Can you still give shandy to kids?
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I was just having a chat with a few of the guys in the office about Shandy (I work in Russia, they have no idea what it is). I was just saying how it is quite nice and refreshing if you fancy a drink but don't want something too alcoholic.
Anyway, this led me on to saying that when I was a kid, my grandad used to make me a shandy on Sundays as a treat with dinner. I'm sure I even had shandy at the pub too on those rare occasions my dad took me when I was but a wee lad (more than twenty years ago).
Anyway, it got me thinking, in this day and age of overzealousness, health and safety madness and political correctness gone mad, do you still give kids shandy? Or is it seen as something that will turn your little cherubs into future alcoholics or drug addled maniacs?
Anyway, this led me on to saying that when I was a kid, my grandad used to make me a shandy on Sundays as a treat with dinner. I'm sure I even had shandy at the pub too on those rare occasions my dad took me when I was but a wee lad (more than twenty years ago).
Anyway, it got me thinking, in this day and age of overzealousness, health and safety madness and political correctness gone mad, do you still give kids shandy? Or is it seen as something that will turn your little cherubs into future alcoholics or drug addled maniacs?
How old? Our kids all have wine at sunday lunch and weak shandy with a BBQ....but I'd be surprised if many kids under 10 would even like the taste (compared to a coke)
I drank in the same way as a kid and now have a beer or two a week and a few JD's at xmas - the idea of getting drunk .... as in, too drunk to drive, let alone "wasted" is alien to me.
I drank in the same way as a kid and now have a beer or two a week and a few JD's at xmas - the idea of getting drunk .... as in, too drunk to drive, let alone "wasted" is alien to me.
As kids, we were usually left sitting in the car outside the pub with a bottle of pop and a bag of crisps. A bit later on, I do remember being allowed a half of shandy (and being let out of the car to sit in the pub garden).
It's legal for 16 and 17 year olds to drink beer, cider or wine when they're dining in a pub.
It's legal for 16 and 17 year olds to drink beer, cider or wine when they're dining in a pub.
As already mentioned, you could buy a 16 or 17 year old a "pub" shandy with a meal. They still couldn't buy their own as a beer/lemonade shandy is still alcoholic and may well be over the .5% ABV threshold at which point a drink is classed as low alcohol or a soft drink. It's only when you get down to .05% ABV that drinks are classed as alcohol free.
21TonyK said:
As already mentioned, you could buy a 16 or 17 year old a "pub" shandy with a meal. They still couldn't buy their own as a beer/lemonade shandy is still alcoholic and may well be over the .5% ABV threshold at which point a drink is classed as low alcohol or a soft drink. It's only when you get down to .05% ABV that drinks are classed as alcohol free.
I'm sure the law was 18+ for ordering at the bar16+ for ordering yourself at a table with a sit down meal
5+ for a 'responsible adult' (parent or guardian) to buy and give to you with sit down meal
All at the License holder's discretion too, of course.
Stevenj214 said:
21TonyK said:
As already mentioned, you could buy a 16 or 17 year old a "pub" shandy with a meal. They still couldn't buy their own as a beer/lemonade shandy is still alcoholic and may well be over the .5% ABV threshold at which point a drink is classed as low alcohol or a soft drink. It's only when you get down to .05% ABV that drinks are classed as alcohol free.
I'm sure the law was 18+ for ordering at the bar16+ for ordering yourself at a table with a sit down meal
5+ for a 'responsible adult' (parent or guardian) to buy and give to you with sit down meal
All at the License holder's discretion too, of course.
As it stands the law is you cannot sell alcohol to an under 18 under any circumstances whatsoever, but an accompanying adult can buy a 16+ wine, beer, cider with a meal.
As you say, all at the license holders discretion. If anyone feels so inclined...
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/17/part/7...
musclecarmad said:
Tiggsy said:
How old? Our kids all have wine at sunday lunch and weak shandy with a BBQ....but I'd be surprised if many kids under 10 would even like the taste (compared to a coke)
I drank in the same way as a kid and now have a beer or two a week and a few JD's at xmas - the idea of getting drunk .... as in, too drunk to drive, let alone "wasted" is alien to me.
bloody hell, that's regimented I drank in the same way as a kid and now have a beer or two a week and a few JD's at xmas - the idea of getting drunk .... as in, too drunk to drive, let alone "wasted" is alien to me.
so you know that you will have a few JD's at xmas but not any other time - that's so regimented!
Bet you will save loads of money not drinking though so that's a bonus
Simpo Two said:
Worth noting that French children grow up drinking wine and don't all turn into drunken chavs. It depends on the culture endemic in the country. I suppose if you pay people to be unemployed and then give them 24-drinking hours, what do you expect?
Yes, it's fairly common to give kids watered down wine with a big meal here. I certainly advocate that mentality having seen how friends of mine took to alcohol in a messy way the minute they hit 18 having not been allowed any at all (unless illicitly procured).If children grow up with it in small and sensible quantities, it invariably means that they won't go quite so silly the minute they're of a legal age.
spikeyhead said:
God invented guinness so I wouldn't rule the world
My father-in-law, being Irish, has been a guinness drinker all his life. He moved to Lanzarote a few years ago and drinks Lager cos the black stuff's too heavy in the heat. He was visiting us a couple of weeks ago and we took him out for a couple of pints, he ordered a Guinness with a dash of lemonade. The barman and myself did a double take and a "WTF!" He asked again for a Guinness shandy. First attempt didn't go well, barman put the lemonade in first, as soon as the guinness hit it, it foamed up over the top of the pint glass and turned into a black milk shake.
Second attempt went better but still ended up with about 3 inches of foamy white head on it.
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