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drumsterphil
331 posts
93 months
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Are you sure? I toured with him in the mid '90s, he had a fanatical following then, plus groupies who followed him through Europe. Can't have been for his looks.
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I'll stand by my quote - he was a very well liked and reknowned drummer but it is only now post SYL that he is getting the mass attention that he deserves - he led the way for so long in metal and is finally receiving the rewards he deserves (personally hearing Individual Thought Patterns changed my life as to what was possible on drums.)
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Z06George
1,700 posts
59 months
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I have to say I thought Gene Hoglan is pretty average, he's good but seems like any other metal drummer to me. Also the fact that he's trigger to F  k and uses beat detective. I saw him at Sonisphere 2010 and thought again that he was off form, but to be fair so were the rest of the band IMHO.
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silvagod
598 posts
30 months
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Dave Grohl, underrated. Ginger Baker, overrated. /contentious 
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cuneus
5,472 posts
112 months
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Under rated
John Siomos RIP
(another frustrated wannabee drummer)
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blindmaninchains
311 posts
45 months
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drumsterphil said: If anybody saw the Dream Theatre auditions then completely under-rated has to go to Peter Wildoer who blew me away and should have got the gig (I did hear that Marco DID get the gig but then turned them down - whether that's true or not??...).
Derek Roddy has turned into a clinic bore now, which is a shame. Didn't like the hatchet job they did on Aquiles Priester either.... Gotta say, as a musician, but a non-drummer, Mangini would have been my choice. Can't imagine anyone turning up and then turnIng it down?
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Whitester
1,364 posts
26 months
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GnuBee
778 posts
85 months
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Overrated - Young Dave Weckl
Underated - Older Dave Weckl?
Overrated - the rock, metal, death metal genre appears to be full of overrated drummers where non-drummers look on and say "ooh fast must be good" or "ooh big kit, double bass 16ths; must be very good"
Personally I'd say Gavin Harrison is probably one of the most underated - as in not known of by a wider audience. He seems to be able to do the technical thing without making it only appreciable by other drummers. He's ability to play in bizzare time signatures and yet with feel and accessibility is something that many other drummers lack completely.
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6th Gear
1,234 posts
64 months
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Underrated
Will Calhoun, Living Colour
Matt Cameron, Soundgarden
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Finlandia
4,457 posts
101 months
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Been watching the Queen concert from Wembley 1986, Roger Taylor was very impressive.
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Ian Lancs
578 posts
36 months
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Spudler
2,261 posts
66 months
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silvagod said: Dave Grohl, underrated. I wouldn't say he's underrated, allways thought he's highly regarded as being up with the best of 'em.
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drumsterphil
331 posts
93 months
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blindmaninchains said: Gotta say, as a musician, but a non-drummer, Mangini would have been my choice.
Can't imagine anyone turning up and then turnIng it down? Roddy admitted that he only did the audition because he was asked - he had no interest in being DT's drummer. I first saw Mangini with Extreme and he was incredible - he is a very good fit for Deam Theatre. Another completely under-rated drummer is Dave McClain fromm Machine Head.
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Ray Luxury-Yacht
Original Poster
6,515 posts
86 months
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Spudler said: silvagod said: Dave Grohl, underrated. I wouldn't say he's underrated, allways thought he's highly regarded as being up with the best of 'em. He's a better singer 
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Animal
3,303 posts
138 months
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Ian Lancs said: Definitely my favourite!
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Podie
38,590 posts
145 months
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6th Gear said: Underrated
Matt Cameron, Soundgarden
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TheMighty
544 posts
81 months
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Ian Lancs said: But thats not the real Animal on the soundtrack. The real Animal was a much more impressive drummer and one I was very proud to have played with on quite a few occasions and was often my late night night drinking buddy on tour. The late Ronnie Verrell, was for me one of the greatest drummers of our time. He swung like no one else I've ever played with and was always a true character as well as a great musician. The real Animal can be heard in the famous drum battle with Buddy Rich: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_BmeBfV-O4&fea... There's quite a few video's of Ron and the real Animal on youtube these days it seems.
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james_gt3rs
2,585 posts
61 months
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Underrated - Brian Downey, from Thin Lizzy.
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cuneus
5,472 posts
112 months
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james_gt3rs said: Underrated - Brian Downey, from Thin Lizzy. You just made me play Sha La La
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realjv
341 posts
36 months
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In general good drummers are almost always overlooked unless they are particularly 'larger than life'/wild. Two drummers who I think are particularly good and interesting are Glen Kotche of Wilco and John Convertino of Calexico. Whilst very different in style both play to serve the song above all else. Wilco - I am Trying to Break Your Heart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-oimbtVdf4Calexico - Wash http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDat_7_ewiM
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ratbane
1,276 posts
86 months
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TheMighty said: But thats not the real Animal on the soundtrack. The real Animal was a much more impressive drummer and one I was very proud to have played with on quite a few occasions and was often my late night night drinking buddy on tour. The late Ronnie Verrell, was for me one of the greatest drummers of our time. He swung like no one else I've ever played with and was always a true character as well as a great musician. The real Animal can be heard in the famous drum battle with Buddy Rich: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_BmeBfV-O4&fea... There's quite a few video's of Ron and the real Animal on youtube these days it seems. RV was a good friend of mines drum teacher back in the day. Fantastic swing drummer.
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