The bbq photo & recipe thread

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miln0039

2,013 posts

157 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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I seek the advice of PH....

I am quite experienced on the old BBQ, but nothing beyond a simple steak in the world of beef.

I've got a 1kg toprump joint to do on Sunday - there are 4 of us for dinner.

What ideas do people have of how to make it more exciting?! Any ideas would be received with great thanks.

Cheers,
Alex

Edited by miln0039 on Tuesday 25th September 18:39

pokethepope

2,655 posts

187 months

Sunday 23rd September 2012
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bicycleshorts said:
Well, I've decided I'm going to take the plunge and get a Weber. Been after one for a while, sick of using disposables and want to do some slow cooking. The tipping point was being at a friend's BBQ who has a Weber...

I'm looking at the 57cm One Touch Premium. I would get the Original, but I know I'll end up wanting the thermometer and split grill. Cheapest one I've found so far is: http://www.garden4less.co.uk/weber-one-touch-premi... (£145 with delivery).

Not in a great rush and the Wife says she'll buy me one for my birthday (November). I've noticed B&Q, Argos etc. don't have any of the premiums so not sure I'll get one in the sale. Going to hold out a bit till it's closer to £100... In the meantime, keep the tasty photos coming! lick

ETA: Actually, saying that, this is the one-touch original, isn't it? Tempting at this price... could just drill a hole for the Thermometer: http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3... .

Oh, damn, it's the 47cm. The search goes on! smile

Edited by bicycleshorts on Monday 17th September 12:16
The Ivory One Touch Original 57cm is back in stock at B&Q online, £55:
http://www.diy.com/nav/garden/outdoor-living/barbe...

croakey

1,193 posts

187 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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24oz of bbq'd goodness

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

160 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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pokethepope said:
The Ivory One Touch Original 57cm is back in stock at B&Q online, £55:
http://www.diy.com/nav/garden/outdoor-living/barbe...
Thanks for the headsup! I was bidding on a one touch premium on eBay hoping to get it for about £110 (£145 new)... Damn thing went for £160 not including delivery!

miln0039

2,013 posts

157 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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I did brisket...pictures to follow...

miln0039

2,013 posts

157 months

Tuesday 25th September 2012
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Well, I bought a rolled brisket on Saturday night (3.8lbs) in the realisation that Sunday was going to be crap weather so thought I might as well spend it with the BBQ. I did a lot of YouTubing etc to decide on method and recipes and honestly though I might have taken on a bit much for me and my One Touch Premium kettle....

You'll note I did the cook in my garage as the weather was even worse than expected. I had front and back doors open which meant it was a bit of a wind tunnel which made it slightly more challenging to maintain temperature of the fire.

Alas - here was my day:

Up at 8.30pm (unheard of on a Sunday when no driving can occur) and straight out to get the BBQ set up and sorted.

Step 1 - place an aluminium tray in the kettle, two bricks go as flush as possible against this and then using a wire coat hanger as a width guide, set the bottom vents just so:


Step 2 - create a bed of Weber briquettes with wood chunks (mesquite soaked overnight) and wood chips (hickory also soaked overnight) to one side of the bricks. Leave one end of the bed slightly less full (this is where the lit coals will go).


Step 3 - light a Chimney starter with about 10 briquettes in it. Add a liquid of choice to the aluminium tray... beer


Step 4 - get the pre rubbed brisket (I did mine the evening before) out of the fridge and let it come up to room temperature. I unrolled mine and created a rub using Salt, Brown Sugar, Black Pepper, Paprkia and Chilli. (It was perhaps over spiced slightly, next time I'd use only salt, pepper and brown sugar I think).


Step 5 - the briquettes should now be lit, so scatter them over one end of the bed of coals and wood created earlier and then pop the lid on. I left the top vents about 2/3s open.


Step 6 - give the fire some time to settle down and get the vents just so that the temperature will be controlled. I left my fire around 55-60 minutes before it really settled down to a temperature consistent in my range (ideally 200-240 Fahrenheit).


