Good whisky for around £50?

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Stu R

21,410 posts

216 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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highland park 18 year is a lovely tipple, falls somewhere between 50 and 60 quid a bottle iirc

jamiebae

6,245 posts

212 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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I'd avoid Islay if they're not really Whisky drinkers, although the Bruichladdich Rocks I'm drinking at the moment is lovely and not that peaty...

Highland Park is always a good bet, the 12 is great, the 18 is supposed to be even better. Something Speyside or Highland is probably a good introduction to Whisky, maybe a Dahlwhinnie or Macallan?

krallicious

4,312 posts

206 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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paulmurr said:
I've only tried this one from Japan and it's really rather nice smile
Try the 12yo. SO much better.

paulmurr

4,203 posts

213 months

Wednesday 28th April 2010
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Will do smile

Lefty Two Drams

16,163 posts

203 months

Wednesday 28th April 2010
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Just saw this!

Snail-boy, you're a cheeky fker... hehe

Arese, as much as I love Ardbeg (and get the pi$$ taken at every opportunity for being such a blatant fanboy), I wouldn't recommend it unless you know your intended recipients really like Islay whisky and the big Southerners in particular. It's an acquired taste and many "proper" whisky drinkers just plain don't like it.

There have been some excellent suggestions so far!

Talisker is a dram that has no haters (with very good reason).

Highland Park 18 is superb (and is £40+vat in Makro - very good value) and you'd get the special Reserve Cardhu for <£50 easily. It's a beaut as well.

Lagavulin is like Ardbeg in that if you don't know your mates like the heavily peated oily stuff it could be a risk.

I'd stick to Highland or Speyside if I were you. Have a look at Balvenie (probably my favourite speyside distillery but, IMHO, best to avoid the Doublewood.)

AnCnoc. The 16yo AnCnoc is awesome stuff, really undervalued and should be in your budget.

Macallan Fine Oak 15 is superb and one of the only distillery bottlings from this hugely popular brand that I actually like.

Mortlach 16 (Flora & Fauna) would be a great buy too, not sure if it's crept over £50 yet.

Dalwhinnie 15 is great and on-budget. It's creamy smooth with honey and lovely sweet barley but is still quite a light dram. Top stuff.

HTH!

Edited by Lefty Two Drams on Wednesday 28th April 08:52

Arese

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21,019 posts

188 months

Wednesday 28th April 2010
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Top stuff guys, really appreciate all your in-depth replies. You're a knowledgeable bunch.

I went for the Lagavulin in the end. I'm not 100% on their tastes, but hopefully it's something that we can drink together in a month or so. What's the best way to drink it? Just neat, no ice?

I had to go to two different Sainsburys' as the first one only had one bottle left irked

Lefty Two Drams

16,163 posts

203 months

Wednesday 28th April 2010
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Drink it whatever way you like it! If you enjoy it you're not wasting it.

Ice will numb your taste buds a bit but a sweet cool dram can be a very refreshing summer drink. Not sure it would work with Lagavulin!

I'd recommend drinking it at room temperature. Taste it neat then add a drop or two of water. Taste again and then add some more water. You should find the character of the whisky changes as the molecules separate. Keep doing this until you've finished the first dram. Take note of what ratio of whisky:water you enjoyed it the most and replicate this with your 2nd, 3rd, 10th dram. wink

Every whisky is different, every drinker is different. It's such a personal thing there is no right and wrong.

Enjoy!

Lefty
P.s. Good choice - I love Lagavulin 16 but some will no doubt hate it!

Arese

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21,019 posts

188 months

Wednesday 28th April 2010
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Lefty Two Drams said:
Drink it whatever way you like it! If you enjoy it you're not wasting it.

Ice will numb your taste buds a bit but a sweet cool dram can be a very refreshing summer drink. Not sure it would work with Lagavulin!

I'd recommend drinking it at room temperature. Taste it neat then add a drop or two of water. Taste again and then add some more water. You should find the character of the whisky changes as the molecules separate. Keep doing this until you've finished the first dram. Take note of what ratio of whisky:water you enjoyed it the most and replicate this with your 2nd, 3rd, 10th dram. wink

Every whisky is different, every drinker is different. It's such a personal thing there is no right and wrong.

Enjoy!

Lefty
P.s. Good choice - I love Lagavulin 16 but some will no doubt hate it!
Wow, I didn't realise it was such a science. I've always been put off by the strong taste of whisky, so I'm pleased to hear that adding a bit of water to it won't make me into some kind of heathen! I'll make sure I'm involved when the boys open their bottles, and let you know what we think of it.

Thanks again. thumbup

escargot

17,110 posts

218 months

Wednesday 28th April 2010
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Arese said:
Lefty Two Drams said:
Drink it whatever way you like it! If you enjoy it you're not wasting it.

Ice will numb your taste buds a bit but a sweet cool dram can be a very refreshing summer drink. Not sure it would work with Lagavulin!

I'd recommend drinking it at room temperature. Taste it neat then add a drop or two of water. Taste again and then add some more water. You should find the character of the whisky changes as the molecules separate. Keep doing this until you've finished the first dram. Take note of what ratio of whisky:water you enjoyed it the most and replicate this with your 2nd, 3rd, 10th dram. wink

Every whisky is different, every drinker is different. It's such a personal thing there is no right and wrong.

