Won't be bothering with pubs from now on.

Won't be bothering with pubs from now on.

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okgo

38,037 posts

198 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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Well that depends if you value quantity over quality right?

I'd be sending that scotch egg back where it came from.

This will make you laugh, I went out for a lunch the other week where a scotch egg was £10!!!

It was bloody amazing.

thebraketester

14,229 posts

138 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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Nanook said:
That scotch egg is seriously overdone!
What he said....

Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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okgo said:
Well that depends if you value quantity over quality right?

I'd be sending that scotch egg back where it came from.

This will make you laugh, I went out for a lunch the other week where a scotch egg was £10!!!

It was bloody amazing.
I discovered the fusion cuisine delight that is the Mac 'n' Cheese scotch egg at the weekend in a pub in Cambridge.

Rick101

6,969 posts

150 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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Just received my CAMRA 50p off a pint Spoons vouchers.

Haven't had a date night in a while, our lass will be pleased biggrin

battered

4,088 posts

147 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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markcoznottz said:
battered said:
Cotty said:
They could just provide the meals in a fridge and a microwave. Cuts out the server, cook, washer up etc. If they are going to be st might as well go the whole hog.
Trust me, I could take a meal out of our despatch store, ping it for 3 minutes and chuck it on a warmed plate, it would be better than the crap that Holiday Inn dishes up. I'm not exaggerating. It's true.
True of a lot of factory trade food. Problem is a lot of restaurants are selling out and using this garbage, and charging high prices for it.
Ahem, excuse me, in the factory where I work we don't manufacture garbage. It is high quality food. This is not to be confused with the 79p value lasagne, it's proper food, manufactured in a well controlled factory from decent quality ingredients. It's the culinary equivalent of a VW Passat. Not especially cheap, and mass manufactured, but well screwed together and conforming absolutely with the standard required, and a very well executed final product.

In sharp contrast a lot of the catering stuff is price engineered to death and it tastes like it. Serve it up with chips, half the punters are p*ssed anyway and wouldn't know a decent dinner if it bit them.

A challenge, to anyone here. Go out and buy an upmarket ready meal. I'm talking (say) a JS My Goodness or Taste The Difference item, or Waitrose equivalent, not a crap one. Buy 2 packs. Warm one up as per instructions, taste it. Work out a recipe (easy enough) and buy the raw materials in the supermarket. Take your time. Get it all back home and start the clock. Start cooking. You have 1 hour. No, sod it, 2 hours. In 2 hours your version is going up against the other pack that you bought earlier. I'll put money on your facsimile not being as good as the manufactured item. Seriously, the upmarket stuff is bloody good and very difficult to replicate. I didn't want it to be true either, and I like cooking, but when I look at the efforts we go to here and the time available in the home kitchen, I can see why fewer and fewer people bother cooking.

NDA

21,574 posts

225 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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Zod said:
Drinking canned supermarket laget while sitting at your computer posting here and on facebook is not socialising.
You'll be telling us sitting on your own watching spanking nuns .com is not a proper relationship next.

brrapp

3,701 posts

162 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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NDA said:
You'll be telling us sitting on your own watching spanking nuns .com is not a proper relationship next.
Please tell me that's a real website.

Landlord

12,689 posts

257 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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HOGEPH said:
On a related note, for those in the trade, do you charge the same for a pint of shandy as for a pint of beer, and if so, why?
Yes we do and it's because of the factors that dictate the price we charge, the cost of the beer is relatively insignificant. The majority is made up of costs that are the same irrespective of what's in the glass. For example:

  • Rent/mortgage
  • VAT
  • Insurance
  • Staff - FoH, Bar, Cleaners
  • Utilities - gas, electricity, water
  • Phone/wifi
  • Business rates & council tax
  • Refuse collection
  • Wastage (broken/stolen glassware)
  • Building maintenance
  • Equipment purchase and maintenance
  • Licencing (TV, music)
  • Advertising/marketing
  • Accountancy, banking costs
i.e. costs associated with running a business.

Edited by Landlord on Tuesday 21st March 10:39

JKRolling

537 posts

102 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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I totally understand those costs are necessary and I guess it comes down to scale of business as the more customers the less you need to make.

I'm currently in another pub enjoying a pint of beer for £1.99

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Landlord said:
i.e. costs associated with running a business.
Careful, you'll blow their minds!!! biggrin

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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JKRolling said:
I totally understand those costs are necessary and I guess it comes down to scale of business as the more customers the less you need to make.

