Musicians who are ****s

Musicians who are ****s

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brrapp

3,701 posts

162 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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droopsnoot said:
Halmyre said:
brrapp said:
I used to love The Skids till I met Richard Jobson in person in the early 80s. He comes across as a decent guy on telly nowadays but he wasn't when I met him.
I think he has admitted to being an ahole in those days.
I suspect that would be the case for the majority of people from the punk / new wave bands, at least at the time.
Yes, as I said, he seems quite decent nowadays. He was an arrogant when I met him and I suppose I was a bit volatile myself. Our interaction didn't go well.

Fanboi

8,918 posts

212 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Tom_C76 said:
HarryFlatters said:
audidoody said:
Doesn't the same go for Chuck Berry?
Didn't he like to video women on the plop?
Yep. And he plays with local session musicians rather than a touring band. And won't tell them in advance what the set list will be, or even which key he'll play each song in. Even when the musician is Keith Richards...
Yes, an arse as a person, but a true great in the world of rock'n'roll.

Simes205

4,539 posts

228 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Tom_C76 said:
HarryFlatters said:
audidoody said:
Doesn't the same go for Chuck Berry?
Didn't he like to video women on the plop?
Yep. And he plays with local session musicians rather than a touring band. And won't tell them in advance what the set list will be, or even which key he'll play each song in. Even when the musician is Keith Richards...
On the plus side it's only 3 chords!

gforceg

3,524 posts

179 months

Saturday 26th November 2016
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I've only ever seen or heard him in interviews and on TV, but I'd add Gene Simmons to the list. He comes across as a megalomaniac.

I get a feeling that most music stars who decide they can also act / paint / write books are normally misguided.


Halmyre

11,194 posts

139 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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Walter Becker and Donald Fagen of Steely Dan, heard they were a couple of prize sts, and it was a Steely Dan fan who I heard it from.

greygoose

8,260 posts

195 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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Francis Rossi is consistently an arse on the many times I have sadly met him, in contrast Rick Parfitt is a nice guy. Mary J Blige is a moody one, Rihanna is a nice person with time for people and gave me a cheesy wotsit [/Finbarr Saunders].

GetCarter

29,380 posts

279 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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Halmyre said:
Walter Becker and Donald Fagen of Steely Dan, heard they were a couple of prize sts, and it was a Steely Dan fan who I heard it from.
Donald Fagen is known to be an absolute nightmare to work with. He'll sack you 10 bars into the first tune if he think's you aren't cutting it.

He still remains one of the finest living composers of contemporary music IMHO. One of the reasons he's written such unique music is that he knows exactly what he wants.

I'd st myself if I ever had to work with him mind.

I've heard a couple of choice stories about Steve Gadd too (from engineers working on sessions with him). Not a bloke to annoy by not recording EVERY TIME he's playing!

Z06George

2,519 posts

189 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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GetCarter said:
I've heard a couple of choice stories about Steve Gadd too (from engineers working on sessions with him). Not a bloke to annoy by not recording EVERY TIME he's playing!
From a couple of drummer friends who've met him he's apparently a top bloke, but I guess it's a different setting to being an engineer with him.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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Halmyre said:
Walter Becker and Donald Fagen of Steely Dan, heard they were a couple of prize sts, and it was a Steely Dan fan who I heard it from.
Yes, a right pair of fussy, miserable bds by all accounts, one of the reasons I love 'em.

kev b

2,715 posts

166 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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If their recent live shows are representative then Steely Dan have compromised their high standards.

TheExcession

11,669 posts

250 months

Monday 28th November 2016
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PurpleTurtle said:
MarshPhantom said:
Miles Hunt from The Wonderstuff. Terrible band, terrible person.
This summer just gone my brother-in-law stage managed a local festival where Miles and Erica Nockalls were early on the bill.

As Miles arrived my B-i-L, himself a musician on the same bill, goes to chew the fat with him but was brusquely replied to with '"yeah yeah, let's just get on with it". B-i-L thinks "jeez, stroppy tt" and contemplates going home and burning his Wonderstuff collection.

As soon as he comes off stage, "Sorry about that mate, despite all the years I'm always a bit nervous about going on, and we were cutting it fine for our slot. What were you gonna say?. Cue half an hours chat about bands in the 90s over a beer and both parting on amicable terms.

