What is the issue with Budweiser?
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Long Bud story here so stay with me. Many years ago I was in a KTV in China. For those who don't know they are Karaoke w
ehouses infamous across Asia. Anyhow picture this, a few Asian businessmen, the Westerner (me) and a load of scantily clad petite Asian girls. All singing badly.
Drinking heavily seemed to be the order of the day and whiskey being the number 1 drink, they're all pouring and kampai (cheers/skulling) including the girls. I can't stand scotch so stick to a beer. Which happens to be bud.
What strikes me is the guys blokes are getting smashed but not the girls, I mean the Asian lads are properly smashed but the girls just playing it up, so I question this persistently with one and she shows me the trick.
Drink half a bottle of bud, the every time there's a scotch kampai, follow it up immediately with a beer chaser and spit scotch back into bottle of bud. None of these girls swallow, in every meaning of the sense.
There's always a little serf running forward and back taking bottles and adding more so he/she is on the scam. And because the place is dimly lit and bud bottles are dark, it works a treat. The punter are encouraged by the girls to keep drinking more and more and the house makes a ton of cash.
Can never quite look at a bottle of bud without thinking that night.
ehouses infamous across Asia. Anyhow picture this, a few Asian businessmen, the Westerner (me) and a load of scantily clad petite Asian girls. All singing badly.Drinking heavily seemed to be the order of the day and whiskey being the number 1 drink, they're all pouring and kampai (cheers/skulling) including the girls. I can't stand scotch so stick to a beer. Which happens to be bud.
What strikes me is the guys blokes are getting smashed but not the girls, I mean the Asian lads are properly smashed but the girls just playing it up, so I question this persistently with one and she shows me the trick.
Drink half a bottle of bud, the every time there's a scotch kampai, follow it up immediately with a beer chaser and spit scotch back into bottle of bud. None of these girls swallow, in every meaning of the sense.
There's always a little serf running forward and back taking bottles and adding more so he/she is on the scam. And because the place is dimly lit and bud bottles are dark, it works a treat. The punter are encouraged by the girls to keep drinking more and more and the house makes a ton of cash.
Can never quite look at a bottle of bud without thinking that night.
vournikas said:
zygalski said:
OP try some Tyskie. It has flavour 
Or Zweic / Lech / ZubrPolish lagers, IME, tend to be very good indeed, especially Zubr.
I don't understand it either OPl
For me, beer is hugely context-dependant.
If you're in a hot country and are just in from a surf and absolutely knackered, I defy an ice cold Bud out the bottle to be less than the most refreshing thing on earth.
If you're in a warm pub on a cold, wet afternoon, then a craft beer with more flavour will fit the bill better.
Equally, if you're out on a big session in a nice part of town, only drinking CAMRA beers makes you look like one of the Real Ale tts from Viz as well as making you feel full very quickly so Heineken and Peroni et al come into play.
Just like wines, different beers for different occasions. I don't get the hate at all.
For me, beer is hugely context-dependant.
If you're in a hot country and are just in from a surf and absolutely knackered, I defy an ice cold Bud out the bottle to be less than the most refreshing thing on earth.
If you're in a warm pub on a cold, wet afternoon, then a craft beer with more flavour will fit the bill better.
Equally, if you're out on a big session in a nice part of town, only drinking CAMRA beers makes you look like one of the Real Ale t
ts from Viz as well as making you feel full very quickly so Heineken and Peroni et al come into play.Just like wines, different beers for different occasions. I don't get the hate at all.
Disastrous said:
I don't understand it either OPl
For me, beer is hugely context-dependant.
If you're in a hot country and are just in from a surf and absolutely knackered, I defy an ice cold Bud out the bottle to be less than the most refreshing thing on earth.
If you're in a warm pub on a cold, wet afternoon, then a craft beer with more flavour will fit the bill better.
Equally, if you're out on a big session in a nice part of town, only drinking CAMRA beers makes you look like one of the Real Ale tts from Viz as well as making you feel full very quickly so Heineken and Peroni et al come into play.
Just like wines, different beers for different occasions. I don't get the hate at all.
For me, beer is hugely context-dependant.
If you're in a hot country and are just in from a surf and absolutely knackered, I defy an ice cold Bud out the bottle to be less than the most refreshing thing on earth.
If you're in a warm pub on a cold, wet afternoon, then a craft beer with more flavour will fit the bill better.
Equally, if you're out on a big session in a nice part of town, only drinking CAMRA beers makes you look like one of the Real Ale t
ts from Viz as well as making you feel full very quickly so Heineken and Peroni et al come into play.Just like wines, different beers for different occasions. I don't get the hate at all.
While I like craft beers and ales I tend to find that they give me a killer hangover so am wary.
I did discover unfiltered beer at the Timisoreana Brewery in romania, it was delicious, and I usually get a stash dropped every month, when my mate drives from scotland to romania and back.
I did discover unfiltered beer at the Timisoreana Brewery in romania, it was delicious, and I usually get a stash dropped every month, when my mate drives from scotland to romania and back.
My issue with US Budweiser and drinks of it's ilk is that it's sold at a premium price which isn't reflected in the quality of the product.
