Not entertaining other types of music..

Not entertaining other types of music..

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anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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SWoll said:
Modern Country is fking awful though. smile
See, I was never really much of a fan of of Country from the Kenny Rogers/Dolly Parton/Willie Nelson type era.

But I really enjoy the modern stuff. Florida Georgia Line can do no wrong by me! smile

These days it's all about jacked up trucks, smoking weed, getting drunk, fighting, banging women, with a fair bit of Rock/Rap thrown in for good measure.

Fantuzzi

3,297 posts

147 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Justin Cyder said:
Baroque
Wow I'm surprised, you managed to turn a good section of the thread onto a anti soloing topic, and then claim you like a period of music that was defined by its masses of insanely fast and complex violin solos by virtuosos...

What is it about a Vivaldi violin concerto that moves you, if the same thing is done on a guitar it is self indulgent and repulsive?

I'm actually curious rather than being a dick...

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

150 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Admit it, it is being a dick that motivated that post. It's ok, we both know.

Fantuzzi

3,297 posts

147 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Justin Cyder said:
Admit it, it is being a dick that motivated that post. It's ok, we both know.
No I genuinely want to see what you find so repugnant in virtuoso solo work on the guitar, yet find in so enthralling when its on a harpsichord?

I mean the Baroque musicians were massively shreddy, insanely so. The Baroque movement (in both art, music and architecture) was defined by its ostentatious, vainglorious excess, something that you hate in music with electric guitars, so I just wondered why.


GetCarter

29,404 posts

280 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Fantuzzi said:
No I genuinely want to see what you find so repugnant in virtuoso solo work on the guitar, yet find in so enthralling when its on a harpsichord?

I mean the Baroque musicians were massively shreddy, insanely so. The Baroque movement (in both art, music and architecture) was defined by its ostentatious, vainglorious excess, something that you hate in music with electric guitars, so I just wondered why.
Aghhhhhhhhhhh. Not true. I like baroque music more than any other (having done rock/pop/jazz etc), and have written quite a lot (I am writing some at the moment for Warner Bros). You are, I assume, taking Vivaldi and probably one movement from 'The Four Seasons' and assume all baroque is like that. Try some Handel or Bach. Beautifully crafted counterpoint. Very little baroque is anything to do with fast virtuoso violins.

To even talk about guitar solos in the same sentence is ....just not cricket!

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

150 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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I always heard a steady pulse in the bass of Baroque which appeals & the frequent theme of loud & quiet which I gather is known as terraced dynamics. Nirvana for orchestra if you like. I wouldn't equate it with some spandex clad look at me brandishing a BC Rich Warlock in a million years.

Elderly

3,497 posts

239 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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GetCarter said:
Fantuzzi said:
I mean the Baroque musicians were massively shreddy, insanely so. The Baroque movement (in both art, music and architecture) was defined by its ostentatious, vainglorious excess, ........
Aghhhhhhhhhhh. Not true. I like baroque music ............Try some Handel or Bach. Beautifully crafted counterpoint. Very little baroque is anything to do with fast virtuoso violins.
Current academic research into performance practice suggests that Fantuzzi is correct and he is definitely correct about the ethos of baroque style in general (which was started by young people with huge amounts of inherited wealth). Steve, musically he is probably talking about executants in the baroque period whilst you are talking about two (great) composers from the very end of the period.

We know almost nothing about tempi before the age of reason but we do know that Affects were highly important; from the expression of melancholy (with the aid of obscure temperaments) at one end, to whatever aided pure speed at the other.



robsco

7,838 posts

177 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Justin Cyder said:
SWoll said:
He does seem to be held in very high esteem, but despite numerous attempts over the years to understand why I'm still flummoxed.

And it's probably difficult to argue against the suggestion that he disappeared up his own arse many years ago. smile
You only have to look at his lyricism to see why. Here's a handy flow chart to get you started.

I do like that. smile

GetCarter

29,404 posts

280 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Elderly said:
Current academic research
Enough said. I can give you thousands hours of Baroque that isn't manic violins. It started as a show off, but grew up. Bach and Handel being probably the greatest composers of the period.