Maybe you just caught him on a bad day too?
My sentiment too, I always thought it was all bluster, he's a hugely talented song writer. His book Miles Hunt: The Wonder Stuff Diaries 86 - 89 has received good reviews, I was hoping the price might have dropped by now as I was planning on buying three of them for xmas pressents... Bloody lefty musos charging far too much for their books eh? hehe

(Edit for dumb typos)


Edited by TheExcession on Monday 28th November 17:02

TheExcession

11,669 posts

250 months

Monday 28th November 2016
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Once upon a time....
GetCarter said:
I shared a flat once with Rowland Rivron who was in Raw Sex
Come on Steve, I've been waiting years now to hear a story about those times... biggrin

Simes205

4,539 posts

228 months

Monday 28th November 2016
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Z06George said:
From a couple of drummer friends who've met him he's apparently a top bloke, but I guess it's a different setting to being an engineer with him.
Aja title track. Did the first take it, well at least he thought was. Tapes weren't rolling. 2nd take is the one on the record. "When I say rollin I mean rolling" said S Gadd.

He is quite good though!

Loyly

17,996 posts

159 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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kev b said:
If their recent live shows are representative then Steely Dan have compromised their high standards.
I never got the hype. The whole 'pop music for musicians' tag that defined them doesn't mean that the music itself would be a great and it wasn't. They were obviously very particular and musically, it's all very tight and arranged and but the melodies aren't great.

Interesting to see Al Di Meola mentioned on the front page. I wouldn't say he was a dhead but I'll admit he doesn't interview well. He has a high opinion of himself and rightly so, but perhaps lacks humility on occasion. I watched an instructional tape that he made back in the day (I think it was REH), and boy was it dry. It's not that he seems disinterested on camera, rather that he has an assured yet reserved manner that cones across as slightly aloof at times.

The funny thing I remember from that REH tape was Al talking about his right hand technique, and how he always tried to alt-pick wherever he can. He demonstrates an almost classical rigidity to technique, going as far as to say he decided early on that hammering on and pulling off (essentially any conventional left hand legato technique) was just a lazy dead end in the pursuit of musical expression, which prompted him to develop his super fast, super clean right hand, the end result of which is that his playing often sounds rather one dimensional. Whenever Al played in the Guitar Trio, you always knew he was on because his lines always sound the same. A monster talent no less, but he has rather pigeonholed himself into certain tonalities and patterns.

Edited by Loyly on Wednesday 30th November 12:39

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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GetCarter said:
Halmyre said:
Walter Becker and Donald Fagen of Steely Dan, heard they were a couple of prize sts, and it was a Steely Dan fan who I heard it from.
Donald Fagen is known to be an absolute nightmare to work with. He'll sack you 10 bars into the first tune if he think's you aren't cutting it.

He still remains one of the finest living composers of contemporary music IMHO. One of the reasons he's written such unique music is that he knows exactly what he wants.

I'd st myself if I ever had to work with him mind.

I've heard a couple of choice stories about Steve Gadd too (from engineers working on sessions with him). Not a bloke to annoy by not recording EVERY TIME he's playing!
Sounds like Zappa.

Halmyre

11,194 posts

139 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Gregg Allman, I don't think he's really a st per se, but way back he did a stty thing when, caught in possession of some marching powder, ratted out his roadie to avoid a custodial sentence. Said roadie went to the slammer instead, and the Allman Brothers Band broke up over the head of it (although they were heading that way anyway).

toasty

7,472 posts

220 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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I have personal third hand experience that the following are complete ****s. biggrin

Chrissy Hynde - Utter diva.
Paul Weller - Spilled my pint on his way to the stage to join Noel Gallagher.
Lars Ulrich - Had a fight with my mate (drummer in Tokyo Blade).
Courtney Love & Evan Dando - Shagging a couple of weeks after Kurt Cobain's suicide.
Bill Bailey (well he does do some songs) - Total Chrissy Hynde

blueg33

35,894 posts

224 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Gosh. Lots of ph'ers seem to know these celebs really well, not

Cant reslly pass judgment on people i havent met as you dont get a proper view of them via the media.

I have met one star who is listed here, and he came across as a nice guy and wasnt full of himself.

robsa

2,260 posts

184 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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dromong said:
Francis Rossi for turning a great 70's boogie band into a cabaret act.
If anyone should doubt how awesome Francis Rossi and Quo could be in the early 70s:

https://youtu.be/OBSDoMgjqG0

smile

davidd

6,452 posts

284 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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TheExcession said:
Once upon a time....
GetCarter said:
I shared a flat once with Rowland Rivron who was in Raw Sex
Come on Steve, I've been waiting years now to hear a story about those times... biggrin
Yeah come on Steve, I'm only sticking around on PH until you've spilled the beans.