Gear WANT thread

[Baryonyx]

If a good, powerful clean tone is what you want to build your sound on, Fender are certainly worthy. Eric Johnson recommend that if you could only have one amp, a Fender was a good place to start as you could pile the grit on with distortion pedals and the like for screaming rock and metal sounds, but you can't do it the other way round. But the thing with amps is, unless you know the sound and function you're after, you're better off trying a few out with your own ears. Take your Digitech down to a shop, grab a similar guitar to yours and try a few amps out, as sometimes what you think you want a paper doesn't always work (like you found with the Marshall).


I think though, once you start messing with tube amps and you get a feel for the dynamic range and sound, you'll end up hooked and could ditch the pre-set synthetic sounds altogether (although I appreciate these are handy for practice and headphone sessions). I played through one of the Roland GA-212 in a shop, which is probably one of the better modelling amps around now, not including really top end stuff like the Axe FX Ultra. In the shop I thought "hey, this isn't bad, this stuff has really come on a long way". Then I tried out a Fender tube amp was so impressed with it I was adamant then that it was the only way forward! A good tube amp is still the real McCoy for me.


ETA: I remember when Mark Bass amps came out and took the bass world by storm. Everyone was suddenly talking about these stylish looking amps. And yeah, they had fantastic looks and branding which really made them stand out. I was almost in the mind of buying one, until I went to a shop and found that they all sounded distinctly average. So no amount of cool yellow colours and lightweight cabs was going to convince me to buy one!

Edited by Baryonyx on Monday 16th September 13:41

[JaymzDead]

Baryonyx said:

If a good, powerful clean tone is what you want to build your sound on, Fender are certainly worthy. Eric Johnson recommend that if you could only have one amp, a Fender was a good place to start as you could pile the grit on with distortion pedals and the like for screaming rock and metal sounds, but you can't do it the other way round. But the thing with amps is, unless you know the sound and function you're after, you're better off trying a few out with your own ears. Take your Digitech down to a shop, grab a similar guitar to yours and try a few amps out, as sometimes what you think you want a paper doesn't always work (like you found with the Marshall).


I think though, once you start messing with tube amps and you get a feel for the dynamic range and sound, you'll end up hooked and could ditch the pre-set synthetic sounds altogether (although I appreciate these are handy for practice and headphone sessions). I played through one of the Roland GA-212 in a shop, which is probably one of the better modelling amps around now, not including really top end stuff like the Axe FX Ultra. In the shop I thought "hey, this isn't bad, this stuff has really come on a long way". Then I tried out a Fender tube amp was so impressed with it I was adamant then that it was the only way forward! A good tube amp is still the real McCoy for me.


ETA: I remember when Mark Bass amps came out and took the bass world by storm. Everyone was suddenly talking about these stylish looking amps. And yeah, they had fantastic looks and branding which really made them stand out. I was almost in the mind of buying one, until I went to a shop and found that they all sounded distinctly average. So no amount of cool yellow colours and lightweight cabs was going to convince me to buy one!

Edited by Baryonyx on Monday 16th September 13:41

Cheers for the advice, I'll try a Fender amp when I'm next near a guitar shop, I've just never really associated them with the type of stuff I play but I'm totally open to trying them out. The reason I'm thinking about the HH is that a mate has one that he plays a Korg through and seems to get a nice sludgy, bluesy tone with it. It's a shame they seem to be getting rarer and rarer these days.

[Xandski]

scrubchub said:

Xandski said:

I'm saving for one of these at the moment...



I've wanted a Nitefly M for years after accumulating a few P-38s

After that I'm seriously considered a Blackstar HT100.

Where are you based? I know of someone who is selling an HT100 with a Marshall Cab for £500. He works in South Wales but lives, I think in Bath. I was going to buy it myself but my band is doing my head in and I don't want to spend money on gear when I may not be using it!

Speaking of which, my musical want at the moment is a new band! Maybe I should start a thread for 'musicians wanted'.....

I'm based in Ipswich at the moment but I've put a deposit on the Nitefly so will be rather skint for the next month or two Any amp would have to wait until I gauge how the new neighbours will react to having someone with a small studio living next to them or I can get some soundproofing put up.

[Fantuzzi]

JaymzDead said:

Baryonyx said:

If a good, powerful clean tone is what you want to build your sound on, Fender are certainly worthy. Eric Johnson recommend that if you could only have one amp, a Fender was a good place to start as you could pile the grit on with distortion pedals and the like for screaming rock and metal sounds, but you can't do it the other way round. But the thing with amps is, unless you know the sound and function you're after, you're better off trying a few out with your own ears. Take your Digitech down to a shop, grab a similar guitar to yours and try a few amps out, as sometimes what you think you want a paper doesn't always work (like you found with the Marshall).


