Lets look at our guitars thread

Lets look at our guitars thread

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Emonda03

740 posts

199 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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its life I am afraid,whatever it is , Ferrari's not driven sat in the garage, guitars not played stored in cases, watches not worn secreted away in safes.
But lets be straight up about it, if you have the cash & buy these things for the enjoyment of owning them, looking at them & maybe using them on occasion, and they also happen to increase in value,it makes your collection of whatever it is more enjoyable.
Got a Ferrari, don't want to drive it too much,fine buy a daily driver, same with guitars, if you buy a £10k plus one, I am sure you can afford another lower value one to noodle on, stick the Gold rolex in the safe and wear your casio
Never quite get dislike for things not used, they are all works of art in various ways and if you have the means to purchase them then fine , you want to just sit & stare at it , whatever it is, then you have earnt the right by paying the purchase price
whatever item it is Limited supply & high demand = increase in value = investors interested.
Really rather than being bugged by it I think its better to view it as an opportunity/excuse to buy something you don't need but you like a lot, and justify it to yourself because it will increase in value.I am sure we all love it when things we buy go up in value!!

interloper

2,747 posts

254 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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6th Gear said:




More Huber goodness.

Krautster II.
Are my eyes playing tricks or is that there a fretless wonder?! Do you play a lot of slide or just wanted a different sound and bigger challenge?

Sheetmaself

5,663 posts

197 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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I assumed it had a form of fret guard on it what with the writing at the base.

6th Gear

3,561 posts

193 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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Correct, it's a fret guard which it was shipped with.

Lucas CAV

3,021 posts

218 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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Emonda03 said:
its life I am afraid,whatever it is , Ferrari's not driven sat in the garage, guitars not played stored in cases, watches not worn secreted away in safes.
But lets be straight up about it, if you have the cash & buy these things for the enjoyment of owning them, looking at them & maybe using them on occasion, and they also happen to increase in value,it makes your collection of whatever it is more enjoyable.
Got a Ferrari, don't want to drive it too much,fine buy a daily driver, same with guitars, if you buy a £10k plus one, I am sure you can afford another lower value one to noodle on, stick the Gold rolex in the safe and wear your casio
Never quite get dislike for things not used, they are all works of art in various ways and if you have the means to purchase them then fine , you want to just sit & stare at it , whatever it is, then you have earnt the right by paying the purchase price
whatever item it is Limited supply & high demand = increase in value = investors interested.
Really rather than being bugged by it I think its better to view it as an opportunity/excuse to buy something you don't need but you like a lot, and justify it to yourself because it will increase in value.I am sure we all love it when things we buy go up in value!!
Sorry but no....
A guitar that doesn't get played is just a collection of wood and metal...

AdeTuono

7,240 posts

226 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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Lucas CAV said:
Emonda03 said:
its life I am afraid,whatever it is , Ferrari's not driven sat in the garage, guitars not played stored in cases, watches not worn secreted away in safes.
But lets be straight up about it, if you have the cash & buy these things for the enjoyment of owning them, looking at them & maybe using them on occasion, and they also happen to increase in value,it makes your collection of whatever it is more enjoyable.
Got a Ferrari, don't want to drive it too much,fine buy a daily driver, same with guitars, if you buy a £10k plus one, I am sure you can afford another lower value one to noodle on, stick the Gold rolex in the safe and wear your casio
Never quite get dislike for things not used, they are all works of art in various ways and if you have the means to purchase them then fine , you want to just sit & stare at it , whatever it is, then you have earnt the right by paying the purchase price
whatever item it is Limited supply & high demand = increase in value = investors interested.
Really rather than being bugged by it I think its better to view it as an opportunity/excuse to buy something you don't need but you like a lot, and justify it to yourself because it will increase in value.I am sure we all love it when things we buy go up in value!!
Sorry but no....
A guitar that doesn't get played is just a collection of wood and metal...
Are we not allowed to collect then? I have around 25; most of them I haven't touched in years. Is that OK?

Tom_C76

1,923 posts

187 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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AdeTuono said:
Lucas CAV said:
Emonda03 said:
its life I am afraid,whatever it is , Ferrari's not driven sat in the garage, guitars not played stored in cases, watches not worn secreted away in safes.
But lets be straight up about it, if you have the cash & buy these things for the enjoyment of owning them, looking at them & maybe using them on occasion, and they also happen to increase in value,it makes your collection of whatever it is more enjoyable.
Got a Ferrari, don't want to drive it too much,fine buy a daily driver, same with guitars, if you buy a £10k plus one, I am sure you can afford another lower value one to noodle on, stick the Gold rolex in the safe and wear your casio
Never quite get dislike for things not used, they are all works of art in various ways and if you have the means to purchase them then fine , you want to just sit & stare at it , whatever it is, then you have earnt the right by paying the purchase price
whatever item it is Limited supply & high demand = increase in value = investors interested.
Really rather than being bugged by it I think its better to view it as an opportunity/excuse to buy something you don't need but you like a lot, and justify it to yourself because it will increase in value.I am sure we all love it when things we buy go up in value!!
Sorry but no....
A guitar that doesn't get played is just a collection of wood and metal...
Are we not allowed to collect then? I have around 25; most of them I haven't touched in years. Is that OK?
I collect too, but not by buying things and leaving them unused, tags and plastic still on. All my guitars have been gigged except the bass, and that's a Squier Affinity so not really going to go up in value. The Les Pauls, the Clapton Strat and the spotless 1992 Charvel all get used, sweated on and have buckle rash. The finish on the acoustic is wearing in places and the frets needed attention a while back. I just fundamentally object to artificially hiking the market with endless short run guitars.

