Glastonbury 2015 thread

[mantis84]

MarshPhantom said:

Agreed, says a lot about Glastonbury if Lionel Richie is the highlight of the weekend.

It really doesn't. I printed out the line up before I went this year. It came to over 90 pages - plenty more than just one or two big names to enjoy.

[MarshPhantom]

mantis84 said:

MarshPhantom said:

Agreed, says a lot about Glastonbury if Lionel Richie is the highlight of the weekend.

It really doesn't. I printed out the line up before I went this year. It came to over 90 pages - plenty more than just one or two big names to enjoy.

But it is pretty poor if Lionel is the highlight of the main stages. I know there's loads to do there but I thought this year's big names were rather lame.

I went a few times in the 90s and looking at the line up from two of those years the Pyramid Stage artists were far more interesting. Nevermind all the great stuff on the NME stage too.

1994

Oasis
Black Crowes
Stones Roses - Pulled out, replaced by Pulp.
Jamiroquai
Boo Radleys
Jeff Buckley
The Cure
Simple Minds
Page and Plant


1995

Rage Against the Machine
Beck
St. Etienne
World Party
Paul Weller
Elvis Costello
James
Ride
Radiohead
Peter Gabriel
Johnny Cash

[Dr Murdoch]

MarshPhantom said:

But it is pretty poor if Lionel is the highlight of the main stages. I know there's loads to do there but I thought this year's big names were rather lame.

I went a few times in the 90s and looking at the line up from two of those years the Pyramid Stage artists were far more interesting. Nevermind all the great stuff on the NME stage too.

1994

Oasis
Black Crowes
Stones Roses - Pulled out, replaced by Pulp.
Jamiroquai
Boo Radleys
Jeff Buckley
The Cure
Simple Minds
Page and Plant


1995

Rage Against the Machine
Beck
St. Etienne
World Party
Paul Weller
Elvis Costello
James
Ride
Radiohead
Peter Gabriel
Johnny Cash

I agree with you point but....

I thought I went in 95 and the Prodigy came on after the Oasis on the other stage?

Man, was it the help to keep me going at the time, or is it old age thats the problem?!

[MarshPhantom]

Dr Murdoch said:

MarshPhantom said:

But it is pretty poor if Lionel is the highlight of the main stages. I know there's loads to do there but I thought this year's big names were rather lame.

I went a few times in the 90s and looking at the line up from two of those years the Pyramid Stage artists were far more interesting. Nevermind all the great stuff on the NME stage too.

1994

Oasis
Black Crowes
Stones Roses - Pulled out, replaced by Pulp.
Jamiroquai
Boo Radleys
Jeff Buckley
The Cure
Simple Minds
Page and Plant


1995

Rage Against the Machine
Beck
St. Etienne
World Party
Paul Weller
Elvis Costello
James
Ride
Radiohead
Peter Gabriel
Johnny Cash

I agree with you point but....

I thought I went in 95 and the Prodigy came on after the Oasis on the other stage?

Man, was it the help to keep me going at the time, or is it old age thats the problem?!

Just pulled this off wiki, my memories of the early 90s are rather hazy.

[Dr Murdoch]

MarshPhantom said:

Just pulled this off wiki, my memories of the early 90s are rather hazy.

Same here to be fair, I thought I went in 95, 97 and 98 with a year off in 96 (went to Phoenix). 95 was the 25th anniversary and I think Oasis and Prodigy played the other stage. Like you, I wouldn't be sure enough to bet my house on!

[mantis84]

MarshPhantom said:

But it is pretty poor if Lionel is the highlight of the main stages. I know there's loads to do there but I thought this year's big names were rather lame.

I went a few times in the 90s and looking at the line up from two of those years the Pyramid Stage artists were far more interesting. Nevermind all the great stuff on the NME stage too.