Hope your son is doing well?


Edited by GetCarter on Thursday 2nd October 15:13

Elderly

3,497 posts

239 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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GetCarter said:
Hope your son is doing well?


Edited by GetCarter on Thursday 2nd October 15:13
Thanks, yes - after recently finishing his last West end run as Composer, M.D. and performer, he's just flown off to do some shows in Singapore and Australia.
On his return he's composing/M.D. for a show at IIRC the West Yorkshire Playhouse;
all a bit of a come-down after Broadway biggrin.

GetCarter

29,404 posts

280 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Elderly said:
hanks, yes - after recently finishing his last West end run as Composer, M.D. and performer, he's just flown off to do some shows in Singapore and Australia.
On his return he's composing/M.D. for a show at IIRC the West Yorkshire Playhouse;
all a bit of a come-down after Broadway biggrin.
Great stuff. Good work that man.

hairyben

8,516 posts

184 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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Small mindedness can be annoying but at least the single-minded know what they like and love it and I can appreciate that.

What really grinds my gears is the opposite:

"yeah, i love music, me"

cool what do you like

"I like everything"

yeah but whats your favourite, your go-to stuff

"I like everything"

selym

9,544 posts

172 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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hairyben said:
Small mindedness can be annoying but at least the single-minded know what they like and love it and I can appreciate that.

What really grinds my gears is the opposite:

"yeah, i love music, me"

cool what do you like

"I like everything"

yeah but whats your favourite, your go-to stuff

"I like everything"
Alan Partridge -'I'd have to say....Best of The Beatles'

Eric Mc

122,058 posts

266 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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Over the years my taste in music has widened and stuff I would have loved 30 years ago I tend to listen to far less frequently.

Up until the late 1980s I was mainly a rock and pop man. I loved the singles chart and followed the charts avidly. I was also a huge Beatles fan and devoured everything to do with them. Since then, I have grown a bit tired of the stuff that excited me back then, including the Beatles

Things started to change for me from around 1985 when I made a deliberate attempt to listen to some classic and orchestral music and found I really liked it.
I also am more interested in folk and traditional Irish music than I used to be.
My participation in musicals, operettas and operas has awakened in me a love of the trained singing voice and can really appreciate what it takes to be an operatic soprano or tenor - having worked with such people on stage and been gobsmacked by their power and range.

In more recent years I have returned a bit to the 70s but now listen to the great album groups and singers of that era that I hadn't really paid that much attention to when I was a teenager - acts such as Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, Mike Oldfield etc.

Having gone through so many musical metamorphoses, I have to say the one group that I fell in love with in the early 1970s and has never waned as far as listenability is concerned is "The Moody Blues". I can still listen to any of their classic albums without tiring of them.

Hoofy

76,399 posts

283 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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Emotions and associations can be important to music. Some people will say some artist is a musical genius but I'll still think it's a crock of ste. Current example: Ed Sheeran. Apparently, he makes £100k a week from his music. Everytime I hear his middle class rapping I cringe.

StuntmanMike

11,671 posts

152 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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selym said:
Alan Partridge -'I'd have to say....Best of The Beatles'
Wings....only the band the Beatles could have been....

TheAngryDog

12,409 posts

210 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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I like all sorts of music. EDM, DubStep, Indie, Rock and so on..

Would hate to think I could only ever like one genre...

vinnie01

863 posts

120 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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from my point of view i listen almost exclusively to rock music in classic, punk, because its what i identify with i like some slightly odd stuff like Dropkick Murphys and Flogging Molly but on the most part its punk bands and your classic stuff like Lynrd Skynrd ACDC Thin izzy Iron maiden ect

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

138 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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I used to know someone that only liked U2.

I enjoy most types of music apart from metal/heavy rock etc...

Simes205

4,544 posts

229 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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I'm a music teacher and listen to everything. Except the south London gangsta st the kids listen to (and PoP!)!