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Steameh

3,155 posts

210 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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Am thinking of my firt foray in to smoker/bbq.

Usually have had gas bbq's but I fancy something that imparts a fair amount of flavour. Strange time of year I know, but I have been meaning to get one for ages. I don't want to outlay a load of cash, so I was thinking about the Argos Deluxe kettle bbq (£34), a temp gauge for the outside(£12), some charcoal brickettes, a chimney starter and some flavoured wood chips.

My plan is to try and start with some chicken, with the aim of doing in a few weeks a pork butt for some pulled pork. I have read a few sites about hot smoking using kettle BBQ's, I guess my question is has anyone tried hot smoking? I know you need to set the coals to one side, have the smoke exit above the meat and have a tray full of water to take the drips. The times I've seen for pulled pork are around 12-18 hours depending on the size of the shoulder.

Anyone have any advice or tips (looking to buy this week)

escargot

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17,110 posts

217 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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Hi mate, you're in good company here - there are some seriously experienced contributors to this thread.

One thing I would say to you regarding the cheapy kettle barbie is; you'll have to replace it pretty soon as unlike buying a proper Weber, they really don't last. My view would be to invest the extra few quid and buy the largest kettle Weber you can. I've had mine for 3 years and it's lived outside uncovered throughout that time and it's still in perfect nick.

As regards to advice on smoking a joint like a pork shoulder - long and low is your friend. Over a certain temperature the smoke no longer penetrates the meat so you simply achieve a superficial smokey taste on the exterior, when what you really want is a deep smoked depth of flavour.

Secondly, you'll need a meat thermometer - big joints on the barbecue ought to be cooked to temperature and not time, anything in and around 165f is perfect.

Thirdly, don't forget to rest the meat for a decent period of time.

Finally, it can seem quite daunting to start with but barbecuing and smoking is actually quite forgiving as long as you get the temperature regulated properly - I find the best thing is the experimentation, so good luck!

Steameh

3,155 posts

210 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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Thanks for the reply, would this be a better option then;

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3...

Do you combine rubs with smoking as well then? I will have to invest in a decent meat thermometer. I am under no illusion that the first few times it might be a disaster, but the thought of a pull pork sandwich covered in slaw and bbq sauce is just too tempting not to try!

escargot

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17,110 posts

217 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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Steameh said:
Thanks for the reply, would this be a better option then;

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3...

Do you combine rubs with smoking as well then? I will have to invest in a decent meat thermometer. I am under no illusion that the first few times it might be a disaster, but the thought of a pull pork sandwich covered in slaw and bbq sauce is just too tempting not to try!
That would be much better and is a cracking buy at that price too.

Pulled pork isn't too difficult mate as long as you cook it low enough and to the correct temperature. It's a fatty enough cut of meat to survive without drying out if you cook it for a bit too long.

As regards to rubs, that's personal taste, I generally just knock up whatever I have to hand but inevitably it will include some basics like paprika, brown sugar, chilli powder, mustard power, salt, pepper etc etc.

Edited by escargot on Sunday 14th October 18:48

miln0039

2,013 posts

158 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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Steameh - get the best kettle you can and once you do have it just practice the art of maintaining a fire. Nothing too complex in the food with hot smoking, it's all about maintaining a fire as best you can!!

But I hope you take the plunge, it's the best investment I ever made smile

Shaolin

2,955 posts

189 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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If you can, go for the 57cm, it has 50% more cooking area than the 47cm and a lot more space under the lid.

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

161 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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croakey said:
2kg pulled pork at the right temp (240-270f) takes me about 5 1/2 - 6 hours as a guide (although I use an instant read to judge when it's cooked)
Looking to do some pulled pork for Halloween on Wednesday. Only issue is that I leave for work about 9 and don't get back home till 6. Would 9 hours be too long to slow cook?

croakey

1,193 posts

188 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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Last weekend... Couple of friends over STEAK NIGHT


The largest rib joint morrissons had cut into 3 rather manly steaks

Weber fired up - steaks on, merguez sausages on and smoked chilli sausages as a bonus


Brilliant night... It might be the October, the ground may be sodden, but fire up the chiminea and enjoy being outside!

miln0039

2,013 posts

158 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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Thinking about slow cooking some ribs next weekend. Familiar with the required prep I need to do but just wondering what people here do time and temperature wise? I will be using a Weber Kettle, minion method - would guess 200-240 Fahrenheit?