Step 7 - pop the meat on and then leave it to do its thing. I on average checked the fire every 20 minutes at first but this turned into every 45 minutes after a few checks and I saw the fire was maintaining a steady temperature. I put the meat on at 10.20am and decided I would foil when the internal temperature reached about 160oF (70ish in real money). This happened around about 3pm - so almost 5 hours into the cook.

You'll note that the fuel is about halfway through at this point.

Step 8 - foiling the meat. I popped the brisket in a Weber aluminium tray and gently doused both sides in Jack Daniels Hot Chilli BBQ Sauce. I then double covered the top and put the meat back on the heat. I then went to the pub for a few pints!

Step 9 - I toddled back from the pub at about 5.15pm and checked the internal temperature of the meat and how easily a fork would twist in the meat. The temperature was around about 195F and the meat was twisting and looking good.


Step 10 - At 6.00pm I took the meat off (so just short of 8 hours cooking time). I then triple wrapped the meat in foil and placed it in my oven (switched off but a good sealed unit) and left the meat in there to rest for around 90 minutes.

Step 11 - Take the bricks out of the BBQ, and the aluminium tins, open the bottom vents and give your coals around 20-30 minutes. My temperatures were then back up to around 200oC - so perfect for cooking sausages for some starters and roasted veg to go with the main meal. This was all still on the original fuel!


Step 12 - Eat! And to my shame, I FORGOT to take a picture at this point frown

If I am honest, it was a little drier than I'd have liked and I need to think of a way to avoid this next time, but the meat certainly was not tough and went down an absolute treat! It was a very rewarding cook and I was very impressed with how the kettle did when I thought only a Smokey Mountain could achieve such a cook!

I was also amazed that my coals could easily have maintained the slow cook for another 3 hours I think! The minion method is truly excellent!

I would appreciate any tips on how to maintain more moisture in the meat if anybody has any - next step I think will be pulled pork.

Thanks for reading and sorry for the very long post!!

Cheers,
Alex

Goa'uld

645 posts

201 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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The search is working praise the hamsters!

Anyway, came across this on the web and thought it needed to go on PH somewhere - just came back from Florida and made an effort to find proper places to eat, talking to people over there and sampling different sauces (including one place where a customer had brought his own unbelievable sauces with him to eat out) I'm just hooked on it and the sunday roast is going to be replaced with a piggy for some weeks to come.

The link explains different sauces and has recipes, I'm drooling going through it.

http://www.amazingribs.com/recipes/BBQ_sauces/bbq_...

nsi

329 posts

197 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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miln0039 said:
Well, I bought a rolled brisket - here was my day:
Amazing - good to see the BBQ lessons paying dividends. You're definitely the official Chef of Le Mans 2013. :-)

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

160 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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bicycleshorts said:
pokethepope said:
The Ivory One Touch Original 57cm is back in stock at B&Q online, £55:
http://www.diy.com/nav/garden/outdoor-living/barbe...
Thanks for the headsup! I was bidding on a one touch premium on eBay hoping to get it for about £110 (£145 new)... Damn thing went for £160 not including delivery!
Ended up ordering one of these. Didn't want to hang around for the premium and all the "good" weather abandon us!

Also ordered some Weber briquettes, firestarters and chimney starter from wowbbq.

Thinking beer can chicken to break it in smile

miln0039

2,013 posts

157 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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bicycleshorts said:
Ended up ordering one of these. Didn't want to hang around for the premium and all the "good" weather abandon us!

Also ordered some Weber briquettes, firestarters and chimney starter from wowbbq.

Thinking beer can chicken to break it in smile
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Good work - it's your fault it's raining now then?! wink

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

160 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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miln0039 said:
bicycleshorts said:
Ended up ordering one of these. Didn't want to hang around for the premium and all the "good" weather abandon us!

Also ordered some Weber briquettes, firestarters and chimney starter from wowbbq.

