Not entertaining other types of music..

Not entertaining other types of music..

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Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

149 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Halmyre said:
This is what comes of working with Mancunian miserabilists for too long.
Four years, thirty odd years ago. But do carry on.

Halmyre

11,199 posts

139 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Justin Cyder said:
Halmyre said:
This is what comes of working with Mancunian miserabilists for too long.
Four years, thirty odd years ago. But do carry on.
Thank you, I shall. Four years was four years too long, and the passing of time does not diminish the pain (although I'm slightly gobsmacked that it was thirty years ago).

singlecoil

33,610 posts

246 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Justin Cyder said:
When it comes to excessively self regarding note smithery, I'm wholeheartedly with Johnny Marr.

Johnny Marr said:
There's a lot of guitar culture that I don't like at all. I find the traditional idea of the guitar hero to be really irrelevant to the 1990s. I don't think that young people are that impressed with some guy brandishing Spandex trousers and a hideously shaped guitar, playing that kind of masturbatory, egotistical noise. Being a soloist who wants to just display virtuosity is a dated philosophy, and I don't think there's any room for it in pop music. It's the last stand of late-'60s/early-'70s rockism, and it should have gone a long time ago.
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Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

149 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Halmyre said:
Thank you, I shall. Four years was four years too long, and the passing of time does not diminish the pain (although I'm slightly gobsmacked that it was thirty years ago).
I think you may have confused Johnny Marr with Morrisey, but in case not, then you're so wrong it's hard to fathom the sheer depths of your wrongness. Morrisey though, bit of a tt, fair enough.

robsco

7,829 posts

176 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Justin Cyder said:
Halmyre said:
Thank you, I shall. Four years was four years too long, and the passing of time does not diminish the pain (although I'm slightly gobsmacked that it was thirty years ago).
I think you may have confused Johnny Marr with Morrisey, but in case not, then you're so wrong it's hard to fathom the sheer depths of your wrongness. Morrisey though, bit of a tt, fair enough.
The correct spelling is Morrissey. In what way is he a tt? The man is arguably the greatest lyricist of our time, and not remotely the miserabilist that he is portrayed.

singlecoil

33,610 posts

246 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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robsco said:
Justin Cyder said:
Halmyre said:
Thank you, I shall. Four years was four years too long, and the passing of time does not diminish the pain (although I'm slightly gobsmacked that it was thirty years ago).
I think you may have confused Johnny Marr with Morrisey, but in case not, then you're so wrong it's hard to fathom the sheer depths of your wrongness. Morrisey though, bit of a tt, fair enough.
The correct spelling is Morrissey. In what way is he a tt? The man is arguably the greatest lyricist of our time, and not remotely the miserabilist that he is portrayed.
I agree with that


It's definitely arguable, and I would be on the other side of that debate motion.

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

149 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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I agree with that too. I also think there is no man in existence more in need of getting over himself than MorrisSey.

davidd

6,452 posts

284 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Getting back on track..

I like a load of music, but most Country, new, old, Western or otherwise makes me feel quite unwell.
The way I look at it, there is a ton of music that I love, why would I listen to something I don't like (more than once).


and back off track..

As for Mr Marr. Much as though I love him, he is as far up his own arse as any shredding thrash head.

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GetCarter

29,381 posts

279 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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kowalski655 said:
I think it sounds like the playerr is making it up as they go along
In jazz, generally the tunes are the same, it's just the bits in the middle that are different each time. wink It's the bits in the middle most look forward to hearing.

Having said that, I was a jazz musician for many years and hate most jazz.


conkerman

3,301 posts

135 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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I like the mags.

kowalski655

14,641 posts

143 months

selym

9,544 posts

171 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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robsco said:
The correct spelling is Morrissey. In what way is he a tt? The man is arguably the greatest lyricist of our time, and not remotely the miserabilist that he is portrayed.
You've plainly not heard the lyrical genius of Mika then?


All jokes aside, Morrissey WAS the greatest lyricist of my teens onwards. Just a shame I didn't realise until the end of my teens. Fatally flawed genius, in my opinion.

SWoll

18,378 posts

258 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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selym said:
robsco said:
The correct spelling is Morrissey. In what way is he a tt? The man is arguably the greatest lyricist of our time, and not remotely the miserabilist that he is portrayed.
You've plainly not heard the lyrical genius of Mika then?


