Metallica - the best all round rock band?

[Garlick]

Since I was about 15 I have been listening to Metallica (20 years now) and they always impress me. From thrash metal to melodic ballads, guitar solos to drum solos I simply don't dislike a single track they have released.

Sitting in the PH office listening to 'And Justice For All' I realised the album was made in 88, and still sounds great today. IMO, they are the most rounded, talented and enjoyable bands of their genre. Discuss

[Dan_1981]

I'd agree 100%.

They are simply brilliant. Seem them 5 times live now and they never dissapoint.

The only band that in my mind come close is Iron Maiden - but looking through there collection they have some real dogs.

'Tallica on the toher hand the only albums i'm not a massive fan of are Reload and St Anger, and neither of them are terrible.

Even their poncy stuff like S&M is good, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets and Justice for all are simply amazing albums.

[Z06George]

Apart from S&M I'm not a fan of anything after And Justice....But anything before that was awesome. On a technical note they could really have done better than Lars but I guess as he started the band it'd be hard getting rid of him. Creeping death one of the best songs ever.

[SoapyShowerBoy]

Metallica & San Francisco Symphony Orchestra Albulm, I understand a lot of purist did not like it, but I think it is brilliant.

As for best all round rock band, give Mr.Big a listen

[Driller]

Very good band let down by Kirk Hammet who is a very poor guitar player. (OK, he has a few good moments)

[lockhart flawse]

Only if you have a very narrow definition of all round.

They're extremely competent but as you said: "from thrash metal to melodic ballads" via where exactly - that's all they do. Loud/soft, fast or slow, start finish, up/down. Nowt in between like. And any band that still has drum solos....that's when we used to go and get another pint.

So absolutely no way are they the best all-round rock band, whatever that is. Not anything I think too many people dream about in their bedrooms. Know what ......one day I'm gonna be in the best all-round rock band ever.

As for the suggestion of Mr Big - you kiddin? Competent for sure but over-produced and totally without soul or joy. Footballer rock. Rock by numbers
as recommended in the Puffin book of rock. Wedding party rock, karaoke rock, BBQ rock, Teach-yourself rock, Butlins rock, seaside rock. (Not sure about the last one).

All IMHO of course.

L.F.

[Malam]

Driller said:

Very good band let down by Kirk Hammet who is a very poor guitar player. (OK, he has a few good moments)

+1

Kirk's playing is embarrasingly bad.

[Bomber Denton]

Nope.

Iron Maiden.

[Dan_1981]

Bomber Denton said:

Nope.

Iron Maiden.

I love Iron Maiden - but have you listened to some of their albums?

May i refer you in the first instance to Virtual XI.

And lets be honest its not the only one!

[Driller]

Dan_1981 said:

Bomber Denton said:

Nope.

Iron Maiden.

I love Iron Maiden - but have you listened to some of their albums?

May i refer you in the first instance to Virtual XI.

And lets be honest its not the only one!

St Anger was at least as st.

Edited by Driller on Friday 10th July 20:47

[Dan_1981]

Driller said:

Dan_1981 said:

Bomber Denton said:

Nope.

Iron Maiden.

I love Iron Maiden - but have you listened to some of their albums?

May i refer you in the first instance to Virtual XI.

And lets be honest its not the only one!

St Anger was at least as st.

Edited by Driller on Friday 10th July 20:47

Yeah i'll not disagree there, but what about X factor and Brave New World.

As an aside Blaze Bailey was gigging in a very small pub in Nottingham not too long ago.

Ah how the mighty are fallen.

[Tom_C76]

lockhart flawse said:

Only if you have a very narrow definition of all round.

They're extremely competent but as you said: "from thrash metal to melodic ballads" via where exactly - that's all they do. Loud/soft, fast or slow, start finish, up/down. Nowt in between like. And any band that still has drum solos....that's when we used to go and get another pint.

So absolutely no way are they the best all-round rock band, whatever that is. Not anything I think too many people dream about in their bedrooms. Know what ......one day I'm gonna be in the best all-round rock band ever.

As for the suggestion of Mr Big - you kiddin? Competent for sure but over-produced and totally without soul or joy. Footballer rock. Rock by numbers
as recommended in the Puffin book of rock. Wedding party rock, karaoke rock, BBQ rock, Teach-yourself rock, Butlins rock, seaside rock. (Not sure about the last one).

All IMHO of course.

L.F.

Are you not basing your opinion of Mr Big on their one big hit here? Most of their stuff was a world away from it.

But in terms of best ever, The Foo Fighters are pretty damn good. But how wide is your definition of a rock band? Do the Who count? cos you'd have to go a long way to find better songs, and Entwistle's base playing was immense.

[Baby Huey]

Royal Trux.

[Gompo]

They're not a bad call, but I would disagree. However, whether Kirk is a poor guitar player matters not one bit, it's not as if Lars is the greatest drummer either.

..I think I am one of the few people who likes St. Anger, nevermind likes St. Anger and doesnt like Death Magnetic!

How about Queen?

[Bomber Denton]

Gompo said:

How about Queen?

Sinbin.

[Bomber Denton]

Dan_1981 said:

Driller said:

Dan_1981 said:

Bomber Denton said:

Nope.

Iron Maiden.

I love Iron Maiden - but have you listened to some of their albums?

May i refer you in the first instance to Virtual XI.

And lets be honest its not the only one!

St Anger was at least as st.

Edited by Driller on Friday 10th July 20:47

Yeah i'll not disagree there, but what about X factor and Brave New World.

As an aside Blaze Bailey was gigging in a very small pub in Nottingham not too long ago.

Ah how the mighty are fallen.

Numpty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_6FvHl5Do4

[Kinky]

The best all round rock band? Are we talking metal bands or rock bands?

In my book, it's not Metallica - although they are one of the best bands around.

On todays scene I'd say it's a toss up between the Stones, AC/DC, Van Halen and Pink Floyd.

And over time - I'd add Thin Lizzy, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Deep Purple, and of course, the greatest of them all .... Led Zeppelin.

Although an honourable mention should go to Mamas Boys

[Gompo]

Bomber Denton said:

Gompo said:

How about Queen?

Sinbin.

Hey!

..Just so you know, I love Iron Maiden and would choose them over 90% of other bands (including Metallica and definitely over Queen), just dont think they have a universal appeal which I think 'best all round' band should have. I'd class them as 'Maiden as Metal as opposed to rock too. I dont do 'bests' though.

[kiteless]

Malam said:

Driller said:

Very good band let down by Kirk Hammet who is a very poor guitar player. (OK, he has a few good moments)

+1

Kirk's playing is embarrasingly bad.

Another +1 here.

An embarrassing surfeit of scalar knowledge without any soul. Friedman kicks his arse.

As for the best all-round rock band.............

[KP328]

So it's down to me to mention...

Guns n' Roses.