Advice appreciated!

Cheers,
Alex

andrewrob

2,913 posts

190 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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Has anyone tried cooking a Juicy Lucy? Saw it on man vs food the other week and I'm itching to do some at the next BBQ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlCaYKAKSp8

miln0039

2,013 posts

158 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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andrewrob said:
Has anyone tried cooking a Juicy Lucy? Saw it on man vs food the other week and I'm itching to do some at the next BBQ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlCaYKAKSp8
I've eaten many....that probably doesn't help?

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

161 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
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bicycleshorts said:
croakey said:
2kg pulled pork at the right temp (240-270f) takes me about 5 1/2 - 6 hours as a guide (although I use an instant read to judge when it's cooked)
Looking to do some pulled pork for Halloween on Wednesday. Only issue is that I leave for work about 9 and don't get back home till 6. Would 9 hours be too long to slow cook?
Anyone got any idea? Thinking top vent open, bottom lid 1/3 to 1/2 open and hoping not for rain!

Output Flange

16,798 posts

211 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
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bicycleshorts said:
Anyone got any idea? Thinking top vent open, bottom lid 1/3 to 1/2 open and hoping not for rain!
Depending on the size, 9 hours need not be a problem for cooking time.

The problem will come in keeping it warm enough while unattended for that long. Given the ambient temperatures are now in single figures, I suspect that even using the minion method you won't be able to keep the temp up for that long without adding more along the way.

miln0039

2,013 posts

158 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
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miln0039 said:
Thinking about slow cooking some ribs next weekend. Familiar with the required prep I need to do but just wondering what people here do time and temperature wise? I will be using a Weber Kettle, minion method - would guess 200-240 Fahrenheit?

Advice appreciated!

Cheers,
Alex
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Any indicative cooking times? smile

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

161 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
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Output Flange said:
bicycleshorts said:
Anyone got any idea? Thinking top vent open, bottom lid 1/3 to 1/2 open and hoping not for rain!
Depending on the size, 9 hours need not be a problem for cooking time.

The problem will come in keeping it warm enough while unattended for that long. Given the ambient temperatures are now in single figures, I suspect that even using the minion method you won't be able to keep the temp up for that long without adding more along the way.
Hmm, didn't really think of that. Will have a look in the shop tonight and see how much a shoulder is going to cost me before deciding whether to risk it or not.

Shaolin

2,955 posts

189 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
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bicycleshorts said:
Hmm, didn't really think of that. Will have a look in the shop tonight and see how much a shoulder is going to cost me before deciding whether to risk it or not.
I'd save it for the w/e or when you're around. It takes a little while to get the temp right and you'll have to add coals part way through. You may come home to something blasted but then gone cold hours ago, or something hardly cooked at all with loads of coals left that haven't burnt yet.

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

161 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
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Shaolin said:
bicycleshorts said:
Hmm, didn't really think of that. Will have a look in the shop tonight and see how much a shoulder is going to cost me before deciding whether to risk it or not.
I'd save it for the w/e or when you're around. It takes a little while to get the temp right and you'll have to add coals part way through. You may come home to something blasted but then gone cold hours ago, or something hardly cooked at all with loads of coals left that haven't burnt yet.
Hmm, possibly, but if I can get a cheap shoulder it's worth a go. Will see what the prices are like in Lidl etc. tonight smile

smack

9,728 posts

191 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
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andrewrob said:
Has anyone tried cooking a Juicy Lucy? Saw it on man vs food the other week and I'm itching to do some at the next BBQ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlCaYKAKSp8
Mmmm, cheesey goodness.

Stu R

21,410 posts

215 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
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andrewrob said:
Has anyone tried cooking a Juicy Lucy? Saw it on man vs food the other week and I'm itching to do some at the next BBQ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlCaYKAKSp8
Yep, thanks to the very same show (also tried the real thing in Minneapolis - they're ace) Piece of cake to make, give them a while in the fridge before cooking and they're less inclined to fall apart and look like roadkill. Ask me how I know...

miln0039

2,013 posts

158 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
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Stu R said:
(also tried the real thing in Minneapolis - they're ace)
As a former resident of Minneapolis I have to ask where you tried one? I used to go to "The Nook" for mine (St Paul technically) - sadly it burnt down.