Metallica - the best all round rock band?
Discussion
Twit said:
Actually Rush is a really good shout! Awesome band, very time I have seen them has been brilliant! A bit more intelligent than the average brainless metal.
Actually reading Neil Peart's Ghost Rider book at the moment, that is really good too - sad - but very good!
Seen them so many times. They get better every time.Actually reading Neil Peart's Ghost Rider book at the moment, that is really good too - sad - but very good!
Saw them in Toronto in 2008, which was incredible.
Agree with many of the comments, it's virtually impossible to call the 'best' band of all time..
Metallica are indeed great, I've seen them twice 17 years apart and enhjoyed them both. The later (this year) felt a bit like a greatest hits show, with only a 3 songs from the new album, but hey everyone wants to hear the songs and it's stadium rock in the truest sense.
I saw Anthrax a couple of weeks ago and whilst they've gone through a number of singers, I think they are one of my favourite bands...doesn't make them the best though.
ACDC, Maiden - all have longevity, and Back in Black still sounds fresh today..simple music played well.
Bon Jovi - not everyone's cup of tea - but a great rock band, with big back catalogue.
Great White - underrated - but deliver tons of great songs.
Aerosmith - probably one of the best rock bands full stop - often overlooked.
Metallica are indeed great, I've seen them twice 17 years apart and enhjoyed them both. The later (this year) felt a bit like a greatest hits show, with only a 3 songs from the new album, but hey everyone wants to hear the songs and it's stadium rock in the truest sense.
I saw Anthrax a couple of weeks ago and whilst they've gone through a number of singers, I think they are one of my favourite bands...doesn't make them the best though.
ACDC, Maiden - all have longevity, and Back in Black still sounds fresh today..simple music played well.
Bon Jovi - not everyone's cup of tea - but a great rock band, with big back catalogue.
Great White - underrated - but deliver tons of great songs.
Aerosmith - probably one of the best rock bands full stop - often overlooked.
Garlick said:
Since I was about 15 I have been listening to Metallica (20 years now) and they always impress me. From thrash metal to melodic ballads, guitar solos to drum solos I simply don't dislike a single track they have released.
Sitting in the PH office listening to 'And Justice For All' I realised the album was made in 88, and still sounds great today. IMO, they are the most rounded, talented and enjoyable bands of their genre. Discuss
What's an "all round rock band"? Personally, I reckon everything after AJFA has been cack MTV pop rock. Load being the worst offender.Sitting in the PH office listening to 'And Justice For All' I realised the album was made in 88, and still sounds great today. IMO, they are the most rounded, talented and enjoyable bands of their genre. Discuss
Edited by militantmandy on Monday 13th July 13:57
This makes Nicky sad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjvajNHPewY
Fella's, if you can't play the song don't play the song. I saw them in 2000 and they were still decent enough, but long gone are the days of decent 'Tallic. IMO of course!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjvajNHPewY
Fella's, if you can't play the song don't play the song. I saw them in 2000 and they were still decent enough, but long gone are the days of decent 'Tallic. IMO of course!
I'd say that the solos in a lot of Metallica songs are excellent:
Four Horsemen, Jump in the Fire, Ride the Lightning, Fade to Black, Creeping Death, Master of Puppets, Disposable Heroes, Orion, One, To Live is to Die, Wherever I may roam...
OK, the Load solos weren't good, but you can't say Kirk Hammett is 'terrible'
He is a bit of a copy-cat, his solos sound like 70's guitar work, sped up a bit, and yes, Megadeth's solos are better, but that doesn't make him a bad guitarist.
Four Horsemen, Jump in the Fire, Ride the Lightning, Fade to Black, Creeping Death, Master of Puppets, Disposable Heroes, Orion, One, To Live is to Die, Wherever I may roam...
OK, the Load solos weren't good, but you can't say Kirk Hammett is 'terrible'
He is a bit of a copy-cat, his solos sound like 70's guitar work, sped up a bit, and yes, Megadeth's solos are better, but that doesn't make him a bad guitarist.
some great songs over the years -- My fav. were the ones on "And Justice for All".
I can't listen to the albums as I hate the production -- tinny, brittle sounding guitars, no warm and no bass.
(Pantera suffered from this too)
The bass aspect is interesting - people have re-recorded Jason Newsted's basslines at an audible volume over the original tracks - the songs do sound better to my ears
Never understood all the fuss about CLiff Burton tbh -
I can't listen to the albums as I hate the production -- tinny, brittle sounding guitars, no warm and no bass.
(Pantera suffered from this too)
The bass aspect is interesting - people have re-recorded Jason Newsted's basslines at an audible volume over the original tracks - the songs do sound better to my ears
Never understood all the fuss about CLiff Burton tbh -
Bomber Denton said:
Dan_1981 said:
Driller said:
Dan_1981 said:
Bomber Denton said:
Nope.
Iron Maiden.
I love Iron Maiden - but have you listened to some of their albums?Iron Maiden.
May i refer you in the first instance to Virtual XI.
And lets be honest its not the only one!
t.Edited by Driller on Friday 10th July 20:47
As an aside Blaze Bailey was gigging in a very small pub in Nottingham not too long ago.
Ah how the mighty are fallen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_6FvHl5Do4
and that he's been playing the smaller pubs and clubs here building a following again with his new band. His first solo album 'Silicon Messiah' kinda got lost as it came out along side Brave New World.
