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Ekona said:
JLC25 said:
Is it a 6505 head or equivalent?
It's not no, it's a Victory head and brand new.The Victory amps are made by the guys who made Cornford amps previously (I think) and thay can make decent amps, so I'd guess yours has a problem.
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That's it mostly. LH strat being played upside down by a right handed player.Has custom pickups (Seymour Duncan I think) and some other tweaks. Sounds pretty good IMO.
Always confused people when you'd turn up for a gig. The sound guy or someone would say, hey a lefty.... then a look of puzzlement as they noticed the strings were on the other way round
You can hear it in action here:
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/album-one/id1135...
Ekona said:
Real quick question folks, concerning guitar amps. I'll deliberately leave it general and vague before getting onto specifics, which I promise I will do!
Tube amp head (twin channel with ECC83s & 6L6s) & matching cab, all from the same manufacturer. When changing channels, should the amp 'pop' noticeably? Either footswitch, or using the toggle on the head itself. Only does it when going from dirty to clean, never the other way around.
As you can tell, I'm having issues but have never purchased a tube amp before, much less a separate head & cab. Just wondering if it's normal for all tube amps to do it, or just some manufacturers, or whether it's just mine. Never had this issue on previous transistor combos, but obviously they're very different beasts.
That is unusual. I'm not an electrical expert so I can't comment on what causes it in this case, but my Carvin Legacy used to sound crackly and distant and then pop so loud I though the speaker might blow, no matter what I had the volume set to. In my case, the tubes were getting old and becoming microphonic, replacing them fixed the issue. What you're experiencing is not normal behavior though, providing you're using it right.Tube amp head (twin channel with ECC83s & 6L6s) & matching cab, all from the same manufacturer. When changing channels, should the amp 'pop' noticeably? Either footswitch, or using the toggle on the head itself. Only does it when going from dirty to clean, never the other way around.
As you can tell, I'm having issues but have never purchased a tube amp before, much less a separate head & cab. Just wondering if it's normal for all tube amps to do it, or just some manufacturers, or whether it's just mine. Never had this issue on previous transistor combos, but obviously they're very different beasts.
Does it have separate channel volumes? Do you have them set at roughly the same level? Does it have an effects loop and do you have anything in the loop? Reverb pedals in the loop can sometimes cause a pop / boom when turning them on and off, I can see how that might come into effect when changing channels.
Do you warm the tubes a little on standby before playing? Does the fault / unusual characteristic appear when the amp is fully hot? If it's a Victory amp, I'm guessing you purchased it from a particular music retailer in Guildford, Surrey, have you tried talking to them?
On a separate note, I had a Peavey 6505+ and never experienced popping. It was stupidly loud and extremely heavy, I once dropped it on my foot and broke my toe.
Mastodon2 said:
That is unusual. I'm not an electrical expert so I can't comment on what causes it in this case, but my Carvin Legacy used to sound crackly and distant and then pop so loud I though the speaker might blow, no matter what I had the volume set to. In my case, the tubes were getting old and becoming microphonic, replacing them fixed the issue. What you're experiencing is not normal behavior though, providing you're using it right.
Does it have separate channel volumes? Do you have them set at roughly the same level? Does it have an effects loop and do you have anything in the loop? Reverb pedals in the loop can sometimes cause a pop / boom when turning them on and off, I can see how that might come into effect when changing channels.
Do you warm the tubes a little on standby before playing? Does the fault / unusual characteristic appear when the amp is fully hot? If it's a Victory amp, I'm guessing you purchased it from a particular music retailer in Guildford, Surrey, have you tried talking to them?
On a separate note, I had a Peavey 6505+ and never experienced popping. It was stupidly loud and extremely heavy, I once dropped it on my foot and broke my toe.
Since I posted, Victory have got back to me after I sent them a video saying it's a definite fault with my V30, very likely with the mute circuit so simply take it back to where I bought it and swap it out for a new one. They did originally think it might be a preamp valve gone and did offer to send a new one, however it's less than two weeks old so better just to return it.Does it have separate channel volumes? Do you have them set at roughly the same level? Does it have an effects loop and do you have anything in the loop? Reverb pedals in the loop can sometimes cause a pop / boom when turning them on and off, I can see how that might come into effect when changing channels.
