Lilly Allen - Its Not Fair...
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Munter said:
FoolOnTheHill said:
Munter said:
Exactly. You either have kids and accept society is what it is. Or you change society "for the better" then have kids. .
Eh, by that logic we can't have kids til society is perfect?Lordbenny said:
Munter said:
FoolOnTheHill said:
Munter said:
Exactly. You either have kids and accept society is what it is. Or you change society "for the better" then have kids. .
Eh, by that logic we can't have kids til society is perfect?2) you can try to protect them by empowering them with knowledge. This, unfortunately, will probably just end up giving them ideas and thus is probably also doomed to fail.
If the kid doesn't know what the lyrics mean, no harm done. If the kid does know what they mean, its already too late and probably was before they heard the song. Kids learn, faster than adults do actually, so trying to stop them might be harder than trying to empower them and teach them responsibility, and just keeping track of what they're up to.
I've presented those as extremes but neither seems right or wrong to me. Parents just need to do what seems best, and make their own choices. Personally, at the moment I lean towards the empowerment side but then my kid's not even talking yet, apart from calling me dadada, so I may be saying the opposite in 5 years time..
Alfanatic said:
Lordbenny said:
Munter said:
FoolOnTheHill said:
Munter said:
Exactly. You either have kids and accept society is what it is. Or you change society "for the better" then have kids. .
Eh, by that logic we can't have kids til society is perfect?2) you can try to protect them by empowering them with knowledge. This, unfortunately, will probably just end up giving them ideas and thus is probably also doomed to fail.
If the kid doesn't know what the lyrics mean, no harm done. If the kid does know what they mean, its already too late and probably was before they heard the song. Kids learn, faster than adults do actually, so trying to stop them might be harder than trying to empower them and teach them responsibility, and just keeping track of what they're up to.
I've presented those as extremes but neither seems right or wrong to me. Parents just need to do what seems best, and make their own choices. Personally, at the moment I lean towards the empowerment side but then my kid's not even talking yet, apart from calling me dadada, so I may be saying the opposite in 5 years time..
I also want my daughter, of 3 1/2, to have a full childhood, as untainted by this materialistic world as possible.
At present she loves to talk to anyone, child or adult, and it's lovely to see. She makes people smile when she does this, which I like, the fact that she might have brightened their day up a little.
One day I'm going to have to teach her that not all adults can be trusted, that some would actually want to hurt her. When that day comes it'll be very, very sad, and quite depressing because I'll have to destroy part of her childhood.
Alfanatic said:
Lordbenny said:
Munter said:
FoolOnTheHill said:
Munter said:
Exactly. You either have kids and accept society is what it is. Or you change society "for the better" then have kids. .
Eh, by that logic we can't have kids til society is perfect?2) you can try to protect them by empowering them with knowledge. This, unfortunately, will probably just end up giving them ideas and thus is probably also doomed to fail.
If the kid doesn't know what the lyrics mean, no harm done. If the kid does know what they mean, its already too late and probably was before they heard the song. Kids learn, faster than adults do actually, so trying to stop them might be harder than trying to empower them and teach them responsibility, and just keeping track of what they're up to.
I've presented those as extremes but neither seems right or wrong to me. Parents just need to do what seems best, and make their own choices. Personally, at the moment I lean towards the empowerment side but then my kid's not even talking yet, apart from calling me dadada, so I may be saying the opposite in 5 years time..
FoolOnTheHill said:
Munter said:
FoolOnTheHill said:
Munter said:
Exactly. You either have kids and accept society is what it is. Or you change society "for the better" then have kids. .
Eh, by that logic we can't have kids til society is perfect?The one thing you can't do (Unless your name is Fritzel), is stop your children being influenced by society. You do not have 100% input into forming their minds.
Lordbenny said:
Munter said:
FoolOnTheHill said:
Munter said:
Exactly. You either have kids and accept society is what it is. Or you change society "for the better" then have kids. .