I'd say he's not doing bad since he's put The Man Who out himself, as a self funded album on his own label.
give yourself a chance listen to it, and his previous albums - Silicon Messiah, Tenth Dimension and Blood and Belief (and the live album - As Live As It Gets) and i'd say that they are much stronger albums than what maiden have been coming out with recently since Blaze's departure - oh and apparently, according to Adrian, theres 4 songs on BNW that came from the Virtual XI album sessions and while Bayley wasnt credited, he co-wrote Dream of Mirrors with Steve.
And for a guy, the day after his album comes out, his wife is hospitalised with a brain hemorage, to go out to play the show's they've booked - as he doesnt want to let her down while she's ill... to carry on, and even play a big festival date as a tribute to her (it was the first date she had booked when she took on the managers role) a week after she died i'd say takes balls! and deserves the success he and his band are currently experiancing
some links -
the start of his headline set at the last date on the UK tour (excuse the poor sound in the venue, and alot of crowd singing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9_yuwNFcRs&fea...
man on the edge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO-wsgLHV7U&fea...
opening track of the new album
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAIdSZ7g3fw&fea...
and a couple from the first album
The Brave
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMweXFGFOmY&fea...
Stare At the Sun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS-qww65C_w&fea...
lord summerisle said:
Bomber Denton said:
Dan_1981 said:
Driller said:
Dan_1981 said:
Bomber Denton said:
Nope.
Iron Maiden.
I love Iron Maiden - but have you listened to some of their albums?Iron Maiden.
May i refer you in the first instance to Virtual XI.
And lets be honest its not the only one!
t.Edited by Driller on Friday 10th July 20:47
As an aside Blaze Bailey was gigging in a very small pub in Nottingham not too long ago.
Ah how the mighty are fallen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_6FvHl5Do4
and that he's been playing the smaller pubs and clubs here building a following again with his new band. His first solo album 'Silicon Messiah' kinda got lost as it came out along side Brave New World.
I'd say he's not doing bad since he's put The Man Who out himself, as a self funded album on his own label.
give yourself a chance listen to it, and his previous albums - Silicon Messiah, Tenth Dimension and Blood and Belief (and the live album - As Live As It Gets) and i'd say that they are much stronger albums than what maiden have been coming out with recently since Blaze's departure - oh and apparently, according to Adrian, theres 4 songs on BNW that came from the Virtual XI album sessions and while Bayley wasnt credited, he co-wrote Dream of Mirrors with Steve.
And for a guy, the day after his album comes out, his wife is hospitalised with a brain hemorage, to go out to play the show's they've booked - as he doesnt want to let her down while she's ill... to carry on, and even play a big festival date as a tribute to her (it was the first date she had booked when she took on the managers role) a week after she died i'd say takes balls! and deserves the success he and his band are currently experiancing
some links -
the start of his headline set at the last date on the UK tour (excuse the poor sound in the venue, and alot of crowd singing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9_yuwNFcRs&fea...
man on the edge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO-wsgLHV7U&fea...
opening track of the new album
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAIdSZ7g3fw&fea...
and a couple from the first album
The Brave
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMweXFGFOmY&fea...
Stare At the Sun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS-qww65C_w&fea...
Fantastic
Top guy
Driller said:
Very good band let down by Kirk Hammet who is a very poor guitar player. (OK, he has a few good moments)
and Lars.... He kept slowing down on the 2 occasions I've seen them. Pretty awful live drummer. Fine when in the studio with a click. I realise metallica inspired "metal", but their recent efforts are pretty dire and largely irrelevant - the only people who pick the new records up are the die hard fans who can't admit that they're a bit stuck in the 80's and their favorite band ended up a bit s
t.... Go see them live - they only play old stuff - which is good!!....when Lars can keep up.
gbbird said:
Although a great fan of Metal and a relatively big fan of Metallica, i would be loathe to go as far as saying they are the best rock or metal band. I agree that AJFA was their best album, but after that they began to lack something. The Black Album was listenable, and it went downhill from there.
Very well put - I have all of Metallica's later albums but I think I bought them out of habit / hope - Load, Reload, St Anger, Death Magnetic are all poor in comparison to the earlier work.gbbird said:
Maybe a perfect all round rock band is an ideal which can never be achieved except in very exceptional circumstances. Off the top of my head, i cannot think of one heavyweight band who has not done soemthing lacklustre in their career.
Although not an "all Round rock band" (whatever that means) Tool have never done a poor/ lacklustre record in their career everyone of their studio albums is blinding!Jane's Addiction are another band that spring to mind as never doing anything lacklustre - but with only 3 studio aalbums spanning 20 years that is hardly surprising...
Dan_1981 said:
Driller said:
Dan_1981 said:
Bomber Denton said:
Nope.
Iron Maiden.
I love Iron Maiden - but have you listened to some of their albums?Iron Maiden.
May i refer you in the first instance to Virtual XI.
And lets be honest its not the only one!
t.Edited by Driller on Friday 10th July 20:47
As an aside Blaze Bailey was gigging in a very small pub in Nottingham not too long ago.
Ah how the mighty are fallen.
I like X Factor. Very different for maiden, but very dark and theres some excellent songs on there.
and when you understand what Steve, and various other members of the band were going through at the time then it makes sense. Tho production wise it isnt the best - mainly due to working in Steve's recently (then) set up barn studio rather than a proper studio.
and when you understand what Steve, and various other members of the band were going through at the time then it makes sense. Tho production wise it isnt the best - mainly due to working in Steve's recently (then) set up barn studio rather than a proper studio.
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