Thinking beer can chicken to break it in smile
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Good work - it's your fault it's raining now then?! wink
Sunny in Scotland! Though only because the damn thing hasn't arrived yet ranting

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

160 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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bicycleshorts said:
Sunny in Scotland! Though only because the damn thing hasn't arrived yet ranting
Look what just showed up! Also got my fiver delivery back from B&Q since it was a day late.



woohoo

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

181 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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Proper barbequeing on this thread. Epic.

We need a PH apron. "Everything else is just grilling."

crmcatee

5,691 posts

226 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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PH Speed Grills smile



Well first time I've cooked on a Weber and a mobile one at that- and very pleasant it was too albeit Propane.



miln0039

2,013 posts

157 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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HereBeMonsters said:
Proper barbequeing on this thread. Epic.

We need a PH apron. "Everything else is just grilling."
Yes yes yes!

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

160 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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Decided to break the Weber in last night with beercan chicken. Had a burger first in case the chicken didn't work!





Pretty damn tasty. Only issues I had:
- The rub I made had mixed spice, apparently what they actually menat mixed cinnamon so it was a bit overpowering.
- The start chimney took a little longer than expected, but it was still much faster than trying to light in the BBQ. Holding the flaming chimney while my mate lifted the grill also gave me an immense childish smile.
- I have no idea how to carve a chicken, so I left this to my mate, it then turned out he had no idea either.
- Pouring water on the coals to extinguish the coals was a mistake. Going to clean it out tonight hehe

miln0039

2,013 posts

157 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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bicycleshorts said:
- The start chimney took a little longer than expected, but it was still much faster than trying to light in the BBQ. Holding the flaming chimney while my mate lifted the grill also gave me an immense childish smile.
- I have no idea how to carve a chicken, so I left this to my mate, it then turned out he had no idea either.
- Pouring water on the coals to extinguish the coals was a mistake. Going to clean it out tonight hehe
Looks like you made a good start to Weber ownership!!

As for the extinguishing of coals - if you're using Weber Briquettes all I do is close the top and bottom vents fully and then leave it. The BBQ will starve of oxygen and the fire will cool down surprisingly quickly. You can then get a second burn out of some of the coals which are left more intact.

When you say your mate lifted the grill - do you mean you didn't put the chimney on the bottom coal grill and instead put it right on top? You shouldn't be putting the chimney starter on the cooking grill, get it on the next one down and hang the grill off the side, then you simply pop it in place after you've turned the chimney over!

As for the chimney time, for a full load of coals I usually allow 35 minutes or so for it to get full lit - how did your times compare with this?

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

160 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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miln0039 said:
Looks like you made a good start to Weber ownership!!

As for the extinguishing of coals - if you're using Weber Briquettes all I do is close the top and bottom vents fully and then leave it. The BBQ will starve of oxygen and the fire will cool down surprisingly quickly. You can then get a second burn out of some of the coals which are left more intact.

When you say your mate lifted the grill - do you mean you didn't put the chimney on the bottom coal grill and instead put it right on top? You shouldn't be putting the chimney starter on the cooking grill, get it on the next one down and hang the grill off the side, then you simply pop it in place after you've turned the chimney over!

As for the chimney time, for a full load of coals I usually allow 35 minutes or so for it to get full lit - how did your times compare with this?
All good tips, thanks thumbup

It was probably about 20-30 mins. Tbh, I think I was just impatient since I'm used to crappy disposable ones smile

pokethepope

2,655 posts

187 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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Yep about half an hour for me as well (to get it jet engine/furnace hot). A chimney is not really to speed up the lighting, but to make it 1000x more effective in getting every single piece fully lit compared with just piling them up.

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

160 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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pokethepope said:
Yep about half an hour for me as well (to get it jet engine/furnace hot). A chimney is not really to speed up the lighting, but to make it 1000x more effective in getting every single piece fully lit compared with just piling them up.
Good to know. Haven't tried lighting a proper coal BBQ without a starter before so wasn't sure what to expect. The coals came out looking great though, gave a nice even distribution of heat as well.

Think I'm going to drill a hole and fit a thermometer, had no idea what was going on so just left it for 80 mins. Checked temperature with a meat thermometer after that.