Why do restaurants serve nearly raw vegetables as cooked?

Why do restaurants serve nearly raw vegetables as cooked?

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Efbe

9,251 posts

166 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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boiling veg, not steaming? eek.

Fastchas

2,646 posts

121 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Speed 3 said:
Fastchas said:
I'm not making this up...my Mum puts the veg on before putting meat in the oven.
I weighed 10st (6' tall)up to the age of 25 before I left home. I'm now 13st.
My Mum used to give them 20 minutes in a pressure cooker. Surprised there was anything left to spoon out after that. rolleyes

I bet your meat spent at least 3 hours in the oven too laugh
Yeah, if she remembered it was there...
Steak is another story. I was never aware of the different stages of cooking, I thought it was just one - fecked!

Riley Blue

20,955 posts

226 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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mike80 said:
Speed 3 said:
My Mum used to give them 20 minutes in a pressure cooker. Surprised there was anything left to spoon out after that. rolleyes
Same as mine. Me and my brother hated sprouts, but if she got a load cheap - or free - we'd have eat mountains of the bloody things that had been pressure cooked for hours...
Eat...? You'd need a straw to 'eat' veggies cooked that long...!

21TonyK

11,530 posts

209 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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To answer the OP's question the answer is your veg weren't cooked when you ordered them...

They may have been blanched days (yes days) ahead and then refreshed to order. Literally a 30 second dunk in boiling water, or, depending on the establishment a 10 second ping.

In these instances cooking on is near impossible, they would have needed to cook again from fresh which they may not have been able to do. Busy service, none, prepped etc etc Again depends on the place.

As you have already found asking ahead of your booking should get the results you want although not everyone will understand the need.

I have to cook to al dente and soft, pureed and for liquid feeds.

condor

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8,837 posts

248 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Thanks Tony, that makes things a lot clearer smile

However, why can't pre-prepared blanched veg be boiled/microwaved for longer to ensure it's soft?

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Because most people don't like soft veg

21TonyK

11,530 posts

209 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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condor said:
Thanks Tony, that makes things a lot clearer smile

However, why can't pre-prepared blanched veg be boiled/microwaved for longer to ensure it's soft?
Some veg can but a microwave dehydrates the veg as it reheats so to cook beyond reheating starts to destroy the veg and refreshing in boiling water will cook the outside of the veg leaving the centre still hard.

It will work for some veg but not all. Add in that its an unexpected request mid service in a restaurant and 9/10 chefs will be very dismissive and unfortunately you have experienced the end result.

Requesting soft veg when ordering food should not be a problem for any real kitchen. A pub where the KP pings everything while the chef is having a fag in the car park might give different results.



The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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condor said:
Today I had a lovely fish and shellfish pie in a local restaurant
...... it was returned

........... I returned it again
Has anyone ever told you that you are really asking for trouble?

Loyly

17,996 posts

159 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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What is the health reason for wanting mushy vegetables? Don't you have any teeth?

768

13,681 posts

96 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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You must've really wanted to eat that asparagus! Can't say I'd have bothered to return it the first time.

condor

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8,837 posts

248 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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The Mad Monk said:
Has anyone ever told you that you are really asking for trouble?
No, no one did.
I could have complained about how the table knife was so blunt it couldn't cut into the asparagus, which is why it was returned the 2nd time. Waitress wanted to know if it was OK, I said if the knife can't cut it...then no. Is woody asparagus acceptable too?
At home, I have table knives that cut food and I know how to steam asparagus ( 5 mins is fine).

AndyHCZ

171 posts

119 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Not quite sure why you're being served asparagus as it's completely out of season.

Asparagus served at the moment will almost certainly come from Peru - if you were to snap off the woody bits, you would have nothing left. It really is no comparison to British/French/Italian asparagus from May-June time. No matter how you cook asparagus from Peru, it will taste hard and fibrous (other than the spears).

Bullett

10,886 posts

184 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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I think your problem was more that you were in a bad restaurant.
Serving Asparagus that is way out of season and poor customer service by the sound of it.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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AndyHCZ said:
Not quite sure why you're being served asparagus as it's completely out of season.

Asparagus served at the moment will almost certainly come from Peru - if you were to snap off the woody bits, you would have nothing left. It really is no comparison to British/French/Italian asparagus from May-June time. No matter how you cook asparagus from Peru, it will taste hard and fibrous (other than the spears).
Exactly.