Soft drinks that don't contain artificial sweetners

[Mobile Chicane]

San Pellegrino ‘classic Italian taste’. I get it on subscription from Amazon but I’m sure I’ve seen it in supermarkets as well.

Ingredients
Water, Orange Juice from Concentrate (20%), Sugar, Carbon Dioxide, Orange Extract (0.1%), Acid (Citric Acid), Natural Orange Flavouring, Stabiliser (Pectins)

[wyson]

Appletiser.

Generally go for sparking water these days and a squeeze of lemon or lime. Plain San Pellegrino or Sparkling Evian.

I used to drink Diet Coke, but once they put Ace K in it, I had to drop it because it makes my face and lips puff up.

Started noticing an inflammatory response a lot of ultra processed drinks, including flavoured San Pellegrino, so try to stick to water, tea and coffee now.

Edited by wyson on Saturday 23 September 01:34

[bolidemichael]

If one was to stick with sparkling water, it may be best to experiment with ones that aren’t artificially carbonated. To my understanding, the addition of carbonic acid to a still water during production can irritate the stomach. Additionally, dentists urge caution about the over consumption of acidic beverages as they can erode enamel, over time.

There are natural mineral waters that are naturally carbonated. Not too many are available on our shelves, however, Aqua Carpatica is the only one that comes to mind.

However, a water that is rich in minerals can rival a soft drink for mouthfeel and satisfaction.

[wyson]

bolidemichael said:

If one was to stick with sparkling water, it may be best to experiment with ones that aren’t artificially carbonated. To my understanding, the addition of carbonic acid to a still water during production can irritate the stomach. Additionally, dentists urge caution about the over consumption of acidic beverages as they can erode enamel, over time.

There are natural mineral waters that are naturally carbonated. Not too many are available on our shelves, however, Aqua Carpatica is the only one that comes to mind.

However, a water that is rich in minerals can rival a soft drink for mouthfeel and satisfaction.

Badoit is another naturally carbonated water.

Definitely noticed your last point too. For still water, I prefer a low minerality water thats slightly acidic like Volvic, Highland Spring or Spa Reine. Carbonated versions of these waters aren’t very nice however. Much nicer if the TDS is over 200.

[bolidemichael]

wyson said:

bolidemichael said:

If one was to stick with sparkling water, it may be best to experiment with ones that aren’t artificially carbonated. To my understanding, the addition of carbonic acid to a still water during production can irritate the stomach. Additionally, dentists urge caution about the over consumption of acidic beverages as they can erode enamel, over time.

There are natural mineral waters that are naturally carbonated. Not too many are available on our shelves, however, Aqua Carpatica is the only one that comes to mind.

However, a water that is rich in minerals can rival a soft drink for mouthfeel and satisfaction.

Badoit is another naturally carbonated water.

Definitely noticed your last point too. For still water, I prefer a low minerality water thats slightly acidic like Volvic, Highland Spring or Spa Reine. Carbonated versions of these waters aren’t very nice however. Much nicer if the TDS is over 200.

I agree with all that; Badoit was officially discontinued on the UK market, due to the need to protect the source from depletion, but is still available from a few vendors.

[M5-911]

Best solution from my experience is to cut any form of sugar which has been added to a beverage or food.

A fresh glass of water with a lemon juice is fantastic.

[Mobile Chicane]

Wow I didn’t know that Badoit had been discontinued. I thought I hadn’t seen it in a while.

I really like naturally carbonated mineral waters, but have to go easy as they give me the rampant sts.

[bolidemichael]

That really does depend on the mineral content! Rich in Sulphates tends to promote a, erm, flushing of the digestive system.

[wyson]

Been reading up on the mineral waters out there because of this thread, it’s a dizzying array. Some are £30 a bottle. There seems to be a few water tasting courses like they have for wine and whiskey and water sommelier’s are a thing now too, paring water with food!

[bolidemichael]

Having done the courses, it’s mostly at the ‘discovery’ phase, with little continuous or universal assessment or even minimum qualification requirements.

Cost is not related to quality. The EU/UK regulations look after that for the consumer; Natural Mineral Waters are the most highly regulated foodstuff in the EU/UK, believe it or not. So long as that’s on the label, then the consumer need only be concerned with the mineral content.

Water sommelier in its current guise essentially means, ‘water enthusiast’.

Edited by bolidemichael on Saturday 23 September 22:28

[wyson]

Do you think a water sommelier will become a thing? Surely water doesn’t strong enough ‘flavours’ when paired with food?

