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GetCarter
16,901 posts
149 months
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Out of interest, I occasionally record singers and have to use autotune (well it's manual re-tune actually)... 'cos they don't f  king sing in tune!
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Vipers
15,629 posts
98 months
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My view, most modern music is crap, too loud, cant understand the lyrics, and why do we need to watch a singer gyrating around the stage with a different camera angle every 3 seconds, or some bloody woman from the states putting a gun to her head. and flashing an old tit around. Went to rat s  t when Glenn Miller went AWOL.....  :0
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Murcielago_Boy
1,470 posts
109 months
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Yep - by and large, it's pretty s  t.
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CrabDan
568 posts
13 months
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Murcielago_Boy said: Yep - by and large, it's pretty s  t. to my mind anyone who says this simply hasn't made any effort.
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Condi
2,745 posts
41 months
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There is more music available now than at any time in our history, by factors of 10...
If you honestly cannot find new stuff which interests you on Youtube, Spotify, Soundcloud, BeatPort, LastFM, MySpace or where ever else you look then it says far more about you than about music.
Yes, most 'Top 40' is complete crap, but it honestly doesnt take longer than 5 minuets on Youtube to scratch the surface and see that a lot of good music is still produced.
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traffman
1,473 posts
79 months
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I wouldnt say that music is rubbish these days , everyone goes through it in varying stages . I remember my grandad saying the likes of KLF was s  t back in there heyday. I recently purchased the White room again on cd so i could remember decent dance! Ever since i purchased ride the lightening back in 1985 my taste diversified into mostly metal/thrash/extreme/black and doom metal. Since then i have mellowed , but i love radio two for the older music , still enjoy pet shop boys and depeche mode , eclectic i guess. Radio one is aiming there age of listeners younger and younger everyday , and seeming as there base is a million odd listeners each day they seem to have a major influence on the pop market which covers the young boy bands , light pop and the woo wooing of florence an her machines.
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Alfanatic
6,038 posts
89 months
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Isn't this the way with all things? You learnt about the world in your teenage years. That's what music is supposed to be like, that's what supercars are supposed to be like, movies, clothes (ok maybe not clothes), games, ways to entertain yourself.
Then when you do come across something that's new it sounds alien and isn't music, and the rest just sounds derivative.
That's just life, isn't it? Most of us are doomed to turn into our parents?
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GetCarter
16,901 posts
149 months
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er... most of the best music written so far was written in my great, great, great, great grandparents time, so no.
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Alfanatic
6,038 posts
89 months
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GetCarter said: er... most of the best music written so far was written in my great, great, great, great grandparents time, so no. I respect your experience and insight in the music industry so am interested to hear how you reached that conclusion? It does surprise me.
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GetCarter
16,901 posts
149 months
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Alfanatic said: GetCarter said: er... most of the best music written so far was written in my great, great, great, great grandparents time, so no. I respect your experience and insight in the music industry so am interested to hear how you reached that conclusion? It does surprise me. Pretty simple. If you can name a composer that I think is better than Bach, I'll eat not only my hat, but my car. ETA... this was in response to 'we all turn into our parents'... My parents got about as far as Vera Lynn and thought Bach was what dogs did.
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hornet
5,524 posts
120 months
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Johnnytheboy said: One thing that I didn't predict as middle age beckons is being utterly unmoved by forms of music being listened to be those younger than me. It all sounds bland and derivative to me now, whereas I was expecting to find it baffling and impenetrable by now.
My parents were horrified by my taste in music, I would frankly be relieved to be anything other than bored by my children's music. I'm finding exactly this with metal. So much of the stuff being lauded as heavy or intense these days just sounds watered down to my ears. Rather than being sat here aged 38 moaning that it's too heavy and/or nasty, I'm moaning it's not heavy or nasty enough! Nothing seems to have that edge or menace that (for example) death and Black Metal had 20 or so years ago. Everything now seems to be about how well you can do the textbook growl/clean/scream combo, but there's just no soul to any of it, it's all far too calculated and clinical. Angry people don't scream or growl in tune, which makes all those bands sound horribly contrived to me. I'll take a Chris Reifert or Martin Van Drunen over any note perfect "screamer" any day of the week.
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davepoth
20,186 posts
69 months
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hornet said: I'm finding exactly this with metal. So much of the stuff being lauded as heavy or intense these days just sounds watered down to my ears. Rather than being sat here aged 38 moaning that it's too heavy and/or nasty, I'm moaning it's not heavy or nasty enough! Nothing seems to have that edge or menace that (for example) death and Black Metal had 20 or so years ago. Everything now seems to be about how well you can do the textbook growl/clean/scream combo, but there's just no soul to any of it, it's all far too calculated and clinical. Angry people don't scream or growl in tune, which makes all those bands sound horribly contrived to me. I'll take a Chris Reifert or Martin Van Drunen over any note perfect "screamer" any day of the week. It's the same with any genre. The record companies have honed in on exactly what they know will sell, and then sell a lot of it. You need to look a bit harder for interesting things.
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motorizer
505 posts
41 months
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hornet said: I'm finding exactly this with metal. So much of the stuff being lauded as heavy or intense these days just sounds watered down to my ears. Rather than being sat here aged 38 moaning that it's too heavy and/or nasty, I'm moaning it's not heavy or nasty enough! Nothing seems to have that edge or menace that (for example) death and Black Metal had 20 or so years ago. Everything now seems to be about how well you can do the textbook growl/clean/scream combo, but there's just no soul to any of it, it's all far too calculated and clinical. Angry people don't scream or growl in tune, which makes all those bands sound horribly contrived to me. I'll take a Chris Reifert or Martin Van Drunen over any note perfect "screamer" any day of the week. My sentiments exactly...its got to the point where I'm not sure I actually like heavy metal any more (then I listen to something old and realise yes i do), most modern stuff just seems bland and soulless to me, stuff that is far less "heavy" than many modern bands just sounds so much more intense and menacing. and whats all that growling about, it just sounds like they're putting on a silly voice most of the time. Having said that there is still plenty of good music about
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ovlov60
Original Poster
83 posts
17 months
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hornet said: I'm finding exactly this with metal. So much of the stuff being lauded as heavy or intense these days just sounds watered down to my ears. Rather than being sat here aged 38 moaning that it's too heavy and/or nasty, I'm moaning it's not heavy or nasty enough! Nothing seems to have that edge or menace that (for example) death and Black Metal had 20 or so years ago. Everything now seems to be about how well you can do the textbook growl/clean/scream combo, but there's just no soul to any of it, it's all far too calculated and clinical. Angry people don't scream or growl in tune, which makes all those bands sound horribly contrived to me. I'll take a Chris Reifert or Martin Van Drunen over any note perfect "screamer" any day of the week. Agreed. I haven't found a new metal act that for me matches up to the likes of Carcass etc.
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sticks090460
424 posts
28 months
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Elderly
1,449 posts
108 months
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GetCarter said: Pretty simple. If you can name a composer that I think is better than Bach, I'll eat not only my hat, but my car. Beethoven.
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banksey
60 posts
42 months
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LongLiveTazio
2,549 posts
67 months
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Z06George
1,700 posts
59 months
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Murcielago_Boy
1,470 posts
109 months
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CrabDan said: to my mind anyone who says this simply hasn't made any effort. hmmmm, you could be right actually. Thing is, when I posted that, I was thinking primarily of pop music....
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