Raves /Rave Culture

[technodup]

nitrodave said:

Any decent music fetival is a rave which and accessible to all.

Eurgh, I've been to raves all over the UK and Europe and would never go to a music festival.

Rave was a scene, a culture and a religion for many. Music, dress, drugs, you were either into it or you weren't. Music festivals cater for everyone- TITP will have a dance tent, a metal tent, a hip hop tent etc. Glastonbury had Dolly Parton last year ffs. On the same stage as Kasabian and Ed Sheeran. Ed fking Sheeran.

The OP wanted original rave, I'd recommend staying as far away from music festivals as possible. Thousands of mainstream dweebs getting pissed in a field with Ed Sheeran?

Check Youtube videos of Rezerection, anything at the Sanctuary, Fantazia Donnington etc and compare them to Edith Bowman chatting pish with Caro Emerald on BBC2 backstage at Glasto.

[entropy]

technodup said:

urgh, I've been to raves all over the UK and Europe and would never go to a music festival.

Rave was a scene, a culture and a religion for many. Music, dress, drugs, you were either into it or you weren't. Music festivals cater for everyone- TITP will have a dance tent, a metal tent, a hip hop tent etc. Glastonbury had Dolly Parton last year ffs. On the same stage as Kasabian and Ed Sheeran. Ed fking Sheeran.

The OP wanted original rave, I'd recommend staying as far away from music festivals as possible. Thousands of mainstream dweebs getting pissed in a field with Ed Sheeran?

Check Youtube videos of Rezerection, anything at the Sanctuary, Fantazia Donnington etc and compare them to Edith Bowman chatting pish with Caro Emerald on BBC2 backstage at Glasto.

Tribal Gathering? Creamfields?

[technodup]

entropy said:

Tribal Gathering? Creamfields?

When was the last Tribal Gathering? I was talking about things he could go to.

As for Creamfields with it's Radio 1 tie in and Pepsi sponsorship it's about as far removed from the original rave vibe as it's possible to be.

When people are suggesting these in answer to the OPs question I think it's an impossible one to answer. That scene is (sadly) gone.

ETA: having read it again if 94-00 is the time and clubbing was in the question maybe Creamfields isn't such a daft idea. A st, horrible and commercial one, but it might fit the bill.

[Condi]

technodup said:

ETA: having read it again if 94-00 is the time and clubbing was in the question maybe Creamfields isn't such a daft idea. A st, horrible and commercial one, but it might fit the bill.

Possibly earlier, I dont remember! Being 6 in 1994 it was when I started to like music and work out what I liked and didnt, so that period of time was quite formative.


Done Creamfields, Global Gathering, SW4 etc in the past. They're fun, but lots of 'EDM' stuff - what I would call pop music, and a lot of people going who really have no idea about much of the music they're listening too. Might go to the festival to see one headliner they've heard of on R1. Dunno, just get the feeling something is lacking, possibly something which was around in earlier times...

[technodup]

Condi said:

Done Creamfields, Global Gathering, SW4 etc in the past. They're fun, but lots of 'EDM' stuff - what I would call pop music, and a lot of people going who really have no idea about much of the music they're listening too. Might go to the festival to see one headliner they've heard of on R1. Dunno, just get the feeling something is lacking, possibly something which was around in earlier times...

Exactly my point. ste.

I go back to my previous point.

Same (breakbeat) music, same crowd, smaller scale = Fantazia
Different (gabber/hardcore) music, similar crowd, massive scale = Holland

I love it all from 91-96. I'm not called technodup for nothing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKgoj9K3dlg

If there's any alternatives to Fantazia in England I'm all ears. Fancy another road trip.

[tobinen]

The psy-trance scene still has outdoor events with locations announced at short notice. I quite the tunes though it's not everyone's cuppa.

[Studio117]

Used to love proper raves/free parties in my late teens/early 20's.

Wouldn't go now though. Feel too much like a crusty!

Stick to legal venues now but will only go for Hawtin/Saunderson/Jeff Mills type stuff usually.

Although I'm liking bass heavy house a lot these days.