It's like an Armani watch, basically pish being sold at many times it's true worth.
No issue with anyone drinking it though, why would anyone question someone else's taste? Hell given the choice of water at $3 or a pint of Budweiser for $2 I've taken the beer option many a time.
It's like an Armani watch, basically pish being sold at many times it's true worth.
No issue with anyone drinking it though, why would anyone question someone else's taste? Hell given the choice of water at $3 or a pint of Budweiser for $2 I've taken the beer option many a time.
Yes, I think something the Real Ale tts forget is that what they're wking over is still just beer. It's hardly a properly complex drink like whisky so not so worth getting wound up about. It's a refreshment really.
Don't forget, whisky goes through a stage of being basically just strong beer waaaaay before it's turned into whisky.
So essentially, arguing over it is just fussing about unfinished whisky.
ts forget is that what they're wking over is still just beer. It's hardly a properly complex drink like whisky so not so worth getting wound up about. It's a refreshment really.Don't forget, whisky goes through a stage of being basically just strong beer waaaaay before it's turned into whisky.
So essentially, arguing over it is just fussing about unfinished whisky.
Real ale is beer that's served rather warm and flat but ultimately tastes better than most lagers. Craft ale is intended to taste of more interesting flavours, in unusual combinations.
They serve nice tea in the Waldorf and the Ritz. They taste of lots more interesting flavours than tetley tea bags. Does anyone wk on about how supposedly pretentious that is? No. Does anyone say there is no longer any place for tetley? No. Do I still have Yorkshire tea with my breakfast? Yes. Do I enjoy nice tea as an occasional treat? Yes. It's not craft tea, it's just produced with more interest and quality ingredients.
If I was going to write something off I'd be writing off the mass produced tasteless one that had never seen a human hand but ultimately it wouldn't sell in such large numbers if its customers wanted it to be different.
Just drink your Budweiser.
They serve nice tea in the Waldorf and the Ritz. They taste of lots more interesting flavours than tetley tea bags. Does anyone w
k on about how supposedly pretentious that is? No. Does anyone say there is no longer any place for tetley? No. Do I still have Yorkshire tea with my breakfast? Yes. Do I enjoy nice tea as an occasional treat? Yes. It's not craft tea, it's just produced with more interest and quality ingredients. If I was going to write something off I'd be writing off the mass produced tasteless one that had never seen a human hand but ultimately it wouldn't sell in such large numbers if its customers wanted it to be different.
Just drink your Budweiser.
Disastrous said:
Yes, I think something the Real Ale tts forget is that what they're wking over is still just beer. It's hardly a properly complex drink like whisky so not so worth getting wound up about. It's a refreshment really.
Don't forget, whisky goes through a stage of being basically just strong beer waaaaay before it's turned into whisky.
So essentially, arguing over it is just fussing about unfinished whisky.
Distillation is hardly the most advanced procedure known to man so I'm not sure it sufficiently elevates one over the other. ts forget is that what they're wking over is still just beer. It's hardly a properly complex drink like whisky so not so worth getting wound up about. It's a refreshment really.Don't forget, whisky goes through a stage of being basically just strong beer waaaaay before it's turned into whisky.
So essentially, arguing over it is just fussing about unfinished whisky.
Beer has a lot more ingredients (and consequently a huge variety of styles) than Whisk(e)y so I would argue brewing beer is more skilful if done properly. After all a lot of the better whiskies achieve their edge with age not just skill in the production.
If you like Bud, drink Bud.
If you like whisky, drink whisky.
EnthusiastOwned said:
I'm a food/drink snob and to be fair I don't mind American Beer/Larger. Budweiser has it's time and place, it's light, not too gassy and you can drink a lot of it without being bloated or getting too drunk.
You "don't mind" American beer? America is unquestionably the best country at producing a huge variety of styles and are widely acknowledged as such.EnthusiastOwned said:
Out of all the american beers which floated over to the UK though, Micholob was the best; but it seems impossible to get now.
But drinking it as a choice amongst others, it's just one of those drinks for people who don't know any better.
I find it seriously hard to believe that Michelob was ever the best American beer available in the UK.But drinking it as a choice amongst others, it's just one of those drinks for people who don't know any better.
Beer's like any other foodstuff in that there are different kinds, different qualities for different tastes.
Nothing wrong with a cold pint or bottle of mainstream lager on a hot day. Nothing wrong with enjoying something a bit more complex on another day. There's a small brewer not far from me, -it's nice to buy local and it tastes more interesting for when you want to dwell on the flavours going on a bit more. He does a pale ale which isn't ruined by going in the fridge and is lovely and refreshing. But another day I'll buy a 4 pack of Kronenbourg and enjoy that.
Nothing wrong with a cold pint or bottle of mainstream lager on a hot day. Nothing wrong with enjoying something a bit more complex on another day. There's a small brewer not far from me, -it's nice to buy local and it tastes more interesting for when you want to dwell on the flavours going on a bit more. He does a pale ale which isn't ruined by going in the fridge and is lovely and refreshing. But another day I'll buy a 4 pack of Kronenbourg and enjoy that.
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