Food Pet Peeves

[technodup]

ambuletz said:

for the vegan sometimes the only option at a steak/bbq/burger place on their menu is literally salad or chips

Why would a vegan even be in a steak/BBQ place? Handing over money to a business which profits from killed animals? Sitting amongst people with dead animals on their plates? Might as well have a fking burger.

Or stay at home.

I've no beef with vegans. But visiting and thereby endorsing a restaurant which sells meat yet making a deal of the fact you don't eat meat I don't understand. Ethical confusion imo.

[Trabi601]

technodup said:

I've no beef with vegans.

[dazco]

technodup said:

ambuletz said:

for the vegan sometimes the only option at a steak/bbq/burger place on their menu is literally salad or chips

Why would a vegan even be in a steak/BBQ place? Handing over money to a business which profits from killed animals? Sitting amongst people with dead animals on their plates? Might as well have a fking burger.

Or stay at home.

I've no beef with vegans. But visiting and thereby endorsing a restaurant which sells meat yet making a deal of the fact you don't eat meat I don't understand. Ethical confusion imo.

My daughter claims she has just become a vegan, nothing to do with animals, she is in it for perceived health benefits

[Colonial]

dazco said:

Just out of interest what would you like them to put on for the vegan?

Mushroom burger is a good shout. Can be done as vegan with a cashew based cheese or veggie with some haloumi or crumbled feta.

Aubergine done as a parmigiana style is also an option, cut thickly, crumbed and then roasted with a tomoto sauce and some soy cheese in place of regular cheese.

The mushroom in particular is less work than making a burger, so not sure why you wouldn't have it on the menu.

I'm a meat eater, but if there is a good looking veggie option I will get it.

A place that markets itself as being a high end eatery that doesn't bother with decent veggie options just shows they haven't actually moved with the times and are essentially lazy.

[dazco]

Colonial said:

dazco said:

Just out of interest what would you like them to put on for the vegan?

Mushroom burger is a good shout. Can be done as vegan with a cashew based cheese or veggie with some haloumi or crumbled feta.

Aubergine done as a parmigiana style is also an option, cut thickly, crumbed and then roasted with a tomoto sauce and some soy cheese in place of regular cheese.

The mushroom in particular is less work than making a burger, so not sure why you wouldn't have it on the menu.

I'm a meat eater, but if there is a good looking veggie option I will get it.

A place that markets itself as being a high end eatery that doesn't bother with decent veggie options just shows they haven't actually moved with the times and are essentially lazy.

I asked about vegans really, veggies are quite easy to cater for.

Judging by what you have said here I would certainly not cater for vegans unless I was in London. Don't forget , most restaurant's are proud of the food they serve and would be loathe to put out crap tasting food. As I would imagine most vegan food is.

[Colonial]

dazco said:

I asked about vegans really, veggies are quite easy to cater for.

Judging by what you have said here I would certainly not cater for vegans unless I was in London. Don't forget , most restaurant's are proud of the food they serve and would be loathe to put out crap tasting food. As I would imagine most vegan food is.

That is why I gave both vegan and veggie options, off the top of my head, that would be suitable for a steak house/burger joint without causing any major issues or creating significant additional work.

I don't know how you can consider a marinated mushroom, grilled, and served with, I dunno, an Avocado Chimichurri, on a burger bun, as not a tasty option?

Staying with the burger theme why not a large piece of roasted pumpkin, dusted with cumin, a salsa verde, some roast capsicum and maybe some hard fried tempeh?

Pressed and fried tofu, marinated in lemongrass with a sriracha (vegan - once again, ditch the eggs) aioli?

This is without even considering making vegan or veggie patties (just ditch the egg for vegan, not hard).

I'm just a home cook and these are just off the top of my head. I'd happily eat any of them. And have done in the past.

[FlyingMeeces]

dazco said:

I asked about vegans really, veggies are quite easy to cater for.

Judging by what you have said here I would certainly not cater for vegans unless I was in London. Don't forget , most restaurant's are proud of the food they serve and would be loathe to put out crap tasting food. As I would imagine most vegan food is.

You imagine mistakenly. There are of course crap vegan meals just like there are terrible meat based meals, but certainly not 'most'.

My favourite Lebanese takeaway do a fabulous moussaka: deep rich spiced tomato/aubergine/onion, sometimes with chickpeas. Usually over rice, or with couscous or a fresh flatbread. I'm not vegan, but I order it nearly every time because it's one of the nicest things on the menu.

Plenty of curry type options, pasta with various, go far eastern and there's all sorts too. Plenty of options, being vegan (I'm not, my best mate is) isn't incompatible with enjoying good grub.