1994

Oasis
Black Crowes
Stones Roses - Pulled out, replaced by Pulp.
Jamiroquai
Boo Radleys
Jeff Buckley
The Cure
Simple Minds
Page and Plant


1995

Rage Against the Machine
Beck
St. Etienne
World Party
Paul Weller
Elvis Costello
James
Ride
Radiohead
Peter Gabriel
Johnny Cash

Each to their own I suppose - what one person sees as a highlight might not excite another person. From what the slightly older generation tell me, the festival has changed quite a lot since the 90's, so perhaps we've had fairly different experiences (I've only been the last two years), but for me what makes the festival isn't necessarily the big name acts or the lineup in general, there's so much more to it than that. I certainly intend to go every year if I can get a ticket, even if there isn't anything I like on any of the main stages. I guess the lineup suffered somewhat when Foo Fighters had to pull out, but there were still some genuinely brilliant acts on the Pyramid and elsewhere - Alabama Shakes, Courtney Barnett, Patti Smith, Mary J Blige, The Libertines, Weller, etc. All down to personal taste (and dare I say, advancing age and a fondness towards nostalgia) I guess!

[MarshPhantom]

mantis84 said:

Each to their own I suppose - what one person sees as a highlight might not excite another person. From what the slightly older generation tell me, the festival has changed quite a lot since the 90's, so perhaps we've had fairly different experiences (I've only been the last two years), but for me what makes the festival isn't necessarily the big name acts or the lineup in general, there's so much more to it than that. I certainly intend to go every year if I can get a ticket, even if there isn't anything I like on any of the main stages. I guess the lineup suffered somewhat when Foo Fighters had to pull out, but there were still some genuinely brilliant acts on the Pyramid and elsewhere - Alabama Shakes, Courtney Barnett, Patti Smith, Mary J Blige, The Libertines, Weller, etc. All down to personal taste (and dare I say, advancing age and a fondness towards nostalgia) I guess!

Nothing to do with nostalgia, I didn't see any of the bands I've listed above when I was there.

It just seems that the artists they book has gone from alternative/well respected bands and musicians to Radio 2/Heart/Magic FM friendly artists.

[Adam B]

MarshPhantom said:

Nothing to do with nostalgia, I didn't see any of the bands I've listed above when I was there.

It just seems that the artists they book has gone from alternative/well respected bands and musicians to Radio 2/Heart/Magic FM friendly artists.

You seem to be judging Glastonbury by Lionel, who played the traditional 4pm Sunday slot reserved for old crooners who, given their experience and showmanship, tend to be a surprise hit. It is a welcome tradition after 3 days of hitting it hard for 3 days and nights and a bit of fun, but never my highlight.

That said its the way of modern music/X factor generation, that it is getting harder to find enough headliners of suitable stature (a brief conversation I had a booker this year). That said Glasto remains THE festival for weird and wonderful bands that covers every possible taste

[MarshPhantom]

Adam B said:

MarshPhantom said:

Nothing to do with nostalgia, I didn't see any of the bands I've listed above when I was there.

It just seems that the artists they book has gone from alternative/well respected bands and musicians to Radio 2/Heart/Magic FM friendly artists.

You seem to be judging Glastonbury by Lionel, who played the traditional 4pm Sunday slot reserved for old crooners who, given their experience and showmanship, tend to be a surprise hit. It is a welcome tradition after 3 days of hitting it hard for 3 days and nights and a bit of fun, but never my highlight.

That said its the way of modern music/X factor generation, that it is getting harder to find enough headliners of suitable stature (a brief conversation I had a booker this year). That said Glasto remains THE festival for weird and wonderful bands that covers every possible taste

Rolf Harris was the Sunday oddball one year I went.

[mantis84]

Adam B said:

You seem to be judging Glastonbury by Lionel, who played the traditional 4pm Sunday slot reserved for old crooners who, given their experience and showmanship, tend to be a surprise hit. It is a welcome tradition after 3 days of hitting it hard for 3 days and nights and a bit of fun, but never my highlight.

That said its the way of modern music/X factor generation, that it is getting harder to find enough headliners of suitable stature (a brief conversation I had a booker this year). That said Glasto remains THE festival for weird and wonderful bands that covers every possible taste

Agreed re suitable headliners - there really aren't that many left I can think of that fit the bill and who haven't already headlined. AC/DC, Elton John and Prince (who apparently might have done it this year but pulled out, hence the late addition of The Who) are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head who could do it. Foo Fighters are pretty likely for next year, but who know who else they'll get.