I'm currently in another pub enjoying a pint of beer for £1.99
To be fair, you can guess the kind of place you're in if you're having a pint at 9.52am. wink

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Condi said:
They buy it in bulk and will take the 'older' stock which is still in date but not the latest brew. They know they will sell so much volume they dont have to worry about it going out of date.

As much as I do like the local pub, if you spend 2 or 3 nights a week in there you're looking at £60 a week!
A friend who worked in the industry assures me the best before date bit is a bit of a myth, however the cheap beer comes from the sheer buying power they have.

With regards to the taste, I think the beer isn't as good as it is generally kept without much care by poorly trained and indifferent staff.

I'd be surprised if they are terribly studious about cellar temperature, settle the beer over 24 hours, spiling a barrel and letting it sit before tapping it and all those things the gaffer of your local will do.

Just bang em in and serve away

bigandclever

13,788 posts

238 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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JKRolling said:
I drink in a craft type of place ... You don't get any idiots in as they don't sell Carling / stella / strongbow and the like and it's fully refurbished with very attractive bar staff.

And yet they seem to sell lager by Guinness, that ordinarily you wouldn't even clean your bog with.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Vocal Minority said:
Condi said:
They buy it in bulk and will take the 'older' stock which is still in date but not the latest brew. They know they will sell so much volume they dont have to worry about it going out of date.

As much as I do like the local pub, if you spend 2 or 3 nights a week in there you're looking at £60 a week!
A friend who worked in the industry assures me the best before date bit is a bit of a myth, however the cheap beer comes from the sheer buying power they have.

With regards to the taste, I think the beer isn't as good as it is generally kept without much care by poorly trained and indifferent staff.

I'd be surprised if they are terribly studious about cellar temperature, settle the beer over 24 hours, spiling a barrel and letting it sit before tapping it and all those things the gaffer of your local will do.

Just bang em in and serve away
A very senior person at one of the large brewers assures me that it is very much the case that Wetherspoons buys bear close to the drink by date.

Adenauer

18,580 posts

236 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Du1point8 said:
RC1807 said:
laugh

£3.80 a pint?! I fking wish!
€7.50 here! rolleyes
$10 on happy hour here or if Guiness its $20 a pint.

Got to love Singapore.
€4 per pint here for draft Guinness in Adenau am 'ring.

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JKRolling

537 posts

102 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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bigandclever said:
JKRolling said:
I drink in a craft type of place ... You don't get any idiots in as they don't sell Carling / stella / strongbow and the like and it's fully refurbished with very attractive bar staff.

And yet they seem to sell lager by Guinness, that ordinarily you wouldn't even clean your bog with.
That's not what is in that glass. The glass is from another of my mates pubs

I'm in this pub





Edited by JKRolling on Tuesday 21st March 11:21

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Zod said:
Vocal Minority said:
Condi said:
They buy it in bulk and will take the 'older' stock which is still in date but not the latest brew. They know they will sell so much volume they dont have to worry about it going out of date.

As much as I do like the local pub, if you spend 2 or 3 nights a week in there you're looking at £60 a week!
A friend who worked in the industry assures me the best before date bit is a bit of a myth, however the cheap beer comes from the sheer buying power they have.

With regards to the taste, I think the beer isn't as good as it is generally kept without much care by poorly trained and indifferent staff.

I'd be surprised if they are terribly studious about cellar temperature, settle the beer over 24 hours, spiling a barrel and letting it sit before tapping it and all those things the gaffer of your local will do.

Just bang em in and serve away
A very senior person at one of the large brewers assures me that it is very much the case that Wetherspoons buys bear close to the drink by date.
Then my friend considers themselves out-ranked smile

brrapp

3,701 posts

162 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Zod said:
Wetherspoons buys bear close to the drink by date.
So what's the shelf life on a grizzly?

SS2.

14,462 posts

238 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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gizlaroc said:
To be fair, you can guess the kind of place you're in if you're having a pint at 9.52am. wink
A few Sundays back - 9am breakfast and a couple of pints in this place.

Very nice it was too - beer, the full English and the pub itself.




Sir Lord Poopie

Original Poster:

212 posts

90 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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JKRolling said:
I'm in this pub

At 11am on a Tuesday. Fair play.