Won't be bothering with pubs from now on.

[markcoznottz]

HRL said:

Turkish91 said:

Sir Lord Poopie said:

Dan_1981 said:

About £3.80 a pint for Guinness then??

Not that bad really is it?

Yes it is bad. It's 1.30GBP too much.

What the fk are you on? I bet the average price of a pint of Guinness in a British pub hasn't been £2.50 since the 90s!

I'm afraid your wrong. £2.50 at a Wetherspoon. Don't drink the stuff myself but that's a big price difference if you do.

There are problems with the quality of the beer in all Wetherspoons pubs though. Any seasoned drinker can usually tell, but it's so cheap that people go in. The drink must be lower grade batches or similar?

[Condi]

markcoznottz said:

There are problems with the quality of the beer in all Wetherspoons pubs though. Any seasoned drinker can usually tell, but it's so cheap that people go in. The drink must be lower grade batches or similar?

They buy it in bulk and will take the 'older' stock which is still in date but not the latest brew. They know they will sell so much volume they dont have to worry about it going out of date.

As much as I do like the local pub, if you spend 2 or 3 nights a week in there you're looking at £60 a week!

[Cotty]

KungFuPanda said:

I run a bar in a big city centre and probably hear people moan about once a week and compare how cheap supermarket prices are. I reel off the list of other costs associated with buying a drink in a bar and by the time I've finished, I've bored them into submission.

Just out of interest if you took the tax off how much would that pint be? before and after tax.

[markcoznottz]

Cotty said:

KungFuPanda said:

I run a bar in a big city centre and probably hear people moan about once a week and compare how cheap supermarket prices are. I reel off the list of other costs associated with buying a drink in a bar and by the time I've finished, I've bored them into submission.

Just out of interest if you took the tax off how much would that pint be? before and after tax.

If you look at alcohol duty levied, pub vs supermarket you would have to say that government hates pubs and won't be happy until they have all gone, it would be hard to draw any other conclusions?

[Don]

HRL said:

Turkish91 said:

Sir Lord Poopie said:

Dan_1981 said:

About £3.80 a pint for Guinness then??

Not that bad really is it?

Yes it is bad. It's 1.30GBP too much.

What the fk are you on? I bet the average price of a pint of Guinness in a British pub hasn't been £2.50 since the 90s!

I'm afraid your wrong. £2.50 at a Wetherspoon. Don't drink the stuff myself but that's a big price difference if you do.

I was about to make that comment. Wetherspoons still offer value beer and food. It ain't fine dining but its perfectly wholesome stuff at a cracking price. And you can't beat a pint with breakfast!

[Cotty]

markcoznottz said:

If you look at alcohol duty levied, pub vs supermarket you would have to say that government hates pubs and won't be happy until they have all gone, it would be hard to draw any other conclusions?

That would be a shame

[SwanJack]

Twenty odd years ago the beer in the city centre was £2 for a pint of lager / best bitter, now its £4 for a pint of beer thats brewed locally and is streets ahead in quality and taste. But I'm now only capable of drinking half as much. Result.

[AlexC1981]

Don said:

I was about to make that comment. Wetherspoons still offer value beer and food. It ain't fine dining but its perfectly wholesome stuff at a cracking price. And you can't beat a pint with breakfast!

I was walking past my local 'spoons today and noticed this on the board outside.

Burger with pastrami Might pop in next weekend.

[ambuletz]

How much is the gourmet burger meal at 'spoons? I always found that was the best value thing ever. £5.50 for a burger meal + drink. I usually get a guiness as it tends to be the most expensive, that pretty much accounts for over half the price of the meal. a bargain compared to eating somewhere like McDs or BK. No doubt the price is a little higher now but so too are the fast food places.

[Saleen836]

ambuletz said:

How much is the gourmet burger meal at 'spoons? I always found that was the best value thing ever. £5.50 for a burger meal + drink. I usually get a guiness as it tends to be the most expensive, that pretty much accounts for over half the price of the meal. a bargain compared to eating somewhere like McDs or BK. No doubt the price is a little higher now but so too are the fast food places.

A bit more now...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3068408/weatherspoon...

[Trabi601]

HRL said:

I'm afraid your wrong. £2.50 at a Wetherspoon. Don't drink the stuff myself but that's a big price difference if you do.

But that does mean drinking in Wetherspoons, where they do breakfast beers for old alcoholics.

[SS2.]

markcoznottz said:

There are problems with the quality of the beer in all Wetherspoons pubs though. Any seasoned drinker can usually tell, but it's so cheap that people go in.

Not my experience at all.

We've been enjoying pre-match liveners at a Wetherspoons in town for the past 3 or 4 years. They normally have Doombar on tap and I've never had a bad pint (not once), nor one that tasted like it was even slightly on the turn. And we've got through a lot of beer in that time !

On the odd occasion they've run out of Doom, the alternative ales I've tried have been equally well kept.

£2.45 versus more than double that for exactly the same pint just 100 yards down the road ? No brainer.

[otherman]

ambuletz said:

gourmet ..... 'spoons

[AlexC1981]

otherman said:

ambuletz said:

gourmet ..... 'spoons

Now now This is a burger from one of Joël Robuchon's (the worlds most Michelin starred chef) restaurants...about $90 worth.



I'll be in the Weatherspoon.

(ok, I deliberately picked a small one, but you take my point)!

[HappySilver]

Condi said:

They buy it in bulk and will take the 'older' stock which is still in date but not the latest brew. They know they will sell so much volume they dont have to worry about it going out of date.

No, they buy in bulk so are able to negotiate a lower price, they also work on a low margin high-turnover basis which is a different model to most pubs. The beer is exactly the same stuff as you get elsewhere. Most keg beers have a short shelf life so there generally isn't old stock floating around to be bought up cheap and then distributed to several hundred 'spoons. If the beer quality tastes off it is because it hasn't been looked after on premise, however, they do have some pretty rigorous standards so that should be pretty rare.

[okgo]

Very few pubs shutting in London, still busy, stocking a new wave of craft ales by and large. The pub is going well from what I see, not really bothered if its £5 a pint tbh.

[gizlaroc]

I wonder if the OP every buys a half decent burger out?

I must admit, the first time I have ever thought "Ooh, that's quite a lot." when it comes to food or drink, was at Five Guys the other day, Bacon double Cheeseburger, small fries and a shake, twice was £38.50.
Seemed quite a lot for a fast food joint.

[gizlaroc]

ambuletz said:

this is the perfect article for that cafe tea response.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12099760/Tr...

Haha, excellent.





I think the problem is just ignorance, simply no clue how much it costs to pull a pint in a pub.

[Sir Lord Poopie]

gizlaroc said:

I wonder if the OP every buys a half decent burger out?

I must admit, the first time I have ever thought "Ooh, that's quite a lot." when it comes to food or drink, was at Five Guys the other day, Bacon double Cheeseburger, small fries and a shake, twice was £38.50.
Seemed quite a lot for a fast food joint.

I'd have choked on the burger at that price, crazy money. Talking about burgers I intend to get a 'spoons burger this week; with the obligatory 4 pints.

[HOGEPH]

On a related note, for those in the trade, do you charge the same for a pint of shandy as for a pint of beer, and if so, why?