Enjoy!

Lefty
P.s. Good choice - I love Lagavulin 16 but some will no doubt hate it!
Wow, I didn't realise it was such a science. I've always been put off by the strong taste of whisky, so I'm pleased to hear that adding a bit of water to it won't make me into some kind of heathen! I'll make sure I'm involved when the boys open their bottles, and let you know what we think of it.

Thanks again. thumbup
I'm like you. The only way I can enjoy and therefore appreciate a big peaty islay whisky is with a couple of drops of water. It doesn't make you a heathen at all, if it's how you like it, it's how you like it. thumbup

easytiger123

2,595 posts

210 months

Thursday 29th April 2010
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krallicious said:
paulmurr said:
I've only tried this one from Japan and it's really rather nice smile
Try the 12yo. SO much better.
+1 for the Yamazaki 12yr old. Amazing stuff.

Lefty 200 Drams

16,163 posts

203 months

Thursday 29th April 2010
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easytiger123 said:
krallicious said:
paulmurr said:
I've only tried this one from Japan and it's really rather nice smile
Try the 12yo. SO much better.
+1 for the Yamazaki 12yr old. Amazing stuff.
Against public opinion here, I don't like it!

I mean, it's whisky so I'll still drink it...

wink


paulmurr

4,203 posts

213 months

Thursday 29th April 2010
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Lefty 200 Drams said:
easytiger123 said:
krallicious said:
paulmurr said:
I've only tried this one from Japan and it's really rather nice smile
Try the 12yo. SO much better.
+1 for the Yamazaki 12yr old. Amazing stuff.
Against public opinion here, I don't like it!

I mean, it's whisky so I'll still drink it...

wink
Careful Lefty, you'll get a reputation wink

Rab C Nesbitt said:
I can take a drink, or I can leave it.

But I'd sooner take it

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

183 months

Thursday 29th April 2010
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Lefty 200 Drams said:
easytiger123 said:
krallicious said:
paulmurr said:
I've only tried this one from Japan and it's really rather nice smile
Try the 12yo. SO much better.
+1 for the Yamazaki 12yr old. Amazing stuff.
Against public opinion here, I don't like it!

I mean, it's whisky so I'll still drink it...

wink
I'm not a fan either. It has all the right ingredients, but in a way that tastes like a mish-mash and not coherent.

paulmurr

4,203 posts

213 months

Thursday 29th April 2010
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HereBeMonsters said:
not coherent.
Yep, that's normally how I end up silly

krallicious

4,312 posts

206 months

Thursday 29th April 2010
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HereBeMonsters said:
Lefty 200 Drams said:
easytiger123 said:
krallicious said:
paulmurr said:
I've only tried this one from Japan and it's really rather nice smile
Try the 12yo. SO much better.
+1 for the Yamazaki 12yr old. Amazing stuff.
Against public opinion here, I don't like it!

I mean, it's whisky so I'll still drink it...

wink
I'm not a fan either. It has all the right ingredients, but in a way that tastes like a mish-mash and not coherent.
I can understand why some people do not like it. True, there are superior whiskies out there but, for me, it's a good bottle for when you just fancy a light, non complex dram. Some people have Macallen for that purpose.

My favorite Japanese whisky is the Hibiki 17yo. A fantastic blend. (The 30yo is supposed to be amazing but is silly, silly money)

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

183 months

Thursday 29th April 2010
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krallicious said:
HereBeMonsters said:
Lefty 200 Drams said:
easytiger123 said:
krallicious said:
paulmurr said:
I've only tried this one from Japan and it's really rather nice smile
Try the 12yo. SO much better.
+1 for the Yamazaki 12yr old. Amazing stuff.
Against public opinion here, I don't like it!

I mean, it's whisky so I'll still drink it...

wink
I'm not a fan either. It has all the right ingredients, but in a way that tastes like a mish-mash and not coherent.
I can understand why some people do not like it. True, there are superior whiskies out there but, for me, it's a good bottle for when you just fancy a light, non complex dram. Some people have Macallen for that purpose.
But that's the point. I think it's too complex. I have a very simple 10yo Hakushu which is all the things you describe.
To come clean I am basing this opinion of the Yamazaki on a single tasting, but I really felt it was muddled. My favourite "clean" and light whisky is Tobermory.

Lefty 200 Drams

16,163 posts

203 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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laugh

I don't think it's complex at all! Too sweet, too thin.

I'm no whisky snob - I love johnny walker black, teachers, vat 69, grants red label, black bottle and many other budget blends and malts.

For an easy-drinking or large-quantity everyday dram I'd be looking at one of those.

The Dude said:
it's just, like, my opinion man.
hehe


Muzzlehatch

4,724 posts

243 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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Here's a rather interesting comparison across more whiskies than you might care to shake a stick at:

http://www.whiskyfun.com/MaltManiacsMatrix.pdf

Personally, Gen Mhor and Tomatin are right up there for special ones.

For more general consumption, Dalwhinnie, Talisker and Laphroaig are great and have very different characters.