Market Harborough chippy sells frozen river fish as cod

Market Harborough chippy sells frozen river fish as cod

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Pothole

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Thursday 15th April 2010
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Sheets Tabuer

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Thursday 15th April 2010
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This story has me hooked.

Silent1

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236 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Good job he wasn't a sole trader.

Hugo a Gogo

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234 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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were you just trawling the net to find that story?

redtwin

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Thursday 15th April 2010
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Anyone tried this river cobbler batter fried?. If it was palatable (can't be that bad if it fooled his customers), sold at half the price of cod and being farm raised is sustainable, I wouldn't mind it.

Some chippy fish fillets are so thin that they mostly comprise of batter anyway, so I would be lying if I said I could identify a species of fish served by taste or appearance.

markreilly

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Thursday 15th April 2010
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Looks like the scales of just fish got him in the end...

Pothole

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Thursday 15th April 2010
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redtwin said:
Anyone tried this river cobbler batter fried?. If it was palatable (can't be that bad if it fooled his customers), sold at half the price of cod and being farm raised is sustainable, I wouldn't mind it.

Some chippy fish fillets are so thin that they mostly comprise of batter anyway, so I would be lying if I said I could identify a species of fish served by taste or appearance.
not very nice apparently http://www.scotcat.com/articles/article112.htm

They're also known as Panga

Pangas are teeming with high levels of poisons and bacteria, (industrial effluents, arsenic, and toxic and hazardous by-products of the growing industrial sector, polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs), DDT and its metabolites (DDTs), metal contaminants, chlordane-related compounds (CHLs), hexachlorocyclohexane isomers (HCHs), and hexachlorobenzene (HCB)). The reasons are that the Mekong River is one of the most polluted rivers on the planet and this is where pangas are farmed and industries along the river dump chemicals and industrial waste directly into it. A laboratory test on these fish showed high amounts of contamination. Despite the reports and recommendations against eating Pangas, supermarkets are still selling them to the general public knowing they are contaminated.

There’s nothing natural about Pangas - They’re fed dead fish remnants and bones, dried and ground into a flour, from South America, and also residue from soya and grains. This kind of nourishment doesn’t even remotely resemble what they eat in nature. But what it does resemble is the method of feeding mad cows (cows were fed cows, remember?) What they feed pangas is completely unregulated so there are most likely other dangerous substances and hormones thrown into the mix. The pangas grow at high speed - 4 times faster than in nature…so it makes you wonder what exactly is in their food?

Pangas are Injected with Hormones Derived from Urine – I don’t know how someone came up with this one out but they’ve discovered that if they inject female Pangas with hormones made from the dehydrated urine of pregnant women, the female Pangas grow much quicker and produce eggs faster (one Panga can lay approximately 500,000 eggs at one time). Essentially, they’re injecting fish with hormones (they come all of the way from a pharmaceutical company in China) to speed up the process of growth and reproduction. That isn’t good. Some of you might not mind eating fish injected with dehydrated human pee but just consider the rest of the reasons to NOT eat it.

Mmmm – maybe I’ll stick to fish fingers........

redtwin

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Thursday 15th April 2010
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Ah, well, since you put it that way.


bazking69

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Friday 16th April 2010
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The reason I only buy fish from the same chippy I have been using since I was a kid. I trust the owner. Not like some of these places run by crooks/gypos/foreigners.

Goughie

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190 months

Friday 16th April 2010
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Pangasius catfish - huge imports now coming into the UK. The new 'white fish'.

Hugo a Gogo

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Friday 16th April 2010
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they're selling 'pangasius' at supermarkets here in germany too, a bit vague
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangasius

perhaps it's this one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iridescent_Shark

Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Friday 16th April 20:34

zakelwe

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Sunday 18th April 2010
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markreilly said:
Looks like the scales of just fish got him in the end...
That's so bad I like it.

Seriously though the fines are too low, they should be so big it puts people out of business. It's simply fraud.

We only have ourselves to blame though, if we had managed the stocks it would still be cheap enough to not have greedy people take advantage.

Andy

Henry Hawthorne

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Sunday 18th April 2010
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Hugo a Gogo said:
they're selling 'pangasius' at supermarkets here in germany too, a bit vague
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangasius

perhaps it's this one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iridescent_Shark

Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Friday 16th April 20:34
I've had Pangasius before, it was delicious if a little bland as far as I remember.

redtwin

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Friday 23rd April 2010
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Don't know if anyone saw this, but food fighters programme yesterday had trading standards checking up on chippies that had been reported selling River Cobbler as cod. They also did a taste test with members of the public.

The River Cobbler won the taste test, but as you can imagine, no-one was happy about being misled and paying Cod prices for a "lesser" fish.

It is Episode 4 on BBC iPlayer if anyone is interested.


Simpo Two

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Friday 23rd April 2010
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Pothole said:
But what it does resemble is the method of feeding mad cows (cows were fed cows, remember?)
Ah yes, the one where we all went mad and died. I remember it well.

No doubt your post is technically correct but but it contains the '2+2=5' arguments so favoured by people with an agenda and little real science.

Pothole said:
Pangas are Injected with Hormones Derived from Urine... Some of you might not mind eating fish injected with dehydrated human pee but just consider the rest of the reasons to NOT eat it.
It's only chemicals. Urine is sterile. And what's with the Sudden Use of Capital Letters? Innocent copy and paste or simple scaremongering?

The real problem is that there are too many people. Unless you find new ways to feed them all, nature will win - famine.

zakelwe

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Saturday 24th April 2010
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Some other chippy has been caught, £1000 fine. That fine is too low.

Andy

Pothole

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Saturday 24th April 2010
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Simpo Two said:
Pothole said:
But what it does resemble is the method of feeding mad cows (cows were fed cows, remember?)
Ah yes, the one where we all went mad and died. I remember it well.

No doubt your post is technically correct but but it contains the '2+2=5' arguments so favoured by people with an agenda and little real science.

Pothole said:
Pangas are Injected with Hormones Derived from Urine... Some of you might not mind eating fish injected with dehydrated human pee but just consider the rest of the reasons to NOT eat it.
It's only chemicals. Urine is sterile. And what's with the Sudden Use of Capital Letters? Innocent copy and paste or simple scaremongering?

The real problem is that there are too many people. Unless you find new ways to feed them all, nature will win - famine.
actually Wikipedia said, all sudden us of capital letters and/or scaremongering completely out of my hands....

ThatPhilBrettGuy

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Saturday 24th April 2010
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Henry Hawthorne said:
I've had Pangasius before, it was delicious if a little bland as far as I remember.
How can it be delicious and a little bland?

CooperD

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Saturday 24th April 2010
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There's a time and plaice for this story.

whoami

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Saturday 24th April 2010
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Henry Hawthorne said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
they're selling 'pangasius' at supermarkets here in germany too, a bit vague
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangasius

perhaps it's this one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iridescent_Shark

Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Friday 16th April 20:34
I've had Pangasius before, it was delicious if a little bland as far as I remember.
Ah yes, deliciously bland.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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