Bourbon Biscuits
Discussion
Quhet said:
My dad was wielding a big multi pack of biscuits when I saw him today, bourbons were present and correct.
Not sure where they were from though as they were the shape of custard creams rather than the more common rectangular variety
Dear god...won't somebody think of the children? Square Bourbon's? Not sure where they were from though as they were the shape of custard creams rather than the more common rectangular variety
It'll be lemon Jaffa Cakes next, and then where will we be? Hell, that's where.
RizzoTheRat said:
All custard creams in the UK except M&S ones come off the same production line at McVities in Carlisle. I know they also make bourbons there but I'm not sure if it's as big a proportion of the market. That factory was under 5 feet of water a few weeks ago...
They might make the majority.I dont know.but Fox's in uttoxeter make them.they have two !Ines running .they make bourbons there too.TwigtheWonderkid said:
Is there some kind of international shortage? Has some glass been found in them at the factory and they've all been withdrawn.
Impossible to buy round our way, own brands or proper ones, Sainsbury, Tesco, Co op, Iceland, all sold out. This is West London, not the Scottish Islands! Popped into Tesco Pimlico yesterday as I was passing, sold out!
Ffs! My oldest lad (19) isn't a big eater, never has been, very slim, and I worry about him. But he does like to dunk a few bourbons in his tea, daily. It's his main source of calories I reckon! It's a nightmare not being able to get any. Been about a fortnight now without success.
You might be in West London, but the biscuit crisis has also hit the Scottish Highlands! Utter disaster.Impossible to buy round our way, own brands or proper ones, Sainsbury, Tesco, Co op, Iceland, all sold out. This is West London, not the Scottish Islands! Popped into Tesco Pimlico yesterday as I was passing, sold out!
Ffs! My oldest lad (19) isn't a big eater, never has been, very slim, and I worry about him. But he does like to dunk a few bourbons in his tea, daily. It's his main source of calories I reckon! It's a nightmare not being able to get any. Been about a fortnight now without success.
RizzoTheRat said:
All custard creams in the UK except M&S ones come off the same production line at McVities in Carlisle. I know they also make bourbons there but I'm not sure if it's as big a proportion of the market. That factory was under 5 feet of water a few weeks ago...
Are you sure about that?They all taste different , the Co-op ones used to taste especially different but i have not tried them for years
RizzoTheRat said:
dazco said:
Are you sure about that?
They all taste different , the Co-op ones used to taste especially different but i have not tried them for years
Different customers have slightly different recipes but contract the manufacturing to mcvities apparently. They all taste different , the Co-op ones used to taste especially different but i have not tried them for years
Why would only one person be making all of one type of biscuit, and then modifying the recipe every time?
Other manufacturers (I assume) make other cream biscuits, is it outwith their remit to do the mighty custard cream? Have the mafia got involved?
If you think about it, there is not one sensible reason why this would be true, and then are you suggesting M&S have a manufacturing plant just for their custard creams? It defies logic.
If a biscuit manufacturer has a biscuit making plant that can make bourbon creams, lemon puffs, nice creams, chocolate creams, strawberry creams , coconut creams , and many more, then why would the custard cream be out of their grasp?
Please think about it, I think someone has been pulling your leg.
dazco said:
Have you thought about this with any degree of scrutiny?
Why would only one person be making all of one type of biscuit, and then modifying the recipe every time?
Other manufacturers (I assume) make other cream biscuits, is it outwith their remit to do the mighty custard cream? Have the mafia got involved?
If you think about it, there is not one sensible reason why this would be true, and then are you suggesting M&S have a manufacturing plant just for their custard creams? It defies logic.
If a biscuit manufacturer has a biscuit making plant that can make bourbon creams, lemon puffs, nice creams, chocolate creams, strawberry creams , coconut creams , and many more, then why would the custard cream be out of their grasp?
Please think about it, I think someone has been pulling your leg.
I would assume many other retailers use McVities to make their custard crèmes (and other biscuits) for the same reason that M&S don't make their own (I never suggested they did) and will contract it out to another manufacturer, and the same reason that Tesco will get their petrol from a big refining company but with their own specification of additives. Clearly there are considerably more biscuit brands than there are manufacturing plants, and as brands place contracts the market share between different plants will vary. According to a mate who works at McVities they make pretty much all the custard creams. As it's a batch process then it's very easy to make different mixes for different batches, just as they feed different wrappers in at the other end, so I see no reason why it shouldn't be true.Why would only one person be making all of one type of biscuit, and then modifying the recipe every time?
Other manufacturers (I assume) make other cream biscuits, is it outwith their remit to do the mighty custard cream? Have the mafia got involved?
