Won't be bothering with pubs from now on.
Discussion
Sir Lord Poopie said:
I know I said I wouldn't be bothering with pubs again but right now I fancy going to a spoons establishment by myself, taking my laptop so I can make the obligatory stposts, drink about 5 pints of ale and eat a good burger and chunky chips.
What's the general consensus?
What's the general consensus?
Sounds like a decent plan for a Tuesday afternoon.
Sir Lord Poopie said:
I know I said I wouldn't be bothering with pubs again but right now I fancy going to a spoons establishment by myself, taking my laptop so I can make the obligatory stposts, drink about 5 pints of ale and eat a good burger and chunky chips.
What's the general consensus?
Do it, may help in becoming a better conversationalistWhat's the general consensus?
okgo said:
Just been for a couple of pints (I know, its a tuesday) and an 'Organic Lager' from Sam Smiths is now £4.57! When did that happen?
That was in W1, London.
Which Sam Smith's? Their not particularly amazing cider has been about £4.25 for a year or so if not longer, in some of their London outlets anyway.That was in W1, London.
I think the point of this thread shouldn't be pointing out how high the associated costs of running a hostelry are, but the fact they are so high in the first place.
When it costs as much to have three drinks with your mates as it does to have a very decent meal, you naturally start to question why you are there.
I now very much enjoy eating in pubs but end up annoyed if I'm just there for a drink because of the price. It has become silly and no amount of reference to beers so crafty you can hear the farmer's voice talking the wheat if you put your ear to the glass, could convince me otherwise.
I remember it wasn't long ago we were talking about 'the £5 pint', now that is deemed fairly normal (in London), and according to some here it looks like we can now look forward to 'the £7.50 pint'. We know where it ends, with no more nice pubs, which will be a shame.
When it costs as much to have three drinks with your mates as it does to have a very decent meal, you naturally start to question why you are there.
I now very much enjoy eating in pubs but end up annoyed if I'm just there for a drink because of the price. It has become silly and no amount of reference to beers so crafty you can hear the farmer's voice talking the wheat if you put your ear to the glass, could convince me otherwise.
I remember it wasn't long ago we were talking about 'the £5 pint', now that is deemed fairly normal (in London), and according to some here it looks like we can now look forward to 'the £7.50 pint'. We know where it ends, with no more nice pubs, which will be a shame.
DeltaTango said:
I think the point of this thread shouldn't be pointing out how high the associated costs of running a hostelry are, but the fact they are so high in the first place.
When it costs as much to have three drinks with your mates as it does to have a very decent meal, you naturally start to question why you are there.
I now very much enjoy eating in pubs but end up annoyed if I'm just there for a drink because of the price. It has become silly and no amount of reference to beers so crafty you can hear the farmer's voice talking the wheat if you put your ear to the glass, could convince me otherwise.
I remember it wasn't long ago we were talking about 'the £5 pint', now that is deemed fairly normal (in London), and according to some here it looks like we can now look forward to 'the £7.50 pint'. We know where it ends, with no more nice pubs, which will be a shame.
I absolutely agree, although I do find with really good quality craft beers I don't mind paying a bit extra. A 2/3 pint of a 9% abv ale available in fairly limited quantities that you can really savour and mull over for up to an hour is OK at £7 or £8 but I would baulk at paying that kind of money for a mass produced 'quaffer' where I could reasonably be expected to consume a couple over the space of an hour. When it costs as much to have three drinks with your mates as it does to have a very decent meal, you naturally start to question why you are there.
I now very much enjoy eating in pubs but end up annoyed if I'm just there for a drink because of the price. It has become silly and no amount of reference to beers so crafty you can hear the farmer's voice talking the wheat if you put your ear to the glass, could convince me otherwise.
I remember it wasn't long ago we were talking about 'the £5 pint', now that is deemed fairly normal (in London), and according to some here it looks like we can now look forward to 'the £7.50 pint'. We know where it ends, with no more nice pubs, which will be a shame.