[egor110]

mantis84 said:

Agreed re suitable headliners - there really aren't that many left I can think of that fit the bill and who haven't already headlined. AC/DC, Elton John and Prince (who apparently might have done it this year but pulled out, hence the late addition of The Who) are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head who could do it. Foo Fighters are pretty likely for next year, but who know who else they'll get.

Blur, kasabian,biffy clyro,muse could all headline.

[Driver101]

egor110 said:

Blur, kasabian,biffy clyro,muse could all headline.

Blur are way over the hill in my opinion.

Kasabian have headlined too many festivals and everyone who does festivals has seen them headline. Their last album was poor which doesn't help.

[Adam B]

Er Kasabian headlined last year, Muse did in 2010

People need to just accept the music industry does not produce U2s / Princes / Madonnas and artists of that stature any more, rock offers more longevity with the Foos and Muse type bands

AC/DC would be big enough (though not my taste), Prince would be incredible but always resists due to objections to BBC coverage, personally I would love Daft Punk after their last album, Farrell tocome as guest and kiss their feet

[pincher]

Adam B said:

Prince would be incredible but always resists due to objections to BBC coverage

What's the score there? Has he got a gripe with the BBC?

[mantis84]

As I understand it, he's a really difficult bd to negotiate with. Apparently he's been asked to do it before, rumours got out that he was going to do it so he backed out because he thought the festival was using his name to sell tickets before he'd been booked (notwithstanding that it usually sells out the day tickets go on sale without any line up announcement - this year they sold out in 30 minutes). This year he was up for it again, but pulled out again because of the negativity around the Kanye West petition etc. He sounds like a right massive throbber if you ask me!

[Adam B]

pincher said:

What's the score there? Has he got a gripe with the BBC?

No, but if you headline you have to agree to BBC airing the performance in full, and some artists have attitudes about image rights etc and want to control output. Imagine if Prince did a Madonna, got a tugged cape and fell flat on his arse - he would have no rights to edit it out. All a bit silly IMHO

See the mighty Future Islands on iplayer (and I recommend you do), first song lead singer trips arse over tit over a floor speaker, laughs it off and cracks on, but you don't get to edit that stuff out

Edited by Adam B on Sunday 12th July 02:41

[zygalski]

Ganglandboss said:

How quintessentially English is that?

[egor110]

Adam B said:

pincher said:

What's the score there? Has he got a gripe with the BBC?

No, but if you headline you have to agree to BBC airing the performance in full, and some artists have attitudes about image rights etc and want to control output. Imagine if Prince did a Madonna, got a tugged cape and fell flat on his arse - he would have no rights to edit it out. All a bit silly IMHO

See the mighty Future Islands on iplayer (and I recommend you do), first song lead singer trips arse over tit over a floor speaker, laughs it off and cracks on, but you don't get to edit that stuff out

Edited by Adam B on Sunday 12th July 02:41

The singer from future islands is pretty enique though, I couldn't work out if he was pissed,on acid,having a stroke or what , but I had to watch there entire set.

After going thru old footage it turns that's just how he is.

[pincher]

Adam B said:

pincher said:

What's the score there? Has he got a gripe with the BBC?

Stuff that I didn't know

Nice one - thanks for that

[MarshPhantom]

mantis84 said:

As I understand it, he's a really difficult bd to negotiate with. Apparently he's been asked to do it before, rumours got out that he was going to do it so he backed out because he thought the festival was using his name to sell tickets before he'd been booked (notwithstanding that it usually sells out the day tickets go on sale without any line up announcement - this year they sold out in 30 minutes). This year he was up for it again, but pulled out again because of the negativity around the Kanye West petition etc.

He sounds like a right massive throbber if you ask me!

Because he doesn't do stuff he doesn't want to do and isn't a publicity hungry muppet?

Fair play to him.