Food Pet Peeves

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NordicCrankShaft

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1,724 posts

115 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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Colonial said:
Grow up.

Not having any decent veggie/vegan options is the mark of a lazy chef. It's really not that hard.
Not really, when I was running kitchens there was a tiny percentage of vegetarians that would come in. There for I wouldn't waste my time creating anything special.

Also 90% of chefs find vegetarians a bit annoying and pretentious. I don't go into the fat duck demanding curry and then complain when they don't have curry on the menu.

FlyingMeeces

9,932 posts

211 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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NordicCrankShaft said:
Colonial said:
Grow up.

Not having any decent veggie/vegan options is the mark of a lazy chef. It's really not that hard.
Not really, when I was running kitchens there was a tiny percentage of vegetarians that would come in. There for I wouldn't waste my time creating anything special.

Also 90% of chefs find vegetarians a bit annoying and pretentious. I don't go into the fat duck demanding curry and then complain when they don't have curry on the menu.
Might be a bit horse/cart there. Who'd bother going into a restaurant with attitudes like that? I certainly wouldn't book anywhere that had a single appetising thing on the menu that I could eat. Not a fan of pleading for something decent. Sooner take my custom somewhere that has a range of tasty, interesting dishes, some of which don't involve meat.

It's a bit disingenuous to compare people who cannot eat one class of foodstuffs - meat - to demanding a specific single thing which is not on the menu. Comes across a bit dramatic like.

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

118 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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My list:

That crappy vinegary mass catering excuse for ketchup that comes in an enormous barrel, and is often decanted into old Heinz ketchup bottles. It's not Heinz.

Waiters that top up your wine glass as soon as you are nearly empty. You quickly lose count of how many glasses you've had.

Cheap cuts of meat - Suddenly elevated to trendy status and commanding an extortionate price. It's still cheap to buy from your suppliers, how do you justify charging me £25 for a bit of pork belly.

Bar staff passing you your pint/drink by the top of the glass with their hand in a spider like grip of the area you're about to put your lips. Aghh.

Getting put on a 'floater' table in the middle of the room when there's plenty of tables spare by the walls, away from people coming and going, kicking your chair, brushing past you.

Not getting a steak how you ordered it. It really isn't that hard. I generally find you have to order your steak blue to get it rare in the UK. (don't try this in France though)



ZedLeg

12,278 posts

108 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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NordicCrankShaft said:
Also 90% of chefs find vegetarians a bit annoying and pretentious.
What a ridiculous thing to say. Do you mean that you find vegetarians a bit annoying and pretentious and you just assume everyone thinks like you?

I know a few chefs and they've never made broad sweeping statements about vegetarians that I've noticed.

technodup

7,581 posts

130 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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FlyingMeeces said:
NordicCrankShaft said:
Colonial said:
Grow up.

Not having any decent veggie/vegan options is the mark of a lazy chef. It's really not that hard.
Not really, when I was running kitchens there was a tiny percentage of vegetarians that would come in. There for I wouldn't waste my time creating anything special.

Also 90% of chefs find vegetarians a bit annoying and pretentious. I don't go into the fat duck demanding curry and then complain when they don't have curry on the menu.
Sooner take my custom somewhere that has a range of tasty, interesting dishes, some of which don't involve meat.
So everyone's happy then?



Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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I've just googled for vegetarian black pudding.

I'm still mystified.

Why would someone with an objection to meat want something that has been specifically formulated to taste like boiled pig's blood?

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

108 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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The guy who made it isn't actually a vegan chef, he cooks with meat as well. He likes the challenge of vegan cooking and wanted to try doing something different.

It's ok not to get it though, some things aren't for everyone smile.

gregd

1,648 posts

219 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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MarshPhantom said:
technodup said:
know a vegan who raves about Soy Division in Shawlands.

But she is a bit mental.
She's Lost Control?
Brilliant, that joke had real Substance smile

NordicCrankShaft

Original Poster:

1,724 posts

115 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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ZedLeg said:
What a ridiculous thing to say. Do you mean that you find vegetarians a bit annoying and pretentious and you just assume everyone thinks like you?

I know a few chefs and they've never made broad sweeping statements about vegetarians that I've noticed.
I guess you must know more than I do then as a 15 year career working in many top restaurants around the UK and Europe must mean most of the chefs I've met and worked with were also liars.

Speed 3

4,569 posts

119 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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gregd said:
MarshPhantom said:
technodup said:
know a vegan who raves about Soy Division in Shawlands.

But she is a bit mental.
She's Lost Control?
Brilliant, that joke had real Substance smile
Heard the place has got real Atmosphere

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

108 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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NordicCrankShaft said:
ZedLeg said:
What a ridiculous thing to say. Do you mean that you find vegetarians a bit annoying and pretentious and you just assume everyone thinks like you?

I know a few chefs and they've never made broad sweeping statements about vegetarians that I've noticed.
I guess you must know more than I do then as a 15 year career working in many top restaurants around the UK and Europe must mean most of the chefs I've met and worked with were also liars.
So you know 90% of all chefs? Is that just UK or worldwide? Does it include vegan/vegetarian chefs?

What you said was nonsense hyperbole, at least you're keeping the shouty prick chef stereotype alive though.

technodup

7,581 posts

130 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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I worked in kitchens back in the day and without exception veggies were treated with utter contempt.

Mind you that experience is also the reason I rarely eat out. I know what they get up to.

Fun Bus

17,911 posts

218 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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craigjm said:
The main reason is that it extends the shelf life of the sandwich because it keeps the bread moist to give an extra 24 hours of life. It's the cheapest way to do it but I'm with you I hate it
I'm interested to know more about this logic on sandwiches.

bingybongy

3,875 posts

146 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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technodup said:
I worked in kitchens back in the day and without exception veggies were treated with utter contempt.

Mind you that experience is also the reason I rarely eat out. I know what they get up to.
In 17 years in kitchens I never knew veggies known with anything other than contempt.
I did however stop working in catering 13 yeas ago.

RobbieTheTruth

1,877 posts

119 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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Trabi601 said:
I've just googled for vegetarian black pudding.

I'm still mystified.

Why would someone with an objection to meat want something that has been specifically formulated to taste like boiled pig's blood?
I'm mystified as to how people don't understand this?

Presumably, they think black pudding is delicious, however they object to the killing of animals for food.

If I turned veggie, I'd be eating the fake meat too.

NordicCrankShaft

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1,724 posts

115 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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ZedLeg said:
So you know 90% of all chefs? Is that just UK or worldwide? Does it include vegan/vegetarian chefs?

What you said was nonsense hyperbole, at least you're keeping the shouty prick chef stereotype alive though.
Oh look, two people I've never met before coming forward confirming what I said.

Stick to your butternut squash soup pal.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

108 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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Where did I say I was vegetarian?

I do make a pretty good butternut squash soup though.

NordicCrankShaft

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1,724 posts

115 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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ZedLeg said:
Where did I say I was vegetarian?

I do make a pretty good butternut squash soup though.
Touché

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

12,958 posts

100 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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Apologies for jumping in on somebody else's row, but I know a few chefs personally, yet I have never heard any contempt expressed by them towards vegetarians.
Sarah is also a vegi, and I understand the frustration at many places offering limited choice. We went for a meal with the olds recently, to a highly regarded local place. ONE vegetarian offering. Ridiculous in these times, what, is it 1/20 people are now vegetarian?

bingybongy

3,875 posts

146 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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I did say it was some time ago.