Won't be bothering with pubs from now on.

Won't be bothering with pubs from now on.

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MrBarry123

6,029 posts

122 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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I assumed £5 was the norm nowadays for an average pint in an "okay" establishment in a town/city.

My local pub is brewery owned though so a pint of 4% bitter is £3.80.

Sir Lord Poopie

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212 posts

91 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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I know I said I wouldn't be bothering with pubs again but right now I fancy going to a spoons establishment by myself, taking my laptop so I can make the obligatory stposts, drink about 5 pints of ale and eat a good burger and chunky chips.

What's the general consensus?


MrBarry123

6,029 posts

122 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Sir Lord Poopie said:
I know I said I wouldn't be bothering with pubs again but right now I fancy going to a spoons establishment by myself, taking my laptop so I can make the obligatory stposts, drink about 5 pints of ale and eat a good burger and chunky chips.

What's the general consensus?
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Sounds like a decent plan for a Tuesday afternoon.

0000

13,812 posts

192 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Dan_1981 said:
Sir Lord Poopie said:
Dan_1981 said:
About £3.80 a pint for Guinness then??

Not that bad really is it?
Yes it is bad. It's 1.30GBP too much.
It's not 2002 any more you realise?
I was paying £1 a pint in 2002. frown

SS2.

14,466 posts

239 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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okgo said:
There are plenty of good pubs within a short walk of there, Bermondsey St has a few of them.
Didn't think many of those along Bermondsey Street were open at 9am on a Sunday.

marcusgrant

1,445 posts

93 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Sir Lord Poopie said:
I know I said I wouldn't be bothering with pubs again but right now I fancy going to a spoons establishment by myself, taking my laptop so I can make the obligatory stposts, drink about 5 pints of ale and eat a good burger and chunky chips.

What's the general consensus?
Do it, may help in becoming a better conversationalist


Gompo

4,415 posts

259 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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okgo said:
Just been for a couple of pints (I know, its a tuesday) and an 'Organic Lager' from Sam Smiths is now £4.57! When did that happen?

That was in W1, London.
Which Sam Smith's? Their not particularly amazing cider has been about £4.25 for a year or so if not longer, in some of their London outlets anyway.

okgo

38,153 posts

199 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Gompo said:
Which Sam Smith's? Their not particularly amazing cider has been about £4.25 for a year or so if not longer, in some of their London outlets anyway.
The Champion.

DeltaTango

381 posts

124 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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I think the point of this thread shouldn't be pointing out how high the associated costs of running a hostelry are, but the fact they are so high in the first place.

When it costs as much to have three drinks with your mates as it does to have a very decent meal, you naturally start to question why you are there.

I now very much enjoy eating in pubs but end up annoyed if I'm just there for a drink because of the price. It has become silly and no amount of reference to beers so crafty you can hear the farmer's voice talking the wheat if you put your ear to the glass, could convince me otherwise.

I remember it wasn't long ago we were talking about 'the £5 pint', now that is deemed fairly normal (in London), and according to some here it looks like we can now look forward to 'the £7.50 pint'. We know where it ends, with no more nice pubs, which will be a shame.


vsonix

3,858 posts

164 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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DeltaTango said:
I think the point of this thread shouldn't be pointing out how high the associated costs of running a hostelry are, but the fact they are so high in the first place.

When it costs as much to have three drinks with your mates as it does to have a very decent meal, you naturally start to question why you are there.

I now very much enjoy eating in pubs but end up annoyed if I'm just there for a drink because of the price. It has become silly and no amount of reference to beers so crafty you can hear the farmer's voice talking the wheat if you put your ear to the glass, could convince me otherwise.

