Eating raw meat- Bad for you?

[dern]

ATG said:

Pedantry time ... "beef burger" ... the word is hamburger, derived indirectly from the city of Hamburg in Germany, just as Frankfuter derives from Frankfurt ... we wouldn't talk about a bleeding Porkfurter just to emphasise that the sausage isn't made up of blokes called Frank, so why do we talk about bloody beef burgers?

Just read this and will have to apologise to my 6 year old daughter and will have to concede that not everything she learns from watching scooby-doo is bks

[Wadeski]

Hamburgers ARE american...its the fact that it is served in a bun that seperates it from a myriad other ground beef steaks, and you have the Yanks to thank for that.

[dickymint]

I think you will find that most tartares and carpachios are actually "cooked" in marinades.

ETA: it's the raw egg you need to worry about.

Edited by dickymint on Saturday 23 February 10:13

[MentalSarcasm]

I'm impressed that we managed to get to the Ancient Greeks eating raw goat, to modern day hamburgers.

One of the many things I love about PH.

[dcw@pr]

dickymint said:

I think you will find that most tartares and carpachios are actually "cooked" in marinades.

ETA: it's the raw egg you need to worry about.

Edited by dickymint on Saturday 23 February 10:13

what do you cook tartar in?

raw mince/chopped steak + egg + capers+ onions etc, straight to the plate, no marinating at all...

also, the cooking effect you get from a marinade will be on the meat itself, it won't kill any nasties, it's the heat that does that

[dickymint]

dcw@pr" Target="_blank">class="forumQuoter">dcw@pr said:

dickymint said:

I think you will find that most tartares and carpachios are actually "cooked" in marinades.

ETA: it's the raw egg you need to worry about.

Edited by dickymint on Saturday 23 February 10:13

what do you cook tartar in?

raw mince/chopped steak + egg + capers+ onions etc, straight to the plate, no marinating at all...

also, the cooking effect you get from a marinade will be on the meat itself, it won't kill any nasties, it's the heat that does that

Original Tartare was eaten by the Tartares/Mongols. Raw meat with spices placed under their saddles and tenderised whilst they slaughtered their enemies! spices/salt/wine/lime juice....many things can cook without heat. There are many recipes, not all are "raw".

[dcw@pr]

dickymint said:

Original Tartare was eaten by the Tartares/Mongols. Raw meat with spices placed under their saddles and tenderised whilst they slaughtered their enemies! spices/salt/wine/lime juice....many things can cook without heat. There are many recipes, not all are "raw".

I'm not sure it would be fair to say "most tartars are cooked" - i've never seen one that is!

As for cooking without heat, yes it is possible, as I agreed, but although the meat will be cooked, you will not kill bacteria with lemon juices and spices...

[The Dude]

Carpaccio of beef - has to be one of my favourite foods in the world.

Had carpaccio veal in Italy too, equally delicious.

I don't believe there's anything intrinsically bad about eating raw meat but it certainly depends on the quality and preparation - probably a lot rides on your own constitution too.

Pretty common to get tapeworm from undercooked fish and pork though again, a reputable source and correct preparation is key.

Quite bizarrely, I have this childhood memory of my mum, when making breakfast, cutting off bits of pork sausage and eating it raw. The memory came back to me recently so I questioned my mum, wondering if I'd imagined it. She confirmed it and said she used to eat them raw pretty frequently. On the one hand, I can't imagine a worse thing to eat - we're talking about 30 years ago so these certainly weren't no premium-grade sausages. Then again, the were probably 60% rusk/water in those days so the actual amount of raw pork consumed was probably quite low. She never came to any harm anyway.