[technodup]

dazco said:

My daughter claims she has just become a vegan, nothing to do with animals, she is in it for perceived health benefits

There's a knob joke in there but it's probably a bit close to the bone...

[TopGear7]

Cotty said:

TopGear7 said:

2. Eg there's a group of 10 mates going for dinner, one is a veggie, that restaurant who chose not to bother with veggies has lost out on 10 customers.

What if it goes for a vote? If I want to go to a steak restaurant that does not have a vegie option, the veggie can pass. Likewise if someone suggests a meal at a restaurant where the cuisine is not to my liking, I can pass. So you can't expect the 9 to bend to the will of the 1.

You can't please everyone all the time.

I suppose that depends on the dynamic of your friendship group. At the present time with everyone being so busy we just about manage to meet up once a month for a dinner so the notion of leaving someone behind isn't on the table. However if you're a group of mates who regularly meets up then yeah it's fair enough if everyone wants to go to a certain place to try out which doesn't have veggie / vegan options then the one person can pass on it etc

[TopGear7]

I'm a veggie and I have to say I've not had an issue with good quality veggie options for a long time. Even when I visit these meaty burger places or steakhouses they all make an effort to have a good quality veggie option on the menu. The only places I avoid is French restaurants as there will be nothing for me but I'm not fussed about that.

[Cotty]

technodup said:

I've no beef with vegans.

[TopGear7]

The price of nachos has increasingly reached ludicrous levels. It seems to be the norm now for nachos to be 6 - 10 quid. This is plate full of tortilla chips (ridiculously inexpensive), sour cream, salsa, jalapeños and they have the cheek charge extra for guacamole.

[dazco]

TopGear7 said:

The price of nachos has increasingly reached ludicrous levels. It seems to be the norm now for nachos to be 6 - 10 quid. This is plate full of tortilla chips (ridiculously inexpensive), sour cream, salsa, jalapeños and they have the cheek charge extra for guacamole.

How much do you think other stuff costs? A pizza? Soup? A cup of tea? Guacamole is expensive

[TopGear7]

dazco said:

TopGear7 said:

The price of nachos has increasingly reached ludicrous levels. It seems to be the norm now for nachos to be 6 - 10 quid. This is plate full of tortilla chips (ridiculously inexpensive), sour cream, salsa, jalapeños and they have the cheek charge extra for guacamole.

How much do you think other stuff costs? A pizza? Soup? A cup of tea? Guacamole is expensive

What?

If I'm paying 10 quid for nachos I expect a key ingredient of nachos to be incorporated in to the price.

It's like paying 15 quid for a pizza and cheese being an add on... By your logic because 'cheese is expensive'.

Edited by TopGear7 on Wednesday 8th March 00:14

[dazco]

TopGear7 said:

dazco said:

TopGear7 said:

The price of nachos has increasingly reached ludicrous levels. It seems to be the norm now for nachos to be 6 - 10 quid. This is plate full of tortilla chips (ridiculously inexpensive), sour cream, salsa, jalapeños and they have the cheek charge extra for guacamole.

How much do you think other stuff costs? A pizza? Soup? A cup of tea? Guacamole is expensive

What?

If I'm paying 10 quid for nachos I expect a key ingredient of nachos to be incorporated in to the price.

It's like paying 15 quid for a pizza and cheese being an add on... By your logic because 'cheese is expensive'.

Edited by TopGear7 on Wednesday 8th March 00:14

Well you said nachos cost 6 quid, the key ingredients will be included, i'e. tortilla chips and cheese .

[HarryFlatters]

TopGear7 said:

and they have the cheek charge extra for guacamole.

And it'll be bought in guacamole, which is always fking horrible.

An avocado costs a quid, a lime is 10p, salt and pepper costs fractions of a pence. Not making your own is, frankly, pathetically lazy.

[TIGA84]

HarryFlatters said:

And it'll be bought in guacamole, which is always fking horrible.

An avocado costs a quid, a lime is 10p, salt and pepper costs fractions of a pence. Not making your own is, frankly, pathetically lazy.

Now multiply by 4 and your fresh guacamole (you forgot chilies, onions, coriander btw) not counting those, is now £4.50 in a restaurant going by the average mark-up.

[HarryFlatters]

TIGA84 said:

Now multiply by 4 and your fresh guacamole (you forgot chilies, onions, coriander btw) not counting those, is now £4.50 in a restaurant going by the average mark-up.

I like mine plain - I save the chilli, onion and coriander for my pico de gallo.

[omniflow]

HarryFlatters said:

I like mine plain - I save the chilli, onion and coriander for my pico de gallo.

So you like mashed avocado then?

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