Eh, by that logic we can't have kids til society is perfect?But this is your thread. Started because you cannot protect your kids innocence to that extent. Sure you can pretty much keep them away from hard core porn and those items that are deemed to be really only fit for adult consumption by society. But anything thats deemed ok for general consumption (like pop music) will influence them. You might try and delay it a bit, or steer them onto how that stuff should influence them (e.g. take them to church and tell them it's a sin etc). But it will have an effect. And as far as I can see. This thread is proof.
Good job the OP didn't see her set at Glastonbury. The potty mouthed pop princess was in fine form. We were treated to the 18 certificate version of 'Not Fair', complete with a mime for the act itself.
Our group (aged mid-twenties) did comment that it was a bit wrong that there was a five year old girl sitting on her Dad's shoulders, merrily singing along and apparently completely oblivious to the true meaning of the song.
She also did a very catchy song called 'f
k You', about the BNP. A real sing-along affair in the afternoon sunshine with the crowd, encouraged by Allen, to hold their middle fingers in the air for the chorus.
Good times.
Our group (aged mid-twenties) did comment that it was a bit wrong that there was a five year old girl sitting on her Dad's shoulders, merrily singing along and apparently completely oblivious to the true meaning of the song.
She also did a very catchy song called 'f
k You', about the BNP. A real sing-along affair in the afternoon sunshine with the crowd, encouraged by Allen, to hold their middle fingers in the air for the chorus. Good times.
Love the video for "Fat Girl"Munter said:
But this is your thread. Started because you cannot protect your kids innocence to that extent.
And what I'm saying is that although it might be difficult at times all you can do is your best as a parent and that includes having a moan about a foul mouthed wannabe who thinks its cool to use that kind of language infront of kids.Just picked-up on this thread... it reminds me of an incident that the ex was involved in when she was a primary school teacher. She had a class party and was supplied with a CD by the head. On the CD was a track, the redeeming feature of which was the line "I wanna have sex on the beach", which the kids joyfully repeated ad-ininitum once they had heard it.
MitchT said:
Just picked-up on this thread... it reminds me of an incident that the ex was involved in when she was a primary school teacher. She had a class party and was supplied with a CD by the head. On the CD was a track, the redeeming feature of which was the line "I wanna have sex on the beach", which the kids joyfully repeated ad-ininitum once they had heard it.
Where I grew up "sex on the beach" was a cocktail, and was thus "I wanna have sex on the beach" was a statement commonly directed at bartenders.Alfanatic said:
MitchT said:
Just picked-up on this thread... it reminds me of an incident that the ex was involved in when she was a primary school teacher. She had a class party and was supplied with a CD by the head. On the CD was a track, the redeeming feature of which was the line "I wanna have sex on the beach", which the kids joyfully repeated ad-ininitum once they had heard it.
Where I grew up "sex on the beach" was a cocktail, and was thus "I wanna have sex on the beach" was a statement commonly directed at bartenders.
Lordbenny said:
Alfanatic said:
MitchT said:
Just picked-up on this thread... it reminds me of an incident that the ex was involved in when she was a primary school teacher. She had a class party and was supplied with a CD by the head. On the CD was a track, the redeeming feature of which was the line "I wanna have sex on the beach", which the kids joyfully repeated ad-ininitum once they had heard it.
Where I grew up "sex on the beach" was a cocktail, and was thus "I wanna have sex on the beach" was a statement commonly directed at bartenders.Meeja said:
Lefty Guns said:
I thought the radio edit had all the bj references edited out? 
Problem is that so many people download tracks via MP3 search or torrent sites, and end up getting the album versions rather than the radio edits.So the unsuitable versions end up on kids iPods.
Alfanatic said:
Lordbenny said:
Alfanatic said:
MitchT said:
Just picked-up on this thread... it reminds me of an incident that the ex was involved in when she was a primary school teacher. She had a class party and was supplied with a CD by the head. On the CD was a track, the redeeming feature of which was the line "I wanna have sex on the beach", which the kids joyfully repeated ad-ininitum once they had heard it.
Where I grew up "sex on the beach" was a cocktail, and was thus "I wanna have sex on the beach" was a statement commonly directed at bartenders.Gassing Station | Music | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff