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Yipper said:
Sheeran's music is cr*p, but the British music industry is in collapse and it needs him (and Adele) real bad. Those two are possibly the last wave of truly global British pop stars.
I don't like him but what makes you say that? We've dominated global music along with the US for the last fifty odd years and I see no reason to think that's going to change. PBDirector said:
so I can understand that his music might not appeal to some people, and I would agree it's formulaic. ...but at the end of the day, the guy can rock an arena full of people night after night with just a guitar and a loop box. Those tens of thousands of people, all going home having had an awesome night. If that isn't the definition of talent, what is? And how many people in the world could do that?
Yep, usual UK disease of knocking down anyone successful is alive and well I see. And I bet most of the people above are (like me) 40+ and therefore solidly in "old fart" territory music wise.So old farts complaining about the state of modern music and youth of today - was it ever thus!!
For the record I am not a fan of Ed either, but he writes his own stuff (and for others) which puts him above a lot of other modern artists, and he seems a thoroughly nice bloke - so good on him.
Far more creditworthy than all the EDM and bland R&B "featuring pitbull, flo rida, jean paul, jazzy f, repeat ad nauseum" type stuff in the charts, but there again the charts aren't really aimed at me any more, they are marketing to teenagers and this has always been the case.
Edited by Adam B on Monday 13th March 04:54
PixelpeepS3 said:
Hes not really giving the little guy a chance is he.
Releasing so many songs at once knowing this ruins the 'charts' (i know they've been ruined since the mid 90's)
He needs to remember his roots..
.Releasing so many songs at once knowing this ruins the 'charts' (i know they've been ruined since the mid 90's)
He needs to remember his roots..
Brilliant! If you were a girl this would belong in the "classic from the mrs" thread
Edited by Adam B on Monday 13th March 06:51
I really don't know how people can dislike him.
One of my favourite performances from him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I1GoEpMdYs
One of my favourite performances from him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I1GoEpMdYs
Edited by SkrrSkrr on Monday 13th March 05:19
SkrrSkrr said:
I really don't know how people can dislike him.
One of my favourite performances from him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I1GoEpMdYs
I'm sure he's a thoroughly agreeable chap, but you can hear any number of 'artists' playing comparable material in any number of pubs up and down the country.One of my favourite performances from him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I1GoEpMdYs
Edited by SkrrSkrr on Monday 13th March 05:19
FWIW, I found that excruciating to listen to.
SkrrSkrr said:
I really don't know how people can dislike him.
One of my favourite performances from him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I1GoEpMdYs
You must be related to the girl in a record shop in Swansea who, 20-something years ago, told me 'I don't know why anyone buys records that aren't in the charts'.One of my favourite performances from him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I1GoEpMdYs
He's for those who find the Lighthouse Family too edgy...
Adam B said:
Yep, usual UK disease of knocking down anyone successful is alive and well I see.
This is the sorry state of the world (and PH) today, not that a very talented young man is doing well for himself.FWIW, I turn over the radio 90% of the time when a Beatles track is played but would listen to most of Ed Sheeran's stuff out of choice. News flash - taste in music is subjective.
Some very bitter people about unfortunately.
wiggy001 said:
Adam B said:
Yep, usual UK disease of knocking down anyone successful is alive and well I see.
This is the sorry state of the world (and PH) today, not that a very talented young man is doing well for himself.FWIW, I turn over the radio 90% of the time when a Beatles track is played but would listen to most of Ed Sheeran's stuff out of choice. News flash - taste in music is subjective.
Some very bitter people about unfortunately.
I'm not exactly a fan-boy, but you can't deny his talent.
He's a good singer, a good song writer and can play an instrument. That's a rarity in main stream music in this day and age.
I'd love to know what everyone else on here does for a living and what they'd be able to do in front of 40k+ people in a stadium.
TheLordJohn said:
Hear hear.
I'm not exactly a fan-boy, but you can't deny his talent.
He's a good singer, a good song writer and can play an instrument. That's a rarity in main stream music in this day and age.
I'd love to know what everyone else on here does for a living and what they'd be able to do in front of 40k+ people in a stadium.
Why do criticisms always come down to this pointless argument?I'm not exactly a fan-boy, but you can't deny his talent.
He's a good singer, a good song writer and can play an instrument. That's a rarity in main stream music in this day and age.
I'd love to know what everyone else on here does for a living and what they'd be able to do in front of 40k+ people in a stadium.
He's about as bland as they come - utterly inoffensive music for those who like to think they like music, but don't really know much about it. I'd imagine Alan Partridge would love it.
Trabi601 said:
TheLordJohn said:
Hear hear.
I'm not exactly a fan-boy, but you can't deny his talent.
He's a good singer, a good song writer and can play an instrument. That's a rarity in main stream music in this day and age.
I'd love to know what everyone else on here does for a living and what they'd be able to do in front of 40k+ people in a stadium.
Why do criticisms always come down to this pointless argument?I'm not exactly a fan-boy, but you can't deny his talent.
He's a good singer, a good song writer and can play an instrument. That's a rarity in main stream music in this day and age.
I'd love to know what everyone else on here does for a living and what they'd be able to do in front of 40k+ people in a stadium.
He's about as bland as they come - utterly inoffensive music for those who like to think they like music, but don't really know much about it. I'd imagine Alan Partridge would love it.
Trabi601 spotted yesterday;
TheLordJohn said:
Hear hear.
I'm not exactly a fan-boy, but you can't deny his talent.
He's a good singer, a good song writer and can play an instrument. That's a rarity in main stream music in this day and age.
I'd love to know what everyone else on here does for a living and what they'd be able to do in front of 40k+ people in a stadium.
There's songwriters & then there's songwriters. Man has a point. Compare & contrast.I'm not exactly a fan-boy, but you can't deny his talent.
He's a good singer, a good song writer and can play an instrument. That's a rarity in main stream music in this day and age.
I'd love to know what everyone else on here does for a living and what they'd be able to do in front of 40k+ people in a stadium.
Trabi601 said:
In my opinion he's about as bland as they come - utterly inoffensive music for those who like to think they like music, but don't really know much about it for those that buy his music by the truckload, as demonstrated by the sales figures.
I get your argument that you don't need to be an acclaimed singer songwriter to criticise a singer songwriter, but your posts (and others') do come across as pretty bitter against someone who no-one can deny is pretty successful. I'd argue it is close to impossible to be as successful as he is without the talent to back it up.As I said before, I find the Beatle's music to be pretty crap on the whole, but I'd never suggest they weren't talented because they quite clearly were. Just not for me.
TheLordJohn said:
Lets hear one of your songs then.
What a pathetic comment. I don't imagine Trabi601 has ever represented himself as a songwriter, or foisted his attempts on the general public. It's been said again and again; despite his popularity, ES writes inoffensive, run-of-the-mill, bland songs for mass consumption**. That they're popular doesn't give them any credence; Westlife were quite big at one time, it doesn't mean they were any good.
No doubt his next lyrics will rhyme moon, June & spoon.
- **See also that other mine of mediocrity; Adele
Dolf Stoppard said:
Yipper said:
Sheeran's music is cr*p, but the British music industry is in collapse and it needs him (and Adele) real bad. Those two are possibly the last wave of truly global British pop stars.
I don't like him but what makes you say that? We've dominated global music along with the US for the last fifty odd years and I see no reason to think that's going to change. The British music industry is fretting bad about its decline. Almost all the big British record labels are gone. R&B is dominated completely by the Americans, MTV pop is led by the Americans and Canadians, dance is topped by the Americans and Scandinavians, while gigantic Asia is only interested in American or local stuff like K-pop (South Korea).
What's more, the local UK scene is completely dead. There is nothing exciting (in global terms) emerging from London, Manchester, Liverpool or any of the other talent pools. The grime scene and alike are just seen as naff schoolband R&B tribute acts outside the UK. Half of all UK dance clubs have closed in the past decade or so. Illegal raves / hippy parties have had the buzz legislated out of them.
Adele, Sheeran and a few others are the best in the world and continue to top album and singles charts worldwide and are truly global, ultra-popular acts. But their number is shrinking. Instead of 20 or 30 global acts like in the past, Britain has just a handful today (<10).
This is a good read :
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/may/26/t...
AdeTuono said:
TheLordJohn said:
Lets hear one of your songs then.
What a pathetic comment. I don't imagine Trabi601 has ever represented himself as a songwriter, or foisted his attempts on the general public. It's been said again and again; despite his popularity, in my opinion ES writes inoffensive, run-of-the-mill, bland songs for mass consumption**. In my opinion, That they're popular doesn't give them any credence; Westlife were quite big at one time, but in my opinion it doesn't mean they were any good.
No doubt his next lyrics will rhyme moon, June & spoon.
- **See also that other mine of mediocrity in my opinon; Adele
Whilst Sheeran isnt my cup of tea, there are no facts when it comes to why people like music. Get over it.
AdeTuono said:
No doubt his next lyrics will rhyme moon, June & spoon.
Well then he might be accused of plagiarism 
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