Soft drinks that don't contain artificial sweetners
Discussion
vaud said:
2 reasons as I understand it:
1) Volume as Aspartame is 200x sweeter than sugar you can use so little
And it's been proven that this causes issues with the body expecting things to be sweeter etc...1) Volume as Aspartame is 200x sweeter than sugar you can use so little
vaud said:
2) Palates vary... so they cater to the sweetest
Which is dumb, as then they are pushing folk to like things even more sweeter.Oh yay oh yay, please hear this. Benorganic.Com (was working for me but now reported as an issue probably no https) Tart Cherry juice. This is the best cherry drink ever, if you ever see it in a corner shop try it. Tart and makes your taste buds zing. It is Turkish apparently so it won't be everywhere, but worth the hunt. Mrs treats me when passing a small corner shop on a45 in Solihull. Comes in a 250ml bottle and it stains glass so give it a shake and don't spill it on white clothes.
Just to prove it is available, it's in USA too https://www.mercato.com/item/ben-organic-100-tart-...
Have a taste of it and say it isn't something special.
Just to prove it is available, it's in USA too https://www.mercato.com/item/ben-organic-100-tart-...
Have a taste of it and say it isn't something special.
got some of this in waitrose on saturday, thinking about this thread an ribena, and its 3 start great taste award, no sweeteners, other than lovely sugar.
https://www.waitrose.com/ecom/products/pixley-berr...
its ok, but not a patch on old ribena, a few cubes of sugar should fix that...as i await root canal treatment!
https://www.waitrose.com/ecom/products/pixley-berr...
its ok, but not a patch on old ribena, a few cubes of sugar should fix that...as i await root canal treatment!
I see Coke are playing games with the labelling, trying to fool us sugar fans. Previously the bright red label and red coloured cans and bottles were the visual cue that it was the full sugar version, but now this has morphed into the zero sugar version, replacing the previous black label zero sugar bottles. One to watch out for !
In related news, I discovered that the Coop sell the Coke Cherry full sugar 500ml bottles ! These are nigh on impossible to find in the big name supermarkets, all being the zero sugar aspartame and acesulfame potassium poison now, so I was delighted to find these rare beasts out in the wild and purchased a couple and thoroughly enjoyed their sugary goodness!
I think it's only a matter of time until ALL natural sugar drinks and banned from the shelves, under the guise of our government overlords keeping us "safe" from these dangers.
Can't be trusted to make our own decisions and choices over what we choose to put in our bodies.
In related news, I discovered that the Coop sell the Coke Cherry full sugar 500ml bottles ! These are nigh on impossible to find in the big name supermarkets, all being the zero sugar aspartame and acesulfame potassium poison now, so I was delighted to find these rare beasts out in the wild and purchased a couple and thoroughly enjoyed their sugary goodness!
I think it's only a matter of time until ALL natural sugar drinks and banned from the shelves, under the guise of our government overlords keeping us "safe" from these dangers.
Can't be trusted to make our own decisions and choices over what we choose to put in our bodies. TonyRPH said:
I've not been able to get Belvoir 100% Natural Orange Cordial locally (or online) for a month now.
Poor show!
Seek and ye shall find !Poor show!
https://www.ocado.com/products/belvoir-natural-ora...
If you clear and cookies and add a dot into your gmail address, you'll be seen as a new customer and receive a considerable percentage off your 'first' order
.CoolHands said:
I’m amazed it hasn’t appeared in food yet. Cant be long until you buy some chocolate muffins etc and it will have this s
t in it. Or Cadburys etc.
I have already seen sugar free biscuits with artificial sweeteners.t in it. Or Cadburys etc.There are also sugar free chocolates available, but I think there might be some issues with taste based on what I've read.
CoolHands said:
I’m amazed it hasn’t appeared in food yet. Cant be long until you buy some chocolate muffins etc and it will have this st in it. Or Cadburys etc.
Hundreds of products already use non glycemic sweetener. t in it. Or Cadburys etc.Birch, monkfruit, allulose and Stevia to mention a few.
When you say sh@t. Are you talking about the taste or the manufacturing of it? The manufacturing for many of those products is actually much more natural and ancestral than the white sugar most people use. Our palet has been align over the years to benefit western economy/farming.
M5-911 said:
Hundreds of products already use non glycemic sweetener.
Birch, monkfruit, allulose and Stevia to mention a few.
When you say sh@t. Are you talking about the taste or the manufacturing of it? The manufacturing for many of those products is actually much more natural and ancestral than the white sugar most people use. Our palet has been align over the years to benefit western economy/farming.
The biggest issue for me is aspartame, but the majority of the other artificial sweeteners give me acute headaches and aggravate my tinnitus.Birch, monkfruit, allulose and Stevia to mention a few.
When you say sh@t. Are you talking about the taste or the manufacturing of it? The manufacturing for many of those products is actually much more natural and ancestral than the white sugar most people use. Our palet has been align over the years to benefit western economy/farming.
I also don't like the taste of any product containing these artificial sweeteners.
As I mentioned earlier in the thread - why would manufacturers put aspartame in Lemsip of all products...? It's not as though it's the kind of product one would consume on a regular basis (there are other examples as well).
TonyRPH said:
M5-911 said:
Hundreds of products already use non glycemic sweetener.
Birch, monkfruit, allulose and Stevia to mention a few.
When you say sh@t. Are you talking about the taste or the manufacturing of it? The manufacturing for many of those products is actually much more natural and ancestral than the white sugar most people use. Our palet has been align over the years to benefit western economy/farming.
The biggest issue for me is aspartame, but the majority of the other artificial sweeteners give me acute headaches and aggravate my tinnitus.Birch, monkfruit, allulose and Stevia to mention a few.
When you say sh@t. Are you talking about the taste or the manufacturing of it? The manufacturing for many of those products is actually much more natural and ancestral than the white sugar most people use. Our palet has been align over the years to benefit western economy/farming.
I also don't like the taste of any product containing these artificial sweeteners.
As I mentioned earlier in the thread - why would manufacturers put aspartame in Lemsip of all products...? It's not as though it's the kind of product one would consume on a regular basis (there are other examples as well).
r3g said:
I think it's only a matter of time until ALL natural sugar drinks and banned from the shelves, under the guise of our government overlords keeping us "safe" from these dangers. Can't be trusted to make our own decisions and choices over what we choose to put in our bodies.
My sense is that the age of awareness for Ultra Processed Foods is nigh. We’re rushing into the meaty end of the twenty first century and it’s only a matter of time that a greater awareness of the link between diets of food manufacturing convenience and cost — with higher rates of obesity, heart issues, cognitive issues and cancer will alter attitudes to convenience foods and with it, a more enlightened food policy. Can't be trusted to make our own decisions and choices over what we choose to put in our bodies. M5-911 said:
I am not sure why they keep using aspartame these days
£££££££££££££££££Because it's a cheap to produce carcinogenic chemical and makes Tate & Lyle, Plater Group billions.
Even the highly corrupt WHO finally admitted a few months back that it was "possibly carcinogenic" which to anyone with more than 2 brain cells translates as "f
k yes, it will probably give you cancer, but we can't actually come out and say that because we don't want the fat brown envelopes from the manufacturers to stop after we fraudulenttly signed it off as safe for human consumption". Remember the WHO is also the same NGO behind the highly safe and effective vaccines. Join the dots.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-66057216
But we've known this for years as your body doesn't give you a banging headache/migraine 30 mins after having half a glass of something with it in unless it's extremely bad for you. What you body tells you overrules any "it's completely safe" patter from NGOs.
r3g said:
£££££££££££££££££
Because it's a cheap to produce carcinogenic chemical and makes Tate & Lyle, Plater Group billions.
Even the highly corrupt WHO finally admitted a few months back that it was "possibly carcinogenic" which to anyone with more than 2 brain cells translates as "fk yes, it will probably give you cancer, but we can't actually come out and say that because we don't want the fat brown envelopes from the manufacturers to stop after we fraudulenttly signed it off as safe for human consumption". Remember the WHO is also the same NGO behind the highly safe and effective vaccines. Join the dots.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-66057216
But we've known this for years as your body doesn't give you a banging headache/migraine 30 mins after having half a glass of something with it in unless it's extremely bad for you. What you body tells you overrules any "it's completely safe" patter from NGOs.
What is more disturbing is that people keep stuffing themselves with sugar drinks, sweets or other ready made products full of sugar despite prediabetic cases have been rising like no other medical conditions around the world. 1/3 of china is prediabetic, same for the US, UK is falling in the same trap and many more countries. NAFLD showing huge increase in the last few years. Makes aspartame look like a healthy option...lolBecause it's a cheap to produce carcinogenic chemical and makes Tate & Lyle, Plater Group billions.
Even the highly corrupt WHO finally admitted a few months back that it was "possibly carcinogenic" which to anyone with more than 2 brain cells translates as "f
k yes, it will probably give you cancer, but we can't actually come out and say that because we don't want the fat brown envelopes from the manufacturers to stop after we fraudulenttly signed it off as safe for human consumption". Remember the WHO is also the same NGO behind the highly safe and effective vaccines. Join the dots.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-66057216
But we've known this for years as your body doesn't give you a banging headache/migraine 30 mins after having half a glass of something with it in unless it's extremely bad for you. What you body tells you overrules any "it's completely safe" patter from NGOs.
Yes fructose itself (like most things for the human body including essential vitamins and minerals) is toxic for people in high doses. It’s an example of chronic toxicity, something that is damaging over time that will kill you slowly rather than acute toxicity like deadly nightshade, which will off you quickly.
If you are having a couple of sugary drinks a week, that isn’t an issue if your diet is otherwise healthy. If you are having 5 cups of coffee a day with 3 sugars each, eating desserts, treat yourself to a couple of donuts and a chocolate bar a day, your meals are ultra processed and contain extra sugar (including savoury meals) loaded with ingredients ending in *ose, and you mainly drink full sugar sodas, that going to a toxic load for many people.
Alcohol is processed by the same metabolic pathways in the liver, being made from sugar that is pre processed by 1 step (as the liver sees it), and so those pints you sink at the pub also count to this load.
Once your liver is borked, metabolic diseases start to creep in slowly at first, and once they establish, it opens up your body to all manner of things including cancer. It’s mainly an explosion in metabolic disease reversing life expectancy in countries like the US, with the UK following closely behind.
I think your sugar intake has to be moderated like alcohol, to be enjoyed responsibly, at least if you value your health.
If you are having a couple of sugary drinks a week, that isn’t an issue if your diet is otherwise healthy. If you are having 5 cups of coffee a day with 3 sugars each, eating desserts, treat yourself to a couple of donuts and a chocolate bar a day, your meals are ultra processed and contain extra sugar (including savoury meals) loaded with ingredients ending in *ose, and you mainly drink full sugar sodas, that going to a toxic load for many people.
Alcohol is processed by the same metabolic pathways in the liver, being made from sugar that is pre processed by 1 step (as the liver sees it), and so those pints you sink at the pub also count to this load.
Once your liver is borked, metabolic diseases start to creep in slowly at first, and once they establish, it opens up your body to all manner of things including cancer. It’s mainly an explosion in metabolic disease reversing life expectancy in countries like the US, with the UK following closely behind.
I think your sugar intake has to be moderated like alcohol, to be enjoyed responsibly, at least if you value your health.
Edited by wyson on Sunday 26th November 11:12
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