The real problem is that mainstream society is getting more and more anti casual drinking so it becomes seen as more of a luxury than a right to be able to to out and enjoy a pint or two on a regular basis without being taxed at every stage of the process and seen as decadent.
DeltaTango said:
I think the point of this thread shouldn't be pointing out how high the associated costs of running a hostelry are, but the fact they are so high in the first place.
When it costs as much to have three drinks with your mates as it does to have a very decent meal, you naturally start to question why you are there.
I now very much enjoy eating in pubs but end up annoyed if I'm just there for a drink because of the price. It has become silly and no amount of reference to beers so crafty you can hear the farmer's voice talking the wheat if you put your ear to the glass, could convince me otherwise.
I remember it wasn't long ago we were talking about 'the £5 pint', now that is deemed fairly normal (in London), and according to some here it looks like we can now look forward to 'the £7.50 pint'. We know where it ends, with no more nice pubs, which will be a shame.
I don't get this though. When it costs as much to have three drinks with your mates as it does to have a very decent meal, you naturally start to question why you are there.
I now very much enjoy eating in pubs but end up annoyed if I'm just there for a drink because of the price. It has become silly and no amount of reference to beers so crafty you can hear the farmer's voice talking the wheat if you put your ear to the glass, could convince me otherwise.
I remember it wasn't long ago we were talking about 'the £5 pint', now that is deemed fairly normal (in London), and according to some here it looks like we can now look forward to 'the £7.50 pint'. We know where it ends, with no more nice pubs, which will be a shame.
As I said on page 1, £20 for 4-5 pints and 3-4 hours with mates is not expensive is it?
And there are not many places where pints start at £7.50, maybe that will be the norm in another 10 years or so.
I like Leffe Blonde, but that is seriously expensive, I think it is £4.20 for a half at the pub I go to, so I have one and then have a Broadside if I want another beer, but usually red wine.
Now red wine, that is expensive, usually between £6-12 a glass and I drink it as fast as my mates down pints.
Landlord said:
Exactly - we sell Warsteiner for £4.20. For a "standard" GP it should be well over £5 but we won't sell at that in order to please our many regulars who drink it. We just have to take the hit.
Trust me. There's no money in wet-led pubs (naturally there are some exceptions but they're rare).
To anticipate the question - we make our money (which amounts to fk all) on the food. Yes, wine is proportionally profitable but is a small part of our turnover. As are spirits.
I have no axe to grind - but am very fond of my local pub. To be honest, it's not exactly local (30 minute drive), but my local has gone toddler friendly and I can no longer deal with screaming children.Trust me. There's no money in wet-led pubs (naturally there are some exceptions but they're rare).
To anticipate the question - we make our money (which amounts to fk all) on the food. Yes, wine is proportionally profitable but is a small part of our turnover. As are spirits.
As a landlord, what do you think the answer is? I know that some pubs have been hit with massive rate rises, some have suffered a fair bit from the smoking ban. I worry that some great little pubs will close (many already have) and once they're gone, that's it. Gone forever.
croyde said:
The cost of a pint also defines the type of people you are drinking with.
Me and a mate would always meet in a Wetherspoons. Pint 2.50 or a double with mixer 2.99.
We just got fed up with rubbing shoulders with thick uneducated chavs, alcoholics and what must of been some of the ugliest people in London.
Also had to deal with threatening behaviour from time to time.
We moved to the nice place round the corner. OK a fiver a pint and 8 quid for a double G&T but surrounded by nice people and lots of eye candy.
Hmm.Me and a mate would always meet in a Wetherspoons. Pint 2.50 or a double with mixer 2.99.
We just got fed up with rubbing shoulders with thick uneducated chavs, alcoholics and what must of been some of the ugliest people in London.
Also had to deal with threatening behaviour from time to time.
We moved to the nice place round the corner. OK a fiver a pint and 8 quid for a double G&T but surrounded by nice people and lots of eye candy.
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