Musicians who are ****s
Discussion
I think the issue here is twofold. One is that the majority of musicians, and artists in general for that matter, tend to hold fairly to very left wing views. This doesn't fit well with the PH demographic, who presumably all adore Gary Numan for being proudly Thatcherite.
The other is that some musicians, and stars in general, get used to being idolised and therefore become very difficult people. Sometimes the talent justifies their self belief (Van Morrison is quite justified in thinking he's achieved in his life...) but others not so much.
Besides, these days Van surely counts as a grumpy old man anyway?
The other is that some musicians, and stars in general, get used to being idolised and therefore become very difficult people. Sometimes the talent justifies their self belief (Van Morrison is quite justified in thinking he's achieved in his life...) but others not so much.
Besides, these days Van surely counts as a grumpy old man anyway?
Tom_C76 said:
I think the issue here is twofold. One is that the majority of musicians, and artists in general for that matter, tend to hold fairly to very left wing views. This doesn't fit well with the PH demographic, who presumably all adore Gary Numan for being proudly Thatcherite.
The other is that some musicians, and stars in general, get used to being idolised and therefore become very difficult people. Sometimes the talent justifies their self belief (Van Morrison is quite justified in thinking he's achieved in his life...) but others not so much.
Besides, these days Van surely counts as a grumpy old man anyway?
Yes, he'd fit right in on PH.The other is that some musicians, and stars in general, get used to being idolised and therefore become very difficult people. Sometimes the talent justifies their self belief (Van Morrison is quite justified in thinking he's achieved in his life...) but others not so much.
Besides, these days Van surely counts as a grumpy old man anyway?
Elderly said:
Paul McCartney.
Not heard that he's 'difficult'. When I was playing in a band in Hull, the guitarist's sister was invited up to his house in Scotland through a friend who was a mate of McCartney's daughter (long-winded, I know).He was there and was lovely in person - fussing about making her a coffee after tackling that 'long and winding road'.
I'd have to nominate one of my all-time heroes for this - Ritchie Blackmore. Very few who have worked with him have good things to say about him. Ronnie James Dio said that one of the things he learned from Blackmore was how not to treat fans (ie. spitting on them, etc.).
Big Pants said:
Not really on the PH spectrum, but a couple of journalists I know swear that Kylie Minogue and Peter Andre are the worst human beings* in music.
The expression used was "Clinical c
s"
Interesting as Peter Andre is often in Taunton and always seems to have time for people despite the fact he's out with his mrs.The expression used was "Clinical c
s"- Although I believe Kylie may now be as much as 74% plastic and Botox
MikeT66 said:
I'd have to nominate one of my all-time heroes for this - Ritchie Blackmore. Very few who have worked with him have good things to say about him. Ronnie James Dio said that one of the things he learned from Blackmore was how not to treat fans (ie. spitting on them, etc.).
Its funny that as I would agree that Ritchie is difficult but I also think that Mr Dio turned rather unpleasant towards Blackmore I remember one thing that Dio did on a bus and he seemed extremely bitter. I was a little shocked to be fair. I cant say I have ever read a lot of this spitting on fans stuff done by Blackmoretechiedave said:
MikeT66 said:
I'd have to nominate one of my all-time heroes for this - Ritchie Blackmore. Very few who have worked with him have good things to say about him. Ronnie James Dio said that one of the things he learned from Blackmore was how not to treat fans (ie. spitting on them, etc.).
Its funny that as I would agree that Ritchie is difficult but I also think that Mr Dio turned rather unpleasant towards Blackmore I remember one thing that Dio did on a bus and he seemed extremely bitter. I was a little shocked to be fair. I cant say I have ever read a lot of this spitting on fans stuff done by Blackmoretechiedave said:
MikeT66 said:
I'd have to nominate one of my all-time heroes for this - Ritchie Blackmore. Very few who have worked with him have good things to say about him. Ronnie James Dio said that one of the things he learned from Blackmore was how not to treat fans (ie. spitting on them, etc.).
Its funny that as I would agree that Ritchie is difficult but I also think that Mr Dio turned rather unpleasant towards Blackmore I remember one thing that Dio did on a bus and he seemed extremely bitter. I was a little shocked to be fair. I cant say I have ever read a lot of this spitting on fans stuff done by Blackmorehing about Blackmore anyway - when Deep Purple were inducted into the Hall Of Fame the surviving members said they wouldn't want Blackmore on-stage with them. There are also some insinuations of terrible bullying from Blackmore to Tony Carey, one-time Rainbow keyboard player... as well as the numerous sackings, resulting in Rainbow never having the same line-up for more than one album.Despite all that, he is one of the true guitar gods - his speed, fluidity and sublime touch eclipsing (for me, anyway) even Jimmy Page. Some time ago I was talking to Mrs.T66 about what makes a guitarist more than special, and played Whitesnake's live version of Mistreated (with Bernie Marsden and Mick Moody - two good guitarists in their own right) and then played Mistreated from Rainbow's On Stage album, with Blackmore alternately serenading the angels and stoking the fires of hell from his Stratocaster. Mrs.T66 listened to both and then simply said "Ah, now I see what you mean...". The man is a genius. Flawed, perhaps, but a genius.
