Absolutely incredible music genre map

Absolutely incredible music genre map

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Quhet

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2,419 posts

146 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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Not really sure how to describe these. So have copied in the description from the website:
"This is an ongoing attempt at an algorithmically-generated, readability-adjusted scatter-plot of the musical genre-space, based on data tracked and analyzed for 1387 genres by The Echo Nest. The calibration is fuzzy, but in general down is more organic, up is more mechanical and electric; left is denser and more atmospheric, right is spikier and bouncier.
Click anything to hear an example of what it sounds like.
Click the » on a genre to see a map of its artists."

http://everynoise.com/engenremap.html

http://static.echonest.com/playlist/moms/ - map of musical genres

Utterly absorbing

Evangelion

7,723 posts

178 months

Sunday 8th November 2015
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Interesting - but at the end of the day it's just one person's opinion about what should be placed next to what and who should go in where.
Would be nice if you could just type in the name of a band or artist to see where he thinks they should be.

Hoofy

76,351 posts

282 months

Sunday 8th November 2015
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Christ. I saw a dance music one before. Some of the stuff was in the wrong category in that one so I suspect there will be mistakes here, too?

Well, he's got uplifting trance confused with electro.

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Sunday 8th November 2015
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Hoofy said:
Well, he's got uplifting trance confused with electro.
The absolute bd.

Hoofy

76,351 posts

282 months

Sunday 8th November 2015
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whoami said:
Hoofy said:
Well, he's got uplifting trance confused with electro.
The absolute bd.
biggrin

He should be shot dead in front of his family.

Blayney

2,948 posts

186 months

Monday 9th November 2015
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Plenty of obscure genre in there to be fair. Although it is missing some of the ridiculous metal "genre" like pornogrind. I was happy to see nintendocore represented though.

Hoofy

76,351 posts

282 months

Monday 9th November 2015
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Anyone spot old school hardcore in there? Eg Altern8?

Don1

15,942 posts

208 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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Hoofy said:
Anyone spot old school hardcore in there? Eg Altern8?
Wouldn't Altern8 be rave? (Not seen the list, lost faith with the comments about Electro/Trance!biggrin )

GetCarter

29,377 posts

279 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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Where is Baroque?

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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GetCarter said:
Where is Baroque?
It's there.

GetCarter

29,377 posts

279 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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whoami said:
It's there.
Hmmm... can't be arsed to look but:

"Sorry, that one doesn't seem to be on any of these maps yet".

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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GetCarter said:
whoami said:
It's there.
Hmmm... can't be arsed to look but:

"Sorry, that one doesn't seem to be on any of these maps yet".
Bottom left

GetCarter

29,377 posts

279 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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whoami said:
GetCarter said:
whoami said:
It's there.
Hmmm... can't be arsed to look but:

"Sorry, that one doesn't seem to be on any of these maps yet".
Bottom left
Well blow me, so it is. Still, nowhere to be found is the music I write for a living.

otolith

56,079 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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Evangelion said:
Interesting - but at the end of the day it's just one person's opinion about what should be placed next to what and who should go in where.
Would be nice if you could just type in the name of a band or artist to see where he thinks they should be.
It looks as if there is some subjectivity in it, but it's algorithmically generated. He says there a ten dimensional categorisation which I guess they are then feeding into a multidimensional distance calculation and flattening onto a map.

http://blog.echonest.com/post/52385283599/how-we-u...



R8VXF

6,788 posts

115 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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This is just a visualisation generated automatically from data captured by echonest as to how different listeners interact with different genres. The genre data that comes from the labels and is auto ingested is piss poor, trust me on that. I have 250 million streams worth of data I could analyse and would prob come up with something similar smile

Hoofy

76,351 posts

282 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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Don1 said:
Hoofy said:
Anyone spot old school hardcore in there? Eg Altern8?
Wouldn't Altern8 be rave? (Not seen the list, lost faith with the comments about Electro/Trance!biggrin )
Whatever the case, there's no rave in there.

R8VXF

6,788 posts

115 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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Hoofy said:
Don1 said:
Hoofy said:
Anyone spot old school hardcore in there? Eg Altern8?
Wouldn't Altern8 be rave? (Not seen the list, lost faith with the comments about Electro/Trance!biggrin )
Whatever the case, there's no rave in there.
See above, rave is not a genre that the labels understand wink

Hoofy

76,351 posts

282 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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R8VXF said:
Hoofy said:
Don1 said:
Hoofy said:
Anyone spot old school hardcore in there? Eg Altern8?
Wouldn't Altern8 be rave? (Not seen the list, lost faith with the comments about Electro/Trance!biggrin )
Whatever the case, there's no rave in there.
See above, rave is not a genre that the labels understand wink
Heh. Rave and old school hardcore cover Altern8.

R8VXF

6,788 posts

115 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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Hoofy said:
Heh. Rave and old school hardcore cover Altern8.
Gimme a shout tomorrow to dump the labels versions of genres for you. It is even worse than you think. The big 4 are notorious for giving partners bad data for the metadata for music. What you should really be taking from the infographic linked is how people who listen to one genre interact with other genres.

Hoofy

76,351 posts

282 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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R8VXF said:
Gimme a shout tomorrow to dump the labels versions of genres for you. It is even worse than you think. The big 4 are notorious for giving partners bad data for the metadata for music. What you should really be taking from the infographic linked is how people who listen to one genre interact with other genres.
I just want to listen to hardcore of the early 1990s as it might have listed in the first linke.