[jogger1976]

I started going around early 95', and even then it was getting a bit crap due the inflatration of criminal gangs (The Essex Boys were heavily involved by this time) and the rise of lad culture,where people were more interested in kicking off than having a good time.
My cousins probably enjoyed the golden period, between 89 and 93, doing the whole M25 thing and Ibiza before it became too commercialised.
You can still attend free parties, as they are known, and an acquaintance frequents these around the Bucks/Northants/Beds/Cambs area. I did consider going to one, but they only seem to play stty trance, which I hate and I've heard the Police crack down on them pretty hard, following some serious criminal damage at an event in Cambs last year.

[Otispunkmeyer]

technodup said:

xactly my point. ste.

I go back to my previous point.

Same (breakbeat) music, same crowd, smaller scale = Fantazia
Different (gabber/hardcore) music, similar crowd, massive scale = Holland

I love it all from 91-96. I'm not called technodup for nothing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKgoj9K3dlg

If there's any alternatives to Fantazia in England I'm all ears. Fancy another road trip.

Wow dancing to that must have your heart on the edge of exploding. Fierce tempo!

Just watched the fantazia set you posted earlier (or whoever it was)at donny. They wheeled out a 3 hear old girl on stage because it was her birthday. WTF must she have been thinking was going on and I wonder what kind of impression a thousand gurning faces left on her.

[Stinkfoot]

Only did one - World Dance at Lydd back in the 90's. Awesome !

[technodup]

Otispunkmeyer said:

Wow dancing to that must have your heart on the edge of exploding. Fierce tempo!

Probably around 170, I normally play around 180-185 but have been known to hit 200. Any more than that you're into speedcore and it gets a bit mental. Some events used to have a wee room for speedcore and you'd be up around 3-400bpm. They just danced at half speed.

[Otispunkmeyer]

Some nice pictures from 88-92 of the rave scene. Enjoy.

http://mashable.com/2014/11/15/acid-house-raves/?u...

[tobinen]

Otispunkmeyer said:

Some nice pictures from 88-92 of the rave scene. Enjoy.

http://mashable.com/2014/11/15/acid-house-raves/?u...

Memories...

[SWoll]

Hoofy said:

Um. Those two YT clips were nothing like the music I tended to listen to back in the day. (Or earlier this year when I was going through a phase. )

https://youtu.be/TZjICj8pkpE

Christ, talk about a blast from the past. Wasn't at Donnington for this but had friends that were. I do remember buying the tapes for it from The Depot in Brum and playing them till they wore out though.

Brilliant stuff, thanks for that.

[gizlaroc]

Went to loads of parties in East Anglia from the summer of '89 through to '93, then it went more to clubs.

Some of the warehouse parties were the best nights, carpet city in Cambridge was great, the Hyperbolics were always good, then you had the legal stuff like Proper Stuff, Eclipse, Energy which were also great but not the same as the illegal venues.

[jogger1976]

Otispunkmeyer said:

Some nice pictures from 88-92 of the rave scene. Enjoy.

http://mashable.com/2014/11/15/acid-house-raves/?u...

Absolute top quality stuff. Cheeky bonus of a Plod 24v Senator at 38 seconds

[Hoofy]

SWoll said:

Hoofy said:

Um. Those two YT clips were nothing like the music I tended to listen to back in the day. (Or earlier this year when I was going through a phase. )

https://youtu.be/TZjICj8pkpE

Christ, talk about a blast from the past. Wasn't at Donnington for this but had friends that were. I do remember buying the tapes for it from The Depot in Brum and playing them till they wore out though.

Brilliant stuff, thanks for that.

I still have a few tapes!

[Adam B]

technodup said:

uGlastonbury had Dolly Parton last year ffs. On the same stage as Kasabian and Ed Sheeran. Ed fking Sheeran.

The OP wanted original rave, I'd recommend staying as far away from music festivals as possible. Thousands of mainstream dweebs getting pissed in a field with Ed Sheeran?

it is possible to like more than 1 type of music without being a "dweeb" - in defence of Glastonbury I have had some great times in their Shangri-La and Block 9, excellent dance music and crowd. It is very separate from the main stages. (although I was a clubber from 92-96 and I am not a hard techno fan)

[big dub]

My club, back in the day, was Shelley's Lazerdome in Stoke-on-Trent.

Fantastic club and had the big DJ's and Live PA's of the day: Daz Willot, Stu Allen, Nipper, Sasha, N-Joi and many more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhH976ozufY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fLoRb9LcUk