I think though, once you start messing with tube amps and you get a feel for the dynamic range and sound, you'll end up hooked and could ditch the pre-set synthetic sounds altogether (although I appreciate these are handy for practice and headphone sessions). I played through one of the Roland GA-212 in a shop, which is probably one of the better modelling amps around now, not including really top end stuff like the Axe FX Ultra. In the shop I thought "hey, this isn't bad, this stuff has really come on a long way". Then I tried out a Fender tube amp was so impressed with it I was adamant then that it was the only way forward! A good tube amp is still the real McCoy for me.


ETA: I remember when Mark Bass amps came out and took the bass world by storm. Everyone was suddenly talking about these stylish looking amps. And yeah, they had fantastic looks and branding which really made them stand out. I was almost in the mind of buying one, until I went to a shop and found that they all sounded distinctly average. So no amount of cool yellow colours and lightweight cabs was going to convince me to buy one!

Edited by Baryonyx on Monday 16th September 13:41

Cheers for the advice, I'll try a Fender amp when I'm next near a guitar shop, I've just never really associated them with the type of stuff I play but I'm totally open to trying them out. The reason I'm thinking about the HH is that a mate has one that he plays a Korg through and seems to get a nice sludgy, bluesy tone with it. It's a shame they seem to be getting rarer and rarer these days.

Orange Dark Terror might be worth a look - There must be about 100 vids of Rob Chappers with one on youtube, but if you are more Doomy (So electric wizard, Sleep) than meta,l maybe try some of the Smaller companies like matamp or Electric in the states, or play with some laneys as they tend to have to kick with the smooth tone.

[Fantuzzi]

Baryonyx said:

Fantuzzi said:

Funnily enough I've never been an Ibanez fan, but then I haven't played anything other than say a mid ranged model, mostly loaded with EMGs, and always found the necks not as slick as some other rivals, will have to have a play on one of the higher spec one when I get the chance, haven't really heard a bad word against the higher spec ones!


Here is a rather cool vid of a Classic JEM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tuda_A_gKg

You'd definitely do well to check out a proper top end Ibanez, be it a Japanese one or one of the very well regarded LA Custom Shop models. Whether or not you particularly dig the way Ibanez do things, there is little arguing that they aren't one of the best guitars money can buy. In terms of necks, a satin finished Wizard neck must be one of, if not the fastest and smoothest neck out there. Combine that with their edge rolling process and they can make guitars that come off the rack feeling like they've been shaped by your hand over 20 years of dedicated playing! Dimarzo would be the classic Ibanez pickups for me - as mentioned above, EMG can be a bit of leveller in that they can make many a guitar or bass sound the same!

Add to that the fact that they just seem to get everything 'right' and you have a winner. I think their lineup overall has probably been the strongest of any manufacturer since the 80's. Not only did the RG and S series guitars appeal as a pinnacle of guitar design at the time, they have enjoyed a brilliant endorsing artist list for years (Satch, Vai, Gambale, Metheny, Benson, Holdsworth, Lane and then just about every nu metal band ever). They were also the go to place for 7 strings for many years and are still a market leader in that field.



One day I'd love an Ibanez, possibly an RV470...now as rare as a clean sheet in a nursing home!




That said, my favourite guitars are still probably Jackson Soloists. An SL2H in Rootbeer, a Soloist in Bengal Tiger or a Charvel 750XL would probably still rule the roost for me. Just because...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Skk9Q0Qd_k

Wizards are pretty Legendary, I think my dinky's neck is a 'little' fatter in width than the standard wizard, which is 19mm at the 1st and 21mm at the 12th fret, and no doubt a lot fatter than the super wizard at 19mm and 17mm!

EDIT! Just measured my dinky's neck, not sure how the measure it from the centre of the fret or the end, but seems to be 17 at the 1st and 19 at the 12! thought it felt good! And yes I have nothing to do...

Was looking at some forums on the dinky neck vs wizard, mixed bag except to say that the dinky's was similar. Really liking my neck on the Jackson.

I was looking to get the Soloist Jackson when I got my Dinky, the thing that put be off was the painted neck, really didn't want to have to go custom shop to avoid this- well I just couldn't afford to. So the dinky made sense.

I played on a New charvel so cal neck, really fat compared to other superstrats, and with the trem killing the sustain it didn't make a lot of sense to me, maybe it was badly set up, as I quite liked the one I played about 3 years ago.