Do you warm the tubes a little on standby before playing? Does the fault / unusual characteristic appear when the amp is fully hot? If it's a Victory amp, I'm guessing you purchased it from a particular music retailer in Guildford, Surrey, have you tried talking to them?
On a separate note, I had a Peavey 6505+ and never experienced popping. It was stupidly loud and extremely heavy, I once dropped it on my foot and broke my toe.
The particular retailer in Guildford offered a couple of suggestions but said it was best to speak to Victory direct. I've spoken to said retailer today, and will be popping in on Saturday to swap it for a new one, they were pretty good about the whole thing in honesty. Makes sense the amp is at fault, as I did some extensive testing on the day of purchase and there were no pops at all, but I then wondered if maybe it was just me being a bit new to this and expecting too much.
Amp always warmed up before use for a minute or so, and popping occurs regardless of whether I'm playing anything or not: Unplug the guitar completely and hit the footswitch, and it still sounds like the speaker wants to leap out of the cab, although it is much more noticeable when you're playing something. Nothing in the loop either. Gorgeous tone to the thing though, which is why I want to replace it rather than just refund, genuinely wouldn't want anything else for the cash. Interesting comment about the reverb though, as I've noticed that using an in-line reverb pedal via the drive channel gives ridiculous amounts of reverb at even low settings, which then gives no reverb on the clean. I might have to investigate that further.
Thanks for the help folks, I'll post back up after Saturday hopefully with good news.
Don1 said:
6th Gear - interesting build, obviously made to look well played! How does it play?
Hi DonThe neck feels full in the hand... '59 LP profile. Frets are smooth and easy to bend and play vibrato on.
It sounds open and dynamic, lots of sustain. It doesn't have a muddy midrange or a boominess to the bottom end. Sparkle on the bridge position with plenty of bite but nothing that pokes you in the eye.
Lovely guitar.
Ekona said:
Can I ask why that is? Not doubting you, just trying to understand why.
Because when you put reverb in front of distortion (the preamp distortion of your Drive channel), the compression (which is inherent in distortion) interferes with the reverb's 'tail'. In effect, the reverb signal now doesn't die away as quickly nor as smoothly as it does when running into a Clean channel. You have to turn the reverb level down to avoid the reverb smearing your playing, and even then it sounds pretty poor.All multi-FX and all studio production processes puts reverb right at the end of the FX chain for the same reason.
Same's true for delay.
Mastodon2 said:
On a separate note, I had a Peavey 6505+ and never experienced popping. It was stupidly loud and extremely heavy, I once dropped it on my foot and broke my toe.
I had the + head which I then got rid of for a Hiwatt. Popping can happen on them, but disappears when fully warmed through most the time. It was heavy as hell but a dream to tour with as practically indestructible, especially compared to the Hiwatt Higain 100 I had which was back in Leeds within 2 weeks of ownership (fixed all for free though, the team at Hiwatt are brilliant!) and the 2 Blackstars the other guitarist went through. In an ideal world, I'd have the gain channel from the 6505 and the clean from the Hiwatt.Ekona said:
Mastodon2 said:
That is unusual. I'm not an electrical expert so I can't comment on what causes it in this case, but my Carvin Legacy used to sound crackly and distant and then pop so loud I though the speaker might blow, no matter what I had the volume set to. In my case, the tubes were getting old and becoming microphonic, replacing them fixed the issue. What you're experiencing is not normal behavior though, providing you're using it right.
Does it have separate channel volumes? Do you have them set at roughly the same level? Does it have an effects loop and do you have anything in the loop? Reverb pedals in the loop can sometimes cause a pop / boom when turning them on and off, I can see how that might come into effect when changing channels.
Do you warm the tubes a little on standby before playing? Does the fault / unusual characteristic appear when the amp is fully hot? If it's a Victory amp, I'm guessing you purchased it from a particular music retailer in Guildford, Surrey, have you tried talking to them?
On a separate note, I had a Peavey 6505+ and never experienced popping. It was stupidly loud and extremely heavy, I once dropped it on my foot and broke my toe.