All jokes aside, Morrissey WAS the greatest lyricist of my teens onwards. Just a shame I didn't realise until the end of my teens. Fatally flawed genius, in my opinion.
He does seem to be held in very high esteem, but despite numerous attempts over the years to understand why I'm still flummoxed.

And it's probably difficult to argue against the suggestion that he disappeared up his own arse many years ago. smile

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

149 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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SWoll said:
He does seem to be held in very high esteem, but despite numerous attempts over the years to understand why I'm still flummoxed.

And it's probably difficult to argue against the suggestion that he disappeared up his own arse many years ago. smile
You only have to look at his lyricism to see why. Here's a handy flow chart to get you started.


selym

9,544 posts

171 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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SWoll said:
He does seem to be held in very high esteem, but despite numerous attempts over the years to understand why I'm still flummoxed.

And it's probably difficult to argue against the suggestion that he disappeared up his own arse many years ago. smile
The magic of music. The infuriating attitude of Morrissey. I'd hate to meat (sic) him.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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This reminds me of my boss at work...
He claims to ONLY like Rock music, and within the Rock genre to only like AC/DC and a couple of other bands, and thats about it.

I was listening to my ipod in the office the other day and he asked me what I was listening to, and when I said 'modern Country', he burst out laughing.

I explained that I listened to a wide range of music, but mostly House/Dance, Rap/Hip Hop, modern Country, Indie, some Rock, RnB, and a bit of Jazz type stuff. He found that absolutely baffling and assumed that most people had one Genre they liked and stuck to it.

SWoll

18,378 posts

258 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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NinjaPower said:
This reminds me of my boss at work...
He claims to ONLY like Rock music, and within the Rock genre to only like AC/DC and a couple of other bands, and thats about it.

I was listening to my ipod in the office the other day and he asked me what I was listening to, and when I said 'modern Country', he burst out laughing.

I explained that I listened to a wide range of music, but mostly House/Dance, Rap/Hip Hop, modern Country, Indie, some Rock, RnB, and a bit of Jazz type stuff. He found that absolutely baffling and assumed that most people had one Genre they liked and stuck to it.
He's probably the kind of guy who 'if' he goes abroad on holiday immediately looks for the places that serve fish & chips and pizza?

I personally feel a little sorry for people with such a closed view as I always think they're missing out on so much good and interesting stuff. Each to their own I suppose.




Modern Country is fking awful though. smile

Edited by SWoll on Wednesday 1st October 22:16

SWoll

18,378 posts

258 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Purity14 said:
I listen to everything from Enya, to Bjork, to Metallica, to Dimmu Borgir.

What I cant stand, or listen to, is black gangster rap.
I find there is something to like in pretty much all genres TBH. NAS, Tupac, DMX etc. have all done some great stuff over the years IMHO.

Saying that, I do find some of the more extreme varieties of metal utterly unlistenable and would question whether they should even be classed as music...

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

149 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Anything. Baroque, Viennese waltz, soul, rock, indie, mostly indie actually, funk, jazz funk, jazz, pop, house, all of it. Except metal. Metal sucks. It's pantomime, mostly derivative, beloved by socially awkward teenagers who grow into angry middle aged paunchy men and it's always men btw, who look singularly unattractive with their thinning lank hair in black t-shirts emblazoned with some erstaz gothic script declaiming the virtues of the flaming turds of enmity or whoever this year's double kick seven string growl monkeys are.

Essentially, what I'm saying is any genre that contains a band called anal really isn't for grown ups. And neither could I care less if someone points out angrily that anal are this core or that post. It all pisses in the same pot to my cultured ears & it can do one. smile

vournikas

11,710 posts

204 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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I'd like to think I can find and accept the good things in [i]most[i] genres of music, whilst at the same time sorting out the shyte that - to my ears - isn't so good.

I have tried, however, listening to stuff from the likes of Godflesh / GWAR / Napalm Death and others I suppose you'd call "grindcore metal" and I cannot source a single redeeming feature.

Then again, music is such a broad church that one day I may chance upon a tune that sounds a bit like Slipknot on a bad day but has passages that float my musical boat.