar is the same I suppose. Each to there own.

Compare the above to a bacteria covered steak. The searing on the outside kills the bacteria. There is no bacteria inside the steak as it can not be contaminated (as only the outside surface is exposed).
Yeah I'd be amazed if that's up to temperature and the amount of restauarants/takeouts having E-Coli found in minced meat before it's cooked is a lot higher than you'd think!
so the irony of that burger pic is that in my eyes it didn't look like it met the dirty takeaway criteria as it looked like a very boutiquey burger

but

if it s full of e coli, then its the dirtiest take away ever !!!!!!

stewies_minion

1,165 posts

186 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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If it helps to resolve the query, I was fine after the burger above. They were selling them to a queue 4 deep so I'm sure it's a tried and tested cooking / prep / hygiene combo.

I must stress - it was handsome. The black pudding was of exceptional quality too.

I have another again in a heartbeat.

ambuletz

10,690 posts

180 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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i'm sure if it were full of e coli and making people sick they probably wouldn't be one of the best (top 3) burger places in london..

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

107 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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That is very undercooked for a burger, I'd be wary of eating a burger cooked like that from any restaurant no matter how gourmet it is.

The problem with rare burgers is that any bacteria on the surface of the meat is even distributed through the mince as it's processed. If you don't bring it up to a safe temp all the way through you're just giving the bacteria in the middle a nice warm breeding ground.

Obviously it's more of a problem with mass produced burgers made on an industrial site than if a kitchen is getting it's own meat and making the burgers themselves but it's still a risk with something that's blatantly raw in the middle.

C70R

17,596 posts

103 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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ambuletz said:
i'm sure if it were full of e coli and making people sick they probably wouldn't be one of the best (top 3) burger places in london..
But that wouldn't give people anything to moan/scaremonger about, right? Haha!

I could name half a dozen places that cook burgers like this by default in London, and all are consistently rated among the best. If you want it medium, then ask for it.
Whereas, if I wanted something cooked all the way through, I'd go to GBK or Byron.

Truth is, you're more likely to catch e.coli from a petting zoo...

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

107 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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I like rare meat, that's not rare it's raw. I don't see the appeal of that in a burger. It won't have the right texture and unless you eat it the second it gets off the grill it'll be cold.

Perhaps a case of people being told it's right and not disagreeing because they don't want to look stupid, sounds like quite a London thing to do wink.

C70R

17,596 posts

103 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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The beauty of living in London, is that we have the freedom of choice in things like this. If you don't want it like this, then ask for it cooked medium. I gather Scottish McDonalds don't tend to ask... smile

Fabric

3,818 posts

191 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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C70R said:
The beauty of living in London, is that we have the freedom of choice in things like this.
rofl

JKRolling

537 posts

101 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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first take away in a while. Prawn and beef curry with egg fried rice and sweet and sour pork with noodles


Burwood

18,709 posts

245 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Fabric said:
C70R said:
The beauty of living in London, is that we have the freedom of choice in things like this.
rofl
What he means is the diversity and sheer number of vendors. I know it could be construed differently smile

stewies_minion

1,165 posts

186 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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JKRolling said:
first take away in a while. Prawn and beef curry with egg fried rice and sweet and sour pork with noodles

I'm famished tonight (diet)

I could horse that. Hope you enjoyed it.

JKRolling

537 posts

101 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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stewies_minion said:
JKRolling said:
first take away in a while. Prawn and beef curry with egg fried rice and sweet and sour pork with noodles

I'm famished tonight (diet)

I could horse that. Hope you enjoyed it.
It was really nice. I've just realised that the prawn crackers look like an ex down below. She was crackers too.

BrabusMog

20,083 posts

185 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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JKRolling said:
It was really nice. I've just realised that the prawn crackers look like an ex down below. She was crackers too.
laugh Been on the beer tonight?

JKRolling

537 posts

101 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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BrabusMog said:
JKRolling said:
It was really nice. I've just realised that the prawn crackers look like an ex down below. She was crackers too.
laugh Been on the beer tonight?
Hahaha maybe I've had a couple! I've got tomorrow off work though and it does look like my ex!!

cheddar

4,637 posts

173 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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JKRolling said:
I've just realised that the prawn crackers look like an ex down below.
Flabia?

JKRolling

537 posts

101 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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cheddar said:
JKRolling said:
I've just realised that the prawn crackers look like an ex down below.
Flabia?
You've met her then?

Burwood

18,709 posts

245 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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Fabric said:
C70R said:
The beauty of living in London, is that we have the freedom of choice in things like this.
rofl
What he means is the diversity and sheer number of vendors. I know it could be construed differently smile
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