For example there's a Pete Townshend Les Paul in the second hand bit of my local guitar shop at the moment. It's a nice looking piece. But they want £5500 for it, because it's a signature guitar from the Custom shop etc.

Sheetmaself

5,663 posts

197 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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My personal viewpoint, and I accept that yours is different, is that if you buy to make a profit and never play you're no different from the people who buy concert tickets with no view of going to the concert. If you buy, dont play it but enjoy the ownership of it for what it is you're grand, if you buy and you play it you're grand.

Of course the other viewpoint which i accept but dont like is that if people didnt buy these/want these that may not play them then they probably wouldnt be made anyway as the players would likely by the non ltd edition version for a few £k less.


davidd

6,443 posts

283 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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I could never justify the cost of anything collectable. I just buy what I can afford and want. I can see the point of buying stuff as an investment, be that guitars, art, cars or whatever but I'd still only want stuff I could play.



Lucas CAV

3,021 posts

218 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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AdeTuono said:
Lucas CAV said:
Emonda03 said:
its life I am afraid,whatever it is , Ferrari's not driven sat in the garage, guitars not played stored in cases, watches not worn secreted away in safes.
But lets be straight up about it, if you have the cash & buy these things for the enjoyment of owning them, looking at them & maybe using them on occasion, and they also happen to increase in value,it makes your collection of whatever it is more enjoyable.
Got a Ferrari, don't want to drive it too much,fine buy a daily driver, same with guitars, if you buy a £10k plus one, I am sure you can afford another lower value one to noodle on, stick the Gold rolex in the safe and wear your casio
Never quite get dislike for things not used, they are all works of art in various ways and if you have the means to purchase them then fine , you want to just sit & stare at it , whatever it is, then you have earnt the right by paying the purchase price
whatever item it is Limited supply & high demand = increase in value = investors interested.
Really rather than being bugged by it I think its better to view it as an opportunity/excuse to buy something you don't need but you like a lot, and justify it to yourself because it will increase in value.I am sure we all love it when things we buy go up in value!!
Sorry but no....
A guitar that doesn't get played is just a collection of wood and metal...
Are we not allowed to collect then? I have around 25; most of them I haven't touched in years. Is that OK?
You can do what you like... Obviously..

What do you do with them if you don't play them?

Don1

15,936 posts

207 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Mine are hung on walls around the house. The wife thinks of them as art. smile

Emonda03

740 posts

199 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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I play guitar, enjoy playing, only in the house, bedroom warrior, but I enjoy collecting them as well, have many many guitars, but see it as part of a pension plan/cash under the bed kind of thing. I enjoy buying them,usually play them for a bit, then something new comes along & they go away in the case for a rainy day etc. Come retirement I can sell one or two or however many I so chose to get some cash back, so really like many its me having a hobby, having the cash to indulge it, yet not really wasting money, as they are there to sell if I deem to do so. Unlike mrs emonda, who spends £££ on clothes etc that are more or less worthless once bought.
So don't knock collectors , the attitude I really hate is the 'ive had a £50 guitar I have gigged all my life blah blah blah, hate relics I relic my own through constant use blah blah blah, I am such a man and dont waste a penny on anything thats not absolutely necassry blah blah' rubbish,so what get over yourself ...I enjoy it & as I say justify it by finding a future value in it...could be the same if it were watches or cars as I said earlier
Sold a guitar once to a bloke who came to pick it up and didn't actually play guitar, it was a £2k Huber Dolphin, must admit I struggled to understand why you would collect guitars,and not be able to play them, If I liked them that much I would definitely feel the need to try them out & enjoy the playing side, bit like collecting cars and not being able to drive, ok you can enjoy the art side etc, but you are missing out on a hugely enjoyable part of ownership...but heyho each to their own, he gave me the cash & off he went with it


Edited by Emonda03 on Friday 18th November 15:49

smn159

12,447 posts

216 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Well I'm a relative novice in the land of having a large collection of guitars in that I only have three. Oh, and an acoustic. And a bass, which counts I suppose.