I remember it wasn't long ago we were talking about 'the £5 pint', now that is deemed fairly normal (in London), and according to some here it looks like we can now look forward to 'the £7.50 pint'. We know where it ends, with no more nice pubs, which will be a shame.
I absolutely agree, although I do find with really good quality craft beers I don't mind paying a bit extra. A 2/3 pint of a 9% abv ale available in fairly limited quantities that you can really savour and mull over for up to an hour is OK at £7 or £8 but I would baulk at paying that kind of money for a mass produced 'quaffer' where I could reasonably be expected to consume a couple over the space of an hour.
The real problem is that mainstream society is getting more and more anti casual drinking so it becomes seen as more of a luxury than a right to be able to to out and enjoy a pint or two on a regular basis without being taxed at every stage of the process and seen as decadent.


gizlaroc

17,251 posts

225 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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DeltaTango said:
I think the point of this thread shouldn't be pointing out how high the associated costs of running a hostelry are, but the fact they are so high in the first place.

When it costs as much to have three drinks with your mates as it does to have a very decent meal, you naturally start to question why you are there.

I now very much enjoy eating in pubs but end up annoyed if I'm just there for a drink because of the price. It has become silly and no amount of reference to beers so crafty you can hear the farmer's voice talking the wheat if you put your ear to the glass, could convince me otherwise.

I remember it wasn't long ago we were talking about 'the £5 pint', now that is deemed fairly normal (in London), and according to some here it looks like we can now look forward to 'the £7.50 pint'. We know where it ends, with no more nice pubs, which will be a shame.
I don't get this though.

As I said on page 1, £20 for 4-5 pints and 3-4 hours with mates is not expensive is it?

And there are not many places where pints start at £7.50, maybe that will be the norm in another 10 years or so.

I like Leffe Blonde, but that is seriously expensive, I think it is £4.20 for a half at the pub I go to, so I have one and then have a Broadside if I want another beer, but usually red wine.

Now red wine, that is expensive, usually between £6-12 a glass and I drink it as fast as my mates down pints.



NDA

21,640 posts

226 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Landlord said:
Exactly - we sell Warsteiner for £4.20. For a "standard" GP it should be well over £5 but we won't sell at that in order to please our many regulars who drink it. We just have to take the hit.

Trust me. There's no money in wet-led pubs (naturally there are some exceptions but they're rare).

To anticipate the question - we make our money (which amounts to fk all) on the food. Yes, wine is proportionally profitable but is a small part of our turnover. As are spirits.
I have no axe to grind - but am very fond of my local pub. To be honest, it's not exactly local (30 minute drive), but my local has gone toddler friendly and I can no longer deal with screaming children.

As a landlord, what do you think the answer is? I know that some pubs have been hit with massive rate rises, some have suffered a fair bit from the smoking ban. I worry that some great little pubs will close (many already have) and once they're gone, that's it. Gone forever.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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SS2. said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
is that the place on London Bridge?
That's the one.
I think I deserve a spotter's badge for that! I'll name that pub in one!

DRFC1879

3,439 posts

158 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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croyde said:
The cost of a pint also defines the type of people you are drinking with.

Me and a mate would always meet in a Wetherspoons. Pint 2.50 or a double with mixer 2.99.

We just got fed up with rubbing shoulders with thick uneducated chavs, alcoholics and what must of been some of the ugliest people in London.

Also had to deal with threatening behaviour from time to time.

We moved to the nice place round the corner. OK a fiver a pint and 8 quid for a double G&T but surrounded by nice people and lots of eye candy.
Hmm.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

153 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Nanook said:
This is what is should have looked like though:

Pictures like that make me annoyed I can't stand the smell or taste of egg...

Cotty

39,617 posts

285 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Hugo a Gogo said:
SS2. said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
is that the place on London Bridge?
That's the one.
I think I deserve a spotter's badge for that! I'll name that pub in one!
Didn't name it though did you. Its the Barrowboy & Banker.

okgo

38,153 posts

199 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Cotty said:
Didn't name it though did you. Its the Barrowboy & Banker.
We all knew what pub it was wink


Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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laugh come on though, I got it from halfway across europe!

SS2.

14,466 posts

239 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Hugo a Gogo said:
laugh come on though, I got it from halfway across europe!
I was impressed.. wink

Wadeski

8,163 posts

214 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Pint of Guinness is $8 locally - about 5 quid.

Then again, go out into the middle of the country and you can buy a round of st beer (swill like Miller Light) and have change for a ten. Plenty of change...