Edited by Fantuzzi on Monday 16th September 14:47

[joesnow]

Love the Trussart guitars:
http://www.jamestrussart.com

Specifically:

[JaymzDead]

Fantuzzi said:

Orange Dark Terror might be worth a look - There must be about 100 vids of Rob Chappers with one on youtube, but if you are more Doomy (So electric wizard, Sleep) than meta,l maybe try some of the Smaller companies like matamp or Electric in the states, or play with some laneys as they tend to have to kick with the smooth tone.

Funnily enough I was looking at a Dark Terror, I was going for the vintage combos more on a cost basis as I can pick one up for 100-150 mark and not have to worry about sourcing a cab. But that's not to say I wouldn't be adverse to a 0% over 12 months deal on a package of a Dark Terror and a cab. The Matamps look sexy but a little out of my price range!

[Fantuzzi]

JaymzDead said:

Fantuzzi said:

Orange Dark Terror might be worth a look - There must be about 100 vids of Rob Chappers with one on youtube, but if you are more Doomy (So electric wizard, Sleep) than meta,l maybe try some of the Smaller companies like matamp or Electric in the states, or play with some laneys as they tend to have to kick with the smooth tone.

Funnily enough I was looking at a Dark Terror, I was going for the vintage combos more on a cost basis as I can pick one up for 100-150 mark and not have to worry about sourcing a cab. But that's not to say I wouldn't be adverse to a 0% over 12 months deal on a package of a Dark Terror and a cab. The Matamps look sexy but a little out of my price range!

Ah ok, yeah I think andertons and GAK have some 12 month 0% things, plus you can go and get say a 8 inch one of these

http://www.gak.co.uk/en/orange-ppc108/56764

And then get a proper 2x12/4x12 when you need one for shows. Or Go 2nd hand.

[JaymzDead]

Fantuzzi said:

Ah ok, yeah I think andertons and GAK have some 12 month 0% things, plus you can go and get say a 8 inch one of these

http://www.gak.co.uk/en/orange-ppc108/56764

And then get a proper 2x12/4x12 when you need one for shows. Or Go 2nd hand.

Thanks for that, just checked Andertons and they are offering the cab that matches the for 15% off if you order with the amp, so I might well go for that. Will have to pop in there at some stage and give the DT a try.

[Fantuzzi]

JaymzDead said:

Fantuzzi said:

Ah ok, yeah I think andertons and GAK have some 12 month 0% things, plus you can go and get say a 8 inch one of these

http://www.gak.co.uk/en/orange-ppc108/56764

And then get a proper 2x12/4x12 when you need one for shows. Or Go 2nd hand.

Thanks for that, just checked Andertons and they are offering the cab that matches the for 15% off if you order with the amp, so I might well go for that. Will have to pop in there at some stage and give the DT a try.

Yeah, I was friends with a stoner doomy rock chap, jammed a lot and was in a band with him, a lot of Orange fans in that genre, and they are massive tone nerds, all vintage tubes, thick heavy tones, Sunn amps and the like, so it says something about the sort of tone from the Orange amps.

They tend to be a little more distorted and fuzzier the oranges so would be good for more your tone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGAunX1EZ-U

Heres a vid

[6th Gear]

http://wildwestguitars.com/Sold%20Fender/dis-prod_...

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Tone Perfection.

[MitchT]

[Dr Z]

First I lusted after one of these:



Then, I lusted after this:



Now, I desperately want this:



I think I'm going mad! Wanting outdated designs more and more, although I'd quite happily swap the vintage trem in that CS '56 NOS to a modern two-point one.

[Fantuzzi]

MitchT said:

Some very Early Moog?

[Justin Cyder]

Dr Z said:

Now, I desperately want this:

Like. Greatest guitar ever designed so say the sales.

[Baryonyx]

Today I've been listening to a lot of UZEB and thinking on what a master Michel Cusson is. One of the most distinctive players around. You could tell they were serious from the look of them:



It's all about the air and sparkle Cusson has going on here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QD9y8fw9l8

So it would have to be a Godin Artisan ST-1 today. I'm sure John McLaughlin would approve too.

[Justin Cyder]

Reminds me, I must remember to record How it's made.

[Fantuzzi]

Dr z said:

That case is rather cool as well, love the way the velvet forms a imprint of the strings.

Now a case with a deep purple lining would be perfect for me.

[Justin Cyder]

Case is period correct more than anything else. By which I mean Fender cases are a bit shy on storage at the best of times.

[Fantuzzi]

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Justin Cyder said:

Fender cases are a bit shy on storage at the best of times.

This must be remedied, orange in that case looks great.