Thing is that my favourite is a mid 90's Japanese Strat, which I've hard tailed and added Seymour Duncan SSL-1 and SSL-5 pickups to and for me it's perfect. So much so that I find it a bit of a chore to play the others - a 50's Tribute Gibson SG and a Squier Custom 2 Tele. I might even sell the SG as it's just gathering dust. To my ears both sound a bit muddy when I use clean tones.

I do fancy a proper US Tele, but am I going to be disappointed after the Strat? Do others have a favourite 'go to' guitar or do you tend to rotate?

OldSkoolRS

6,718 posts

178 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Like you my main guitar is a Strat (happens to be a 1982 model, one of the first made in Japan Squier models). It is like a pair of old slippers so to speak and feels so natural after 30+ years, if I play other Strats in shops when testing out amps, etc they never feel quite the same.

However I did eventually find a Telecaster with the same shape neck (it's the old 'vintage' radius of 7.5" which some people don't like, but I'm obviously used to it). It doesn't feel the same to play, but close enough for my hands, plus of course it sounds quite different as well.

I also have an Epiphone Les Paul and a more recently bought Gibson LP Studio which have really different necks to the 'Fenders', but I seem to be able to accept that as part of the change from playing a Fender.

I do tend to rotate round the guitars and sometimes find I don't play one for a month or two (hope that doesn't make me a 'collector' wink ), but I always seem to have the Strat handy.

Tom_C76

1,923 posts

187 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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I play my LP, 6 string acoustic or Charvel mostly. Except when I can't be bothered fighting to retune the Charvel if the FR trem is being annoying, then I play my Strat... The 12 string gets less use, but there's a limit to what you can do with a 12 string in terms of vibrato and double stop bends wink


davidd

6,443 posts

283 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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my old jap strat is hanging up in the living room and is the go to guitar for non plugged in noodling. Gets played way more than anything else.

For band stuff I use the LP and flying V although I'm going to start using that New Strat I got a couple of weeks ago, it's taking a while to get it sounding right at volume.

The tele is not getting much use but I take it along to band practice occasionally as it is lovely (just not as lovely as the LP).

I've also got a couple of acoustics, one is always in some sort of odd tuning and the other only gets used for a rare acoustic gig or busking.


dromong

689 posts

219 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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Well I recommend more people build their own guitar, that way you can have it exactly how you want it, neck profile, weight, wood, fret size ,scale length, finish etc etc etc, then when you string it up for the first time and hear it sing you will get the biggest grin and sense of acheivement ever, and save a fortune into the bargain.

Im a guitar fanatic and i have not bought a single mass produced factory guitar since 1988, built everything i ever wanted, Soloists,SG's, Les Pauls, Teles, Rhoads v, even a Glenn Tipton Hamer custom GT, frickin mad guitar!.
Here's a recent tele i built playing Gary Moore's "Shapes of things" lead guitar solo.. https://youtu.be/wQ4gu0oFy-4

Edited by dromong on Thursday 24th November 09:51

HarryFlatters

4,203 posts

211 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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dromong said:
Well I recommend more people build their own guitar
I'm think that I'm going to have to go down this route and build (well, bolt together) my own Telecaster.

dromong

689 posts

219 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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HarryFlatters said:
I'm think that I'm going to have to go down this route and build (well, bolt together) my own Telecaster.
Cant go wrong building a Tele, they are by far the simplest electric guitar to build you will ever find. I know of companies that build things like a "Rossi replica" similar to the one i posted in the link above, and charge in the region of 12 - 1400 quid, thats a staggering profit margin!, the one in the video cost me around 120 quid all in and was made in a weekend, plays as well as any Fender or copy ive had in my hands.

Matt Novak

335 posts

101 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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I'll get round to posting some pics, didn't realise there was a guitar thread on here as I have been most active in the regional forums and supercars.

Off the top of my head:

''Proper Guitars''
Gibson non-reverse Firebird 2011 (sunburst)
Gibson ES-335 Memphis 2014 (cherry red)
Gibson Les Paul Junior 2015 (cherry red)
Zemaitis (Greco built) LP-style 2012 like Ronnie Wood played (flame maple with inlays)
Greco Les Paul DC Junior 1986 (cheery red)
Fender Strat 2008 ala Ritchie Blackmore
Ibanez RG505 (1993) in midnight wine
Ibanez PGM500CA (1992) Paul Gilbert sig in Candy Apple Red
Ibanez IC500 Iceman (1991) Jap market only reissue
Charvel model 1(?) Jap, 80's I guess

Copies / unknowns / partscasters
Unknown Flying V copy (white with block inlays, gold hardware - gift from Mrs Novak)
Les Paul Standard copy, 1970's (sunburst)
Superstrat - Kramer neck on unknown body
Superstrat - scalloped maple neck on sunburst body

Probably a few others dotted around...