Since I posted, Victory have got back to me after I sent them a video saying it's a definite fault with my V30, very likely with the mute circuit so simply take it back to where I bought it and swap it out for a new one. They did originally think it might be a preamp valve gone and did offer to send a new one, however it's less than two weeks old so better just to return it.Does it have separate channel volumes? Do you have them set at roughly the same level? Does it have an effects loop and do you have anything in the loop? Reverb pedals in the loop can sometimes cause a pop / boom when turning them on and off, I can see how that might come into effect when changing channels.
Do you warm the tubes a little on standby before playing? Does the fault / unusual characteristic appear when the amp is fully hot? If it's a Victory amp, I'm guessing you purchased it from a particular music retailer in Guildford, Surrey, have you tried talking to them?
On a separate note, I had a Peavey 6505+ and never experienced popping. It was stupidly loud and extremely heavy, I once dropped it on my foot and broke my toe.
The particular retailer in Guildford offered a couple of suggestions but said it was best to speak to Victory direct. I've spoken to said retailer today, and will be popping in on Saturday to swap it for a new one, they were pretty good about the whole thing in honesty. Makes sense the amp is at fault, as I did some extensive testing on the day of purchase and there were no pops at all, but I then wondered if maybe it was just me being a bit new to this and expecting too much.
Amp always warmed up before use for a minute or so, and popping occurs regardless of whether I'm playing anything or not: Unplug the guitar completely and hit the footswitch, and it still sounds like the speaker wants to leap out of the cab, although it is much more noticeable when you're playing something. Nothing in the loop either. Gorgeous tone to the thing though, which is why I want to replace it rather than just refund, genuinely wouldn't want anything else for the cash. Interesting comment about the reverb though, as I've noticed that using an in-line reverb pedal via the drive channel gives ridiculous amounts of reverb at even low settings, which then gives no reverb on the clean. I might have to investigate that further.
Thanks for the help folks, I'll post back up after Saturday hopefully with good news.
All swapped over Andertons, no fuss at all and I now have a perfectly working V30 amp again Dear god, the drive channel is just so meaty it's unreal, but back it off and you get a lovely crunch tone too.
And a quick pic of the collection in whole, I'll do some proper pics and a bit of blurb if I get a chance later this weekend.
From L-R though:
Random no-name bass I've had since I was 13
Peavey International bass
Marlin Strat copy
Squier Jagmaster Vista
Epiphone SG-400
Ibanez AEG2411
Fender Mustang Cobain
...and the top one is an LTD Snakebyte.
Effects board is a Digitech RP1000.
I also picked up an old BC Rich Warlock the other day for £30, purely because the shape is something my childhood always wanted so it's going to get used as artwork somehow rather than an actual guitar, because it's not very good at being one of those
And a quick pic of the collection in whole, I'll do some proper pics and a bit of blurb if I get a chance later this weekend.
From L-R though:
Random no-name bass I've had since I was 13
Peavey International bass
Marlin Strat copy
Squier Jagmaster Vista
Epiphone SG-400
Ibanez AEG2411
Fender Mustang Cobain
...and the top one is an LTD Snakebyte.
Effects board is a Digitech RP1000.
I also picked up an old BC Rich Warlock the other day for £30, purely because the shape is something my childhood always wanted so it's going to get used as artwork somehow rather than an actual guitar, because it's not very good at being one of those
Just swapped out a 1x12 I had 'built into' my front wall behind my projector screen. It sounded a bit too 'boxy' for my liking and I was after the richer sound I get when I take my head to the reheasal studio that has some cheap 4x12 cabs. I couldn't fit a 4x12 in, but I've put in a cheap 2x12 'empty' cab from Thomann and loaded it with a pair of Celestion Greenbacks. Much better now and doesn't sound boxy at all.
Not sure what to do with the 1x12 cab; might try another speaker in it and perhaps with part of the back removed to make it open backed instead of closed. It was originally made to match my Marshall JMP1-H 1 watt head, but the Mini Jubilee looks pretty good on top I reckon.
About to be entombed behind my projector screen:
Mini Jubilee on 2x12 for testing:
Mini Jubilee stack:
Not sure what to do with the 1x12 cab; might try another speaker in it and perhaps with part of the back removed to make it open backed instead of closed. It was originally made to match my Marshall JMP1-H 1 watt head, but the Mini Jubilee looks pretty good on top I reckon.
About to be entombed behind my projector screen:
Mini Jubilee on 2x12 for testing:
Mini Jubilee stack:
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