Edited by MikeT66 on Tuesday 22 November 15:38
kev b said:
Mick Hucknall does not seem to be well regarded.
Apart from anything else, he compares himself to Bach 
..and he can't even sing in tune.
I can only report on what I know regarding
s. Facts, not speculation. (I've worked with some of them)One of the spice girls (I shan't name which one, mostly as I can't tell them apart), wouldn't even pour her own tea in a studio in Islington, requesting one of the tape ops to do it for her. "Am I supposed to pour it too?"
Cliff Richard was a complete
by promising he'd say hi to all the kids in wheelchairs that had been on stage with him after the performance. Actually, he left without even thanking them, leaving several in tears...and Annie Lennox tried to park her car in Battery Studios when I was there and managed to hit THREE cars. She wasn't bothered. At all.
GetCarter said:
kev b said:
Mick Hucknall does not seem to be well regarded.
Apart from anything else, he compares himself to Bach ..and he can't even sing in tune.
I can only report on what I know regarding
s. Facts, not speculation. (I've worked with some of them)One of the spice girls (I shan't name which one, mostly as I can't tell them apart), wouldn't even pour her own tea in a studio in Islington, requesting one of the tape ops to do it for her. "Am I supposed to pour it too?"
Cliff Richard was a complete
by promising he'd say hi to all the kids in wheelchairs that had been on stage with him after the performance. Actually, he left without even thanking them, leaving several in tears...and Annie Lennox tried to park her car in Battery Studios when I was there and managed to hit THREE cars. She wasn't bothered. At all.
He was saying he owes his career to huey lewis and the news as it was them that tipped off the U.S record label that signed simply red.
egor110 said:
There was a interview with Mick Hucknall on the radio , and he surprised me how humble he was.
He was saying he owes his career to huey lewis and the news as it was them that tipped off the U.S record label that signed simply red.
Yet he compares himself to Bach and can't sing in tune. He was saying he owes his career to huey lewis and the news as it was them that tipped off the U.S record label that signed simply red.
GetCarter said:
egor110 said:
There was a interview with Mick Hucknall on the radio , and he surprised me how humble he was.
He was saying he owes his career to huey lewis and the news as it was them that tipped off the U.S record label that signed simply red.
Yet he compares himself to Bach and can't sing in tune. He was saying he owes his career to huey lewis and the news as it was them that tipped off the U.S record label that signed simply red.
I've only met a few musicians. I took photos of crowded house once (Woodface so mainly Neil and Tim )they were right b
ds, made me go out with them for dinner with the band and crew and everything... 
techiedave said:
MikeT66 said:
- when Deep Purple were inducted into the Hall Of Fame the surviving members said they wouldn't want Blackmore on-stage with them.
depends what you read from whom and when.
He was adamant he didn't want to go anyway Mr Gillan seems to have been the main instigator into him not going Glover was very open minded about it.
depends what you read from whom and when.
He was adamant he didn't want to go anyway Mr Gillan seems to have been the main instigator into him not going Glover was very open minded about it.
Edited by MikeT66 on Tuesday 22 November 15:38
It's a shame that Cozy Powell never got the Rainbow Rising got the reunion that he wanted, especially with the subsequent passing of Dio, Bain and Powell. I'd rather have seen that than any Purple reunion anyway. With Blackmore's subsequent growing interest in more medieval-style music, his partnership should have continued to blossom with Dio - if only he hadn't gone for the short-term pop-rock route with Down To Earth.
On another note (without derailing the thread, I hope), I saw Last In Line (ex-Dio band bunch) at this year's Hard Rock Hell - they were pretty damn good, and paid tribute to Dio and the recently departed Bain. Sad sometimes that musicians can't put things behind them and revisit past glories - but they are just people like the rest of us, really. And I'm sure Blackmore doesn't regret any of it.
Edited by MikeT66 on Tuesday 22 November 16:29
davidd said:
GetCarter said:
egor110 said:
There was a interview with Mick Hucknall on the radio , and he surprised me how humble he was.
He was saying he owes his career to huey lewis and the news as it was them that tipped off the U.S record label that signed simply red.
Yet he compares himself to Bach and can't sing in tune. He was saying he owes his career to huey lewis and the news as it was them that tipped off the U.S record label that signed simply red.
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