Lets look at our guitars thread

Lets look at our guitars thread

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bennyboysvuk

3,491 posts

248 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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singlecoil said:
It's my position that unless you can actually swap just the body, and have everything else the same, you can't do a/b comparisons between different woods. Different guitars will always sound different, but it's not possible to factor out all the other things that can change the sound bar the wood.
Quite right. I have the same Seymour Duncan SH4 and SH2 pickups in three different guitars. In order of clarity when playing with quite a bit of gain, I'd put them in the following order.

Epiphone Les Paul with bumblebee caps and RS Guitarworks CTS pots
Gibson SG Standard
Ibanez RG320FM

For some reason, the RG is muddier sounding than the other two guitars so I assume it's either due to the electronics or the basswood body.

Edited by bennyboysvuk on Thursday 29th January 12:53

Baryonyx

17,995 posts

159 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Speaking of tone, I've been seriously impressed with my Fender Strat through my Fender Super-Sonic 22 amp. Eric Johnson said the best place to start for a good tone was with a Fender guitar though a Fender amp and he was quite right. No need for fluff or effects, just plug-in tone which is fantastic. I'd be happy to record straight to disc with a close mic with this setup.

I've just restrung the Strat with Fender 10's, although the bottom is a 'heavy bottom' '52. It plays beautifully, the strings are tight and easy to attack with the pick and the strings are so rich and full sounding.

I've been trying to work on this lick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU4z-jIjwWQ

Okay, so there is no denying Rick Graham is a master! I love this progression and the playing over the top is fantastic. Sadly, I've only got to the end of the very first phrase this morning. And nowhere near as clean or as fast as Rick plays it. But I'm hoping that if I stick at it, repeating each phrase each day and trying to learn a little bit more, I'll get it all down.

Moreover, I've been working on the first two minutes of this, but they're not as hard as the lick above! Getting John's nuance is tough, but the once you've got the basic notes to hand you find it all comes together pretty quickly and easily.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOfWFkXU0Gs

Don1

15,939 posts

208 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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Just to revisit one of mine, with a new purchase. NOISE! biggrin

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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Don1 said:
Just to revisit one of mine, with a new purchase. NOISE! biggrin
Please tell me you have a fake blonde mullet as part of this rig. smile

Don1

15,939 posts

208 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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I have more hair on my chest than my head? (Typical TVR owner.... hehe)

Maybe I need double denim and a mullet for this....

Baryonyx

17,995 posts

159 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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Awesome guitar, though I have to say that Marshall have never done it for me.

Tom_C76

1,923 posts

188 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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The trick with Marshall is that they genuinely sound better cranked up. At bedroom volumes my Laney Cub sounds better, but in a rehearsal room my 1987X Plexi comes alive, it's hugely responsive to pick attack as well as volume on the guitar.

Mastodon2

13,825 posts

165 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Tom_C76 said:
The trick with Marshall is that they genuinely sound better cranked up. At bedroom volumes my Laney Cub sounds better, but in a rehearsal room my 1987X Plexi comes alive, it's hugely responsive to pick attack as well as volume on the guitar.
It's not really a trick though, that's just how tube amps work.

BorkFactor

7,263 posts

158 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Tom_C76 said:
The trick with Marshall is that they genuinely sound better cranked up. At bedroom volumes my Laney Cub sounds better, but in a rehearsal room my 1987X Plexi comes alive, it's hugely responsive to pick attack as well as volume on the guitar.
The one in question is an MG series, which I believe is a solid state amp so volume won't really make a difference surely?


Mastodon2

13,825 posts

165 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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BorkFactor said:
The one in question is an MG series, which I believe is a solid state amp so volume won't really make a difference surely?
Correct, though solid states can suffer badly from clipping at higher volumes, which sounds bloody dreadful.

DeuxCentCinq

14,180 posts

182 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Unless the speaker isn't getting enough drive to flex itself properly.

Tom_C76

1,923 posts

188 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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I think it is in part getting the closed back cab working hard enough. The Laney is all tube, as are all 3 of my Marshalls, and even allowing for differences in output power the difference between home volume response and rehearsal volume response is marked.

Baryonyx

17,995 posts

159 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Tom_C76 said:
The trick with Marshall is that they genuinely sound better cranked up. At bedroom volumes my Laney Cub sounds better, but in a rehearsal room my 1987X Plexi comes alive, it's hugely responsive to pick attack as well as volume on the guitar.
Every tube amp does though. A lot of the beefier stuff, you can't even test it out in a shop IMO. The insulated booths that the top end guitar shops have aren't really as well insulated as you think!

That said, even if you're playing at home, a small tube amp will sound considerably better than a solid state amp. Sure, it'll have to 'go loud', but the richness and dynamic punch of the sound is so much better than the artifice of solid state stuff. It's different bass wise though, for whatever reason. Bass tube amps can sound great, but solid state stuff can kick ass to in a way you wouldn't expect if you only played guitar.

Mastodon2

13,825 posts

165 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Mmm mmm, Classic Seris 50s Telecaster I love you.


BorkFactor

7,263 posts

158 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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Didn't think this deserved its own thread so figured I would ask here - whats the situation with guitar cables? Is it worth shelling out and getting a decent one or a generic one do?

I ask as my trusty Fender one (that came with my Telecaster) has recently died and the flimsy blue thing I found at the back of a cupboard is rubbish. My amplifier is picking up the radio and buzzing like hell which is very annoying.

I was considering getting one of the custom shop tweed ones, they any good or should I buy something else?

IainT

10,040 posts

238 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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BorkFactor said:
Didn't think this deserved its own thread so figured I would ask here - whats the situation with guitar cables? Is it worth shelling out and getting a decent one or a generic one do?

I ask as my trusty Fender one (that came with my Telecaster) has recently died and the flimsy blue thing I found at the back of a cupboard is rubbish. My amplifier is picking up the radio and buzzing like hell which is very annoying.

I was considering getting one of the custom shop tweed ones, they any good or should I buy something else?
Both guitarists in my band use them, seem pretty well shielded, doesn't do anything about duff notes though! hehe

Baryonyx

17,995 posts

159 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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I've used a black Series X cable for years now. That replaced an old venom cable I had, which wasn't as good. As far as paying huge amounts for gold plated components and wires made from the pubes of virgins, I wouldn't go that far. I avoid really cheap ste where I can because the connections tend to be pretty hokey after a couple of weeks of use.

The only ones I've really actively avoided were Monster cables with the thick end. I remember reading that they were a good salve for a dodgy jack as the thicker fitting at the end would compress the contact in the jack and close the circuit, but they were only making the problem worse and using them for a length of time would make the guitar absolutely useless with anything other than a Monster cable. Not sure if that was true, but it put me off them!

singlecoil

33,535 posts

246 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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Always worth making sure that there's a decent jack socket fitted to the guitar too. Surprising where manufacturers will try to save a couple of Yuan.

Tom_C76

1,923 posts

188 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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Agree on the jack sockets, my Clapton Strat started playing up, I blamed the amp or pedal board to start with but eventually swapped the socket for a Switchcraft one and it's all been sweetness and light ever since.

davidd

6,451 posts

284 months

Saturday 7th February 2015
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It seems my 35 year old Blazer needs more than light dusting..