If you think about it, there is not one sensible reason why this would be true, and then are you suggesting M&S have a manufacturing plant just for their custard creams? It defies logic.
If a biscuit manufacturer has a biscuit making plant that can make bourbon creams, lemon puffs, nice creams, chocolate creams, strawberry creams , coconut creams , and many more, then why would the custard cream be out of their grasp?
Please think about it, I think someone has been pulling your leg.
RizzoTheRat said:
dazco said:
Have you thought about this with any degree of scrutiny?
Why would only one person be making all of one type of biscuit, and then modifying the recipe every time?
Other manufacturers (I assume) make other cream biscuits, is it outwith their remit to do the mighty custard cream? Have the mafia got involved?
If you think about it, there is not one sensible reason why this would be true, and then are you suggesting M&S have a manufacturing plant just for their custard creams? It defies logic.
If a biscuit manufacturer has a biscuit making plant that can make bourbon creams, lemon puffs, nice creams, chocolate creams, strawberry creams , coconut creams , and many more, then why would the custard cream be out of their grasp?
Please think about it, I think someone has been pulling your leg.
I would assume many other retailers use McVities to make their custard crèmes (and other biscuits) for the same reason that M&S don't make their own (I never suggested they did) and will contract it out to another manufacturer, and the same reason that Tesco will get their petrol from a big refining company but with their own specification of additives. Clearly there are considerably more biscuit brands than there are manufacturing plants, and as brands place contracts the market share between different plants will vary. According to a mate who works at McVities they make pretty much all the custard creams. As it's a batch process then it's very easy to make different mixes for different batches, just as they feed different wrappers in at the other end, so I see no reason why it shouldn't be true.Why would only one person be making all of one type of biscuit, and then modifying the recipe every time?
Other manufacturers (I assume) make other cream biscuits, is it outwith their remit to do the mighty custard cream? Have the mafia got involved?
If you think about it, there is not one sensible reason why this would be true, and then are you suggesting M&S have a manufacturing plant just for their custard creams? It defies logic.
If a biscuit manufacturer has a biscuit making plant that can make bourbon creams, lemon puffs, nice creams, chocolate creams, strawberry creams , coconut creams , and many more, then why would the custard cream be out of their grasp?
Please think about it, I think someone has been pulling your leg.
I am confused by your reasoning.
You declare that it is very easy to make different batches of biscuits but then still carry on insisting that McVities make all the UK's custard creams, except M&S of course.
If it is so easy to change a batch why do other biscuit manufacturers not simply change one of their batches to custard creams? What is so magical about the custard cream that makes manufacturers of other cream filled biscuits shy away in terror.
Please just think about it for a moment, it cannot possibly be true.
Unless McV's make ALL the biscuits for ALL the brands. Except M&S, of course.
Biscuit shortage is due to flooding, apparently.
http://www.standard.co.uk/business/biscuit-shortag...
http://www.standard.co.uk/business/biscuit-shortag...
dazco said:
You said that all custard creams except M&S come of the one production line , therefore M&S MUST have their own production line.
I am confused by your reasoning.
That's your reasoning not mine, why would M&S make their own just because they don't get the Carlisle plant to do it?I am confused by your reasoning.
dazco said:
You declare that it is very easy to make different batches of biscuits but then still carry on insisting that McVities make all the UK's custard creams, except M&S of course.
Hardly insisting, just stating I've been told that and so far have seen no reason why it couldn't be true.dazco said:
If it is so easy to change a batch why do other biscuit manufacturers not simply change one of their batches to custard creams?
Clearly they do, if the above is true then someone must be making them for M&Sdazco said:
What is so magical about the custard cream that makes manufacturers of other cream filled biscuits shy away in terror.
Why would anyone be terrified of a custard cream? have you had a bad experience with one?
dazco said:
Please just think about it for a moment, it cannot possibly be true.
I have, I still see no reason why it couldn't be truedazco said:
Unless McV's make ALL the biscuits for ALL the brands. Except M&S, of course.
I'm well and truly confused by your reasoning now.Lets try and simplify this a bit. A brand (be it Tesco, Co-Op, M&S, whatever) decides it wants to sell it's own brand biscuit. Clearly they're not going to make their own biscuits so they'll look at who they can contract that out to. I'm guessing there aren't that many biscuit manufacturing plants in the UK (but there are clearly at least 2 as Carlisle and Utoxeter have already been mentioned on this thread), so they'll get quotes from the manufactures to supply them with the product. Given the huge variety of biscuits in existence why are you convinced that it is impossible for one plant to have the majority of contracts for one type of biscuit?
Edited by RizzoTheRat on Wednesday 3rd February 14:29
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