[CoolHands]

TonyRPH said:

My O/H wanted some tonic water recently - and yes, it too has succumbed to artificial sweeteners.

She's struggling to find 'normal' tonic water!!

It's getting out of hand now.

It’s outrageous. I’m not being sarky I think this st is the devils work and honestly bad for us.

[bolidemichael]

wyson said:

Do you think a water sommelier will become a thing? Surely water doesn’t strong enough ‘flavours’ when paired with food?

Mineral salts affect the palate and the state of the palate dictates the experience with food and drink; however, without a language or standardised curriculum it’ll always be difficult to communicate effectively enough to be useful. There isn’t any overt flavour (perhaps salt or sulphur with enough quantities).

[r3g]

bolidemichael said:

wyson said:

Do you think a water sommelier will become a thing? Surely water doesn’t strong enough ‘flavours’ when paired with food?

Mineral salts affect the palate and the state of the palate dictates the experience with food and drink; however, without a language or standardised curriculum it’ll always be difficult to communicate effectively enough to be useful. There isn’t any overt flavour (perhaps salt or sulphur with enough quantities).

Veering off-topic here but staying with the water theme for a moment, I do fasting and so like many other fasters I have pink himalayan salt in the cupboard to keep up my electrolytes. But, putting it through my salt mill to grind it down so it dissolves in hot water, I find it makes quite a pleasant drink just with some standard chilled Tesco mineral water. I'm not a fan of water on its own as the absent taste annoys me, but a few turns of salt from my mill gives it a pleasant 'bite'. And it's very good for you in moderation too, with approx 80 different trace minerals. If you're going to try it don't go crazy with the salt unless you have a khazi close by . B&M sell it if you want some. Ignore that crap that Tesco do.

[bolidemichael]

r3g said:

bolidemichael said:

wyson said:

Do you think a water sommelier will become a thing? Surely water doesn’t strong enough ‘flavours’ when paired with food?

Mineral salts affect the palate and the state of the palate dictates the experience with food and drink; however, without a language or standardised curriculum it’ll always be difficult to communicate effectively enough to be useful. There isn’t any overt flavour (perhaps salt or sulphur with enough quantities).

Veering off-topic here but staying with the water theme for a moment, I do fasting and so like many other fasters I have pink himalayan salt in the cupboard to keep up my electrolytes. But, putting it through my salt mill to grind it down so it dissolves in hot water, I find it makes quite a pleasant drink just with some standard chilled Tesco mineral water. I'm not a fan of water on its own as the absent taste annoys me, but a few turns of salt from my mill gives it a pleasant 'bite'. And it's very good for you in moderation too, with approx 80 different trace minerals. If you're going to try it don't go crazy with the salt unless you have a khazi close by . B&M sell it if you want some. Ignore that crap that Tesco do.

Steering back on topic… minerals salts in water are extremely varied and as or more bioavailable to the body that any other foodstuff! I’ll stop hogging this thread, as I’m boring myself now!

[ZedLeg]

Wasn’t there a thread with a “water sommelier”?

I think it’s a load of st tbh, bottling and internationally shipping water for people to buy is one of capitalism’s biggest insanities.

Edited by ZedLeg on Sunday 24th September 09:05

[bolidemichael]

That was started by me. You’re welcome.

[TonyRPH]

Another product with Aspartame I discovered yesterday...

Sainsbury's Healthcare Paracetamol Effervescent Tablets x24 500mg

INGREDIENTS said:

Each tablet contains: Paracetamol 500 mg. Also contains Aspartame (E951) (a source of phenylalanine), and 438mg of sodium per tablet.

Why on earth do these companies feel the need to lace everything with Aspartame???

[vaud]

TonyRPH said:

Another product with Aspartame I discovered yesterday...

Sainsbury's Healthcare Paracetamol Effervescent Tablets x24 500mg

INGREDIENTS said:

Each tablet contains: Paracetamol 500 mg. Also contains Aspartame (E951) (a source of phenylalanine), and 438mg of sodium per tablet.

Why on earth do these companies feel the need to lace everything with Aspartame???

Because paracetmol is super bitter and it counters that in a effervescent format?

[TonyRPH]

vaud said:

Because paracetmol is super bitter and it counters that in a effervescent format?

So what happened to "add sugar to taste" like Lemsip etc?

Are we no longer allowed to judge just how sweet (or not as the case may be) we like something to taste?

I recently had a Lemsip (I initially missed that it too contained Aspartame) and it tasted way to sweet to my palate (and I like my sweet stuff) - it was sickly sweet.