What's going on with trance music?
Discussion
MitchT said:
There's plenty of melodic trance around, just don't look to the big name DJs, they're busy chasing the big bucks of 'trendy trance' rather than playing real trance. I always enjoy The Thrillseekers 'Night Music' podcast for a great variety of trance including plenty of dreamy melodic stuff. Here's a couple of gems that I discovered via said podcast ...
https://youtu.be/Oiu5NbmUazE
https://youtu.be/ojhr_PMkZsM
Pretty good.https://youtu.be/Oiu5NbmUazE
https://youtu.be/ojhr_PMkZsM
Here's some stuff I like that's a bit more uplifting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU4rleTxYIw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oklOf5NvWHo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBIBwihQ1-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0u3osQ6cDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxABAicGD4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNqajrERQi8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD1CinHgrOM
Me like arpeggios.
funkyrobot said:
Yes. It sounds like some sort of crash bang techno.
I think this sums it up nicely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCawU6BE8P8
I think this sums it up nicely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCawU6BE8P8
As a listener and amatuer DJ I was a big trance fan from the mid 90s, frequenting trance / hard house clubs on a weekly basis listening to, in my opinion the very best of the trance period. One of my very favourite DJs from then was John OO Flemming, he always rocked the place (Slinky, Creation, Bristol).
I tried to sustain this past the early 00s with the likes of Tiesto - In search of sunrise compilations, AvB etc but the sound was changing back then to either a harder or more commercial vibe and I took a different path towards progressive and tech, Satoshi Tommiie, Lawler, Digweed etc as that reflected more of the sound I wanted to hear.
This also wained and as the deep house movement began I again switched allegances, we all know what soon happened to deep house, commercialised to the nth degree!
I rarely have time to listen to music anymore, a young baby has put paid to that but even when I do get a moment, there is so much out there now it's hard to find something new that I like and revert to updating podcasts from the likes of Hernan Cattaneo and Noir in the hope that they've something to entertain me.
Those comparison videos perfectly sum up my opinion, melodies, build up and progression seem to have been utterly removed from tracks now, instead they seem an assualt on the ears and in your face from the get go. Maybe it's a reflection of current culture and patience, nobody seems to have any patience anymore, everything is at our finger tips the minute we want it and that's what clubbers want too, an instant aural assualt.
I used to like the statement that house music was created by robots with feelings, now it seems to be made to numb the senses.
I tried to sustain this past the early 00s with the likes of Tiesto - In search of sunrise compilations, AvB etc but the sound was changing back then to either a harder or more commercial vibe and I took a different path towards progressive and tech, Satoshi Tommiie, Lawler, Digweed etc as that reflected more of the sound I wanted to hear.
This also wained and as the deep house movement began I again switched allegances, we all know what soon happened to deep house, commercialised to the nth degree!
I rarely have time to listen to music anymore, a young baby has put paid to that but even when I do get a moment, there is so much out there now it's hard to find something new that I like and revert to updating podcasts from the likes of Hernan Cattaneo and Noir in the hope that they've something to entertain me.
Those comparison videos perfectly sum up my opinion, melodies, build up and progression seem to have been utterly removed from tracks now, instead they seem an assualt on the ears and in your face from the get go. Maybe it's a reflection of current culture and patience, nobody seems to have any patience anymore, everything is at our finger tips the minute we want it and that's what clubbers want too, an instant aural assualt.
I used to like the statement that house music was created by robots with feelings, now it seems to be made to numb the senses.
Matt_N said:
As a listener and amatuer DJ I was a big trance fan from the mid 90s, frequenting trance / hard house clubs on a weekly basis listening to, in my opinion the very best of the trance period. One of my very favourite DJs from then was John OO Flemming, he always rocked the place (Slinky, Creation, Bristol).
I tried to sustain this past the early 00s with the likes of Tiesto - In search of sunrise compilations, AvB etc but the sound was changing back then to either a harder or more commercial vibe and I took a different path towards progressive and tech, Satoshi Tommiie, Lawler, Digweed etc as that reflected more of the sound I wanted to hear.
This also wained and as the deep house movement began I again switched allegances, we all know what soon happened to deep house, commercialised to the nth degree!
I rarely have time to listen to music anymore, a young baby has put paid to that but even when I do get a moment, there is so much out there now it's hard to find something new that I like and revert to updating podcasts from the likes of Hernan Cattaneo and Noir in the hope that they've something to entertain me.
