Miller and Carter Steakhouse
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swerni said:
5678 said:
Cotty said:
rsbmw said:
The one in Wilmslow where I work is utter s
t. Cau on the other hand (in Wilmsloe) I rate above the Hawksmoor and Gaucho in Manchester
I really want to try Hawksmoor, I work reasonably close but a colleague went and didn't rate the steaks well. They loved the mac a cheese and one the puddings. Still want to give it a go. t. Cau on the other hand (in Wilmsloe) I rate above the Hawksmoor and Gaucho in ManchesterGoodman is better than Hawksmoor
Hawksmoor has always been excellent and wifey likes the cocktails!
Burwood said:
krunchkin said:
M&C prices aren't at Ye Old Beefeater and Brewers Fayre levels. They're certainly nudging the smarter London places in ripoff pricing for meat
A ripoff you say. I'm not saying it's cheap but reasonable IMO. Take Goodmans CW. Do you have any idea what their costs are. Huge. Try 30k a month in non staff overheads. The fit out must be 1.5m. The staff will be well paid because they are excellent. krunchkin said:
Burwood said:
krunchkin said:
M&C prices aren't at Ye Old Beefeater and Brewers Fayre levels. They're certainly nudging the smarter London places in ripoff pricing for meat
A ripoff you say. I'm not saying it's cheap but reasonable IMO. Take Goodmans CW. Do you have any idea what their costs are. Huge. Try 30k a month in non staff overheads. The fit out must be 1.5m. The staff will be well paid because they are excellent. and another thing i remember about Peter Luger. They do not accept credit cards of any kind-cash only for foreigners. we were sent to an ATM FFS. Id never go back. What kind of restaurant, ones that charge premium rates where the Bill could be significant, only takes US debit cards and cash.
craigjm said:
Hawksmoor - 400g ribeye £31.00 fries 4.25 sauce 3.00 average side 4.50 = £42.75
Goodmans = 400g ribeye £34.00 sauce inc fries 5.00 average side 5.00 = £44.00
MASH = 400g ribeye £37.00 sauce 2.50 fries 4.50 average side 4.50 = £48.50
Smith and Wollensky = 400g ribeye £42.00 fries 4.00 sauce 4.00 average side 5.00 =£45.00
Gauch = 400g ribeye £31.00 sauce £3.00 fries £5.00 average side £5.00 = £44.00
And this is why I don't go out to steakhouses in the UK. For those steak prices I can buy a 2kg rib roast, cut it into 5 steaks, and cook them exactly to my tastes. Why spend £30+ on a mediocre steak when I can have 5 steaks done to perfection at home for the same cost?Goodmans = 400g ribeye £34.00 sauce inc fries 5.00 average side 5.00 = £44.00
MASH = 400g ribeye £37.00 sauce 2.50 fries 4.50 average side 4.50 = £48.50
Smith and Wollensky = 400g ribeye £42.00 fries 4.00 sauce 4.00 average side 5.00 =£45.00
Gauch = 400g ribeye £31.00 sauce £3.00 fries £5.00 average side £5.00 = £44.00
calibrax said:
And this is why I don't go out to steakhouses in the UK. For those steak prices I can buy a 2kg rib roast, cut it into 5 steaks, and cook them exactly to my tastes. Why spend £30+ on a mediocre steak when I can have 5 steaks done to perfection at home for the same cost?
People like going out to eat and getting someone else to cook their meal and do the washing up. Around my way you can get pretty much any kind of food delivered to your door. But the restaurants still survive because people visit them. calibrax said:
craigjm said:
Hawksmoor - 400g ribeye £31.00 fries 4.25 sauce 3.00 average side 4.50 = £42.75
Goodmans = 400g ribeye £34.00 sauce inc fries 5.00 average side 5.00 = £44.00
MASH = 400g ribeye £37.00 sauce 2.50 fries 4.50 average side 4.50 = £48.50
Smith and Wollensky = 400g ribeye £42.00 fries 4.00 sauce 4.00 average side 5.00 =£45.00
Gauch = 400g ribeye £31.00 sauce £3.00 fries £5.00 average side £5.00 = £44.00
And this is why I don't go out to steakhouses in the UK. For those steak prices I can buy a 2kg rib roast, cut it into 5 steaks, and cook them exactly to my tastes. Why spend £30+ on a mediocre steak when I can have 5 steaks done to perfection at home for the same cost?Goodmans = 400g ribeye £34.00 sauce inc fries 5.00 average side 5.00 = £44.00
MASH = 400g ribeye £37.00 sauce 2.50 fries 4.50 average side 4.50 = £48.50
Smith and Wollensky = 400g ribeye £42.00 fries 4.00 sauce 4.00 average side 5.00 =£45.00
Gauch = 400g ribeye £31.00 sauce £3.00 fries £5.00 average side £5.00 = £44.00
I don't disagree which is why I said earlier in the thread that I generally have issues with London steakhouses being all about the meat and the sides and the rest not bring great. When j go out to eat I go to eat stuff that it's not easy for me / cost effective / possible For me to create at home as well as the social experience. My only swerve from that is when it's on expenses and that's when I generally eat steak because I'm eating out 3-4 nights a week
calibrax said:
And this is why I don't go out to steakhouses in the UK. For those steak prices I can buy a 2kg rib roast, cut it into 5 steaks, and cook them exactly to my tastes. Why spend £30+ on a mediocre steak when I can have 5 steaks done to perfection at home for the same cost?
You're absolutely right, and yet I can't resist a good steak restaurant...and often leave it after dinner thinking exactly what you just said. One day I'll learn!
Why does a piece of steak always command such a ridiculous price? I ate at a country pub last weekend and it was £22.
For that I would want something outstanding, but all I got was an average quality 8oz of beef, veg, chips n gravy. The total cost of ingredients to them must be about £5.
For that I would want something outstanding, but all I got was an average quality 8oz of beef, veg, chips n gravy. The total cost of ingredients to them must be about £5.
if you want a decent quality steak in London but don't want to pay through the nose give http://flatironsteak.co.uk/ a try not the quality or ambiance of a goodmans / hawksmore but it pisses on a pub stake or any other chain restaurant steak and a third of the price.
ascayman said:
if you want a decent quality steak in London but don't want to pay through the nose give http://flatironsteak.co.uk/ a try not the quality or ambiance of a goodmans / hawksmore but it pisses on a pub stake or any other chain restaurant steak and a third of the price.
Flat iron is brilliant, but, the one I went to (think they have 2 now) only had space for about 25 covers. Without being able to book a table you're often waiting for hours for your meal.I've said it before but the best steak I've had in London was at tramshed in Hoxton. (Hixter backside and city) were also good and same chain I believe - far cheaper than goodmans and similar quality IMO
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