Those comparison videos perfectly sum up my opinion, melodies, build up and progression seem to have been utterly removed from tracks now, instead they seem an assualt on the ears and in your face from the get go. Maybe it's a reflection of current culture and patience, nobody seems to have any patience anymore, everything is at our finger tips the minute we want it and that's what clubbers want too, an instant aural assualt.
I used to like the statement that house music was created by robots with feelings, now it seems to be made to numb the senses.
You might like Gai Barone. https://soundcloud.com/gai-barone/patterns-140I tried to sustain this past the early 00s with the likes of Tiesto - In search of sunrise compilations, AvB etc but the sound was changing back then to either a harder or more commercial vibe and I took a different path towards progressive and tech, Satoshi Tommiie, Lawler, Digweed etc as that reflected more of the sound I wanted to hear.
This also wained and as the deep house movement began I again switched allegances, we all know what soon happened to deep house, commercialised to the nth degree!
I rarely have time to listen to music anymore, a young baby has put paid to that but even when I do get a moment, there is so much out there now it's hard to find something new that I like and revert to updating podcasts from the likes of Hernan Cattaneo and Noir in the hope that they've something to entertain me.
Those comparison videos perfectly sum up my opinion, melodies, build up and progression seem to have been utterly removed from tracks now, instead they seem an assualt on the ears and in your face from the get go. Maybe it's a reflection of current culture and patience, nobody seems to have any patience anymore, everything is at our finger tips the minute we want it and that's what clubbers want too, an instant aural assualt.
I used to like the statement that house music was created by robots with feelings, now it seems to be made to numb the senses.
Hoofy said:
You might like Gai Barone. https://soundcloud.com/gai-barone/patterns-140
Hmm, not bad, some decent tracks, mixing is pretty pants though.Matt_N said:
Hoofy said:
You might like Gai Barone. https://soundcloud.com/gai-barone/patterns-140
Hmm, not bad, some decent tracks, mixing is pretty pants though.
What the hell?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Apu0HUoQxE
I've been a fan of Armin for about 14 years, but this is s
t.
See ya.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Apu0HUoQxE
I've been a fan of Armin for about 14 years, but this is s
t.See ya.
funkyrobot said:
What the hell?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Apu0HUoQxE
I've been a fan of Armin for about 14 years, but this is st.
See ya.
The top comments sum it up nicely.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Apu0HUoQxE
I've been a fan of Armin for about 14 years, but this is s
t.See ya.
funkyrobot said:
What the hell?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Apu0HUoQxE
I've been a fan of Armin for about 14 years, but this is st.
See ya.
Dear god, that's bad.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Apu0HUoQxE
I've been a fan of Armin for about 14 years, but this is s
t.See ya.
Trying to combine two styles of music into one steaming pile of turd.
The track starts ok, but by 15 seconds in it's beginning to go wrong with that horrible repetitive noise, then 45 seconds in we get subjected to meep, meep, meep, meep, meep.
1.15-1.45 is pants, it's like they thought, right this is where we'll slip the EDM / big room sound in.
You then get a trance esque breakdown at about 2.35, which is actually ok, but then the air horn meep meep meep creeps back in a minute later and from 4.00 on the track is just pap with a terrible effect at 4.20.
It's a very amatuer sounding track and not something I'd be using to promote a new album!
Matt_N said:
funkyrobot said:
What the hell?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Apu0HUoQxE
I've been a fan of Armin for about 14 years, but this is st.
See ya.
Dear god, that's bad.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Apu0HUoQxE
I've been a fan of Armin for about 14 years, but this is s
t.See ya.
Trying to combine two styles of music into one steaming pile of turd.
The track starts ok, but by 15 seconds in it's beginning to go wrong with that horrible repetitive noise, then 45 seconds in we get subjected to meep, meep, meep, meep, meep.
1.15-1.45 is pants, it's like they thought, right this is where we'll slip the EDM / big room sound in.
You then get a trance esque breakdown at about 2.35, which is actually ok, but then the air horn meep meep meep creeps back in a minute later and from 4.00 on the track is just pap with a terrible effect at 4.20.
It's a very amatuer sounding track and not something I'd be using to promote a new album!
Its almost sad.... the song. Its almost trying so hard to be.. something... but it doesnt quite know what. As the poster above said, not a bad breakdown in the middle, but sandwiched by crap. Sorry, its not trance, no matter who produced it.
EDIT - this is currently doing good things for me. The audio is great, but to see it done like this is fantastic. Would have loved to have been there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SahQUvZaS-c
EDIT - this is currently doing good things for me. The audio is great, but to see it done like this is fantastic. Would have loved to have been there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SahQUvZaS-c
Edited by Condi on Monday 12th October 22:33
Condi said:
Its almost sad.... the song. Its almost trying so hard to be.. something... but it doesnt quite know what. As the poster above said, not a bad breakdown in the middle, but sandwiched by crap. Sorry, its not trance, no matter who produced it.
EDIT - this is currently doing good things for me. The audio is great, but to see it done like this is fantastic. Would have loved to have been there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SahQUvZaS-c
The quality was pretty sEDIT - this is currently doing good things for me. The audio is great, but to see it done like this is fantastic. Would have loved to have been there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SahQUvZaS-c
Edited by Condi on Monday 12th October 22:33
t but what was I thinking given it was recorded on a phone. Dunno why people bother.Anyway...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRA82xLsb_w
Love the melody, though.
Dear oh dear:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YfWoVnAS_I
I used to like Dash Berlin. However, as of late he has completely lost himself to the commercial sounding, build up and smack down with the bass style of music. It's awful.
I know they are peddling it as it's where the popularity and cash is. But, hearing his stuff from years ago makes me feel a little sad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YfWoVnAS_I
I used to like Dash Berlin. However, as of late he has completely lost himself to the commercial sounding, build up and smack down with the bass style of music. It's awful.
I know they are peddling it as it's where the popularity and cash is. But, hearing his stuff from years ago makes me feel a little sad.
Oh this modern stuff is simply awful. Air horns, stutter edits by the truckload, huge buildups blah blah blah. I am amazed at how some past greats have let themselves drop to this level of cheesedom. Even the cheesey air horns and buildup stuff back in the day (DJ Jean - The Launch, for example) had a bit of fun about it. This modern stuff is the absolute pits.
I think they have just followed the money.
I have tried to listen to some of it, but I really do struggle. One shining beacon of light is Above and Beyond. They have kept to their old style. Yes, they do a little bit of crash and bang, but it isn't a lot.
I tried to absorb the Dash Berlin set I posted above and it gave me a headache. I sound old when I say this, but each track seemed to be the same. I can normally tell when a song is changing and when the next track is being mixed in. I struggled with that nonsense though.
I have tried to listen to some of it, but I really do struggle. One shining beacon of light is Above and Beyond. They have kept to their old style. Yes, they do a little bit of crash and bang, but it isn't a lot.
I tried to absorb the Dash Berlin set I posted above and it gave me a headache. I sound old when I say this, but each track seemed to be the same. I can normally tell when a song is changing and when the next track is being mixed in. I struggled with that nonsense though.
I've been a casual listener of Trance since the end of the 90s when what I would call "the genuine article" was big in the charts - recall such tracks as ATB's 9pm 'Till I Come.
Among the many reasons for its current state, I personally think the following are significant, although I may be talking crap:
David Guetta courting the R&B/Hip hop set in Ibiza during the mid-2000s and thus awakening the US to European dance music (itself, no doubt, inspired by early days US House music), with the inevitable conseqences for the genre.
As above - top Trance DJs such as Tiesto and AvB moving to play big budget sets in places such as Las Vegas and Miami. Commercialisation. Make the music sound appeal to those who have the most money.
The rise of the US Skrillex-type agressive dubstep sound that seems to be responsible for much of the copycat bassy, squelching, shrieking mulch of modern dance music.
Possibly.
Among the many reasons for its current state, I personally think the following are significant, although I may be talking crap:
David Guetta courting the R&B/Hip hop set in Ibiza during the mid-2000s and thus awakening the US to European dance music (itself, no doubt, inspired by early days US House music), with the inevitable conseqences for the genre.
As above - top Trance DJs such as Tiesto and AvB moving to play big budget sets in places such as Las Vegas and Miami. Commercialisation. Make the music sound appeal to those who have the most money.
The rise of the US Skrillex-type agressive dubstep sound that seems to be responsible for much of the copycat bassy, squelching, shrieking mulch of modern dance music.
Possibly.
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