best rap song...

[Jam Spavlin]

gregd said:

New Order - World in Motion (for the John Barnes bit)

FO SHIZZLE!!!! we're singing for ENGLAND! EN-GER-LAND!

on a more serious note:

Snow - Informer

Ice mc - Think about the way

Maxx - Get Away

Goldie Looking Chain - Guns dont kill people rappers do

[Mr Gearchange]

Jam Spavlin said:

FO SHIZZLE!!!! we're singing for ENGLAND! EN-GER-LAND!

on a more serious note:

Snow - Informer

[useyourdellusion]

Mr Gearchange said:

Jam Spavlin said:

FO SHIZZLE!!!! we're singing for ENGLAND! EN-GER-LAND!

on a more serious note:

Snow - Informer

What the.....?? The irony made me chuckle too..

[North West Tom]

Listen to Dizzee Rascal - Dirtee Cash. It reminded me of World in Motion.

Anyway, dunno if you can class this as rap, but it's by Pitbull.

It's like RnB/Dance/Rap.

Pitbull - Shut it Down (ft. Akon)

[okgo]

308mate said:

I cant agree with any of Eminiem accolades given here.

I dont think his lyrics are especially good. I dont think his style is especially skillful. I think his tracks are overproduced. He portrays himself as someone who is willing and able to fk the mainstream, not caring what anyone things, yet he is as deep in the mainstream as any other entertainer. His attempt to get his homeboys on his coat tails with D12 was an embarrassment.

Granted, he had some original ideas early on but I think about the only thing he can be credited with is making white kids feel credible for liking like hip hop. Everyone can access rap now, thanks to him.

But how long can he trade on name dropping and whinging about his mum and ex g/f?

Obviously you are entitled to opinion... You are woefully wrong on the first two counts, and any one of any worth in the industry will tell you that. However as you have later said, he did succombe somewhat to the mainstream.. and that is something that cannot be debated..

He can trade on that as long as any black rapper can trade on similar things, plus guns and money, and bhes..and the same way nearly anyone else can trade on stupid love songs about people that don't exist.

One thi to think about, is that the first few albums were meant to show his sides, alter-ego's if you like, Hence the second album titled his name was vey real, yet the thrid album was addressing different issues.

[Sarkmeister]

Baby Huey said:

The Roots - The Seed

www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFb9UqELX8w

Ignore my earlier comment, this is it.

The Roots are awesome live, probably the best band I have seen.....

[Dominic H]

308mate said:

Stu R said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4UqMyldS7Q - Ice Cube - it was a good day.

That was going to be my call but you got there first.

Prefer 'You can do it'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6auk1TkGtVQ&fea...

[Mr Gearchange]

Dominic H said:

308mate said:

Stu R said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4UqMyldS7Q - Ice Cube - it was a good day.

That was going to be my call but you got there first.

Prefer 'You can do it'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6auk1TkGtVQ&fea...

Is that the one where he goes to B&Q?

[Dominic H]

Mr Gearchange said:

Dominic H said:

308mate said:

Stu R said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4UqMyldS7Q - Ice Cube - it was a good day.

That was going to be my call but you got there first.

Prefer 'You can do it'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6auk1TkGtVQ&fea...

Is that the one where he goes to B&Q?

Yep, he takes the car and a few friends.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-afioLMcEc&fea...

Fo' shizzle!

[Soir]

A little commercial, but some of my favourites..

Public Enemy - Burn hollywood Burn
Big Daddy Kane - Ain't no stoppin us now
Young Mc - Know How
LL Cool J - Mama said knock you out
King Bee - Back by dope demand

[JaymzDead]

Couldn't be arsed to trawl the whole topic so there may be some repeats, but here's my choices:

Gravediggaz - Diary Of A Madman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE-5Q_xyiwo

Wu Tang Clan - Protect Ya Neck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GDPZpRmTg0&fea...

Onyx - Throw Ya Guns: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQd43wF5kq0&fea...

NWA - Straight Outta Compton: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMZi25Pq3T8&fea...

Gang Starr - Code Of The Streets: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT4jQld_FiE&fea...

Public Enemy - She Watch Channel Zero: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4azhxMWmu48

[markoc]

Mr Gearchange said:

Jam Spavlin said:

FO SHIZZLE!!!! we're singing for ENGLAND! EN-GER-LAND!

on a more serious note:

Snow - Informer

On the subject of Snow - check this oxygen thief out doing his own version at home. A capella. Loser.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrV7ltgPSUg

Back on topic though, I love De La Soul's "Ring Ring Ring"

[thatone1967]

not a huge rap fan... does Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince ... Summertime qualify?

drums please.........

[308mate]

thatone1967 said:

not a huge rap fan... does Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince ... Summertime qualify?

drums please.........

A true classic.

[Ozone]

Grandmaster Flash - The Message

Run DMC - It's Tricky

Beastie Boys - She's Crafty

[cottonfoo]

JaymzDead said:

Public Enemy - She Watch Channel Zero: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4azhxMWmu48

Lots of good PE on this thread, but I would raise you "Harder Than You Think" over Channel Zero, but only because I'm listening to it right now

She watch she watch she watch she watch she watch ....

[JaymzDead]

cottonfoo said:

JaymzDead said:

Public Enemy - She Watch Channel Zero: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4azhxMWmu48

Lots of good PE on this thread, but I would raise you "Harder Than You Think" over Channel Zero, but only because I'm listening to it right now

She watch she watch she watch she watch she watch ....

I like She Watch over a lot of others simply because it samples the awesomeness that is Slayer - Angel Of Death

[308mate]

okgo said:

308mate said:

I cant agree with any of Eminiem accolades given here.

I dont think his lyrics are especially good. I dont think his style is especially skillful. I think his tracks are overproduced. He portrays himself as someone who is willing and able to fk the mainstream, not caring what anyone things, yet he is as deep in the mainstream as any other entertainer. His attempt to get his homeboys on his coat tails with D12 was an embarrassment.

Granted, he had some original ideas early on but I think about the only thing he can be credited with is making white kids feel credible for liking like hip hop. Everyone can access rap now, thanks to him.

But how long can he trade on name dropping and whinging about his mum and ex g/f?

Obviously you are entitled to opinion... You are woefully wrong on the first two counts,

2pac knocks him into a cocked hat for lyrics. Any number nail him on style and skill(z). IMO.

okgo said:

and any one of any worth in the industry will tell you that.

Thats the trouble with the industry though isnt it? Theyve been fawning over him since he arrived and now cant see the wood for the trees. The industry decides whos hot and whos not. What did the industry say about Lil Wayne?

[useyourdellusion]

308mate said:

Thats the trouble with the industry though isnt it? Theyve been fawning over him since he arrived and now cant see the wood for the trees. The industry decides whos hot and whos not. What did the industry say about Lil Wayne?

Absolutely bang on!

Hence my comment on the industry disappearing up its own arse post 1994ish.

Ego driven - the lot of it now unfortunately.

[okgo]

useyourdellusion said:

308mate said:

Thats the trouble with the industry though isnt it? Theyve been fawning over him since he arrived and now cant see the wood for the trees. The industry decides whos hot and whos not. What did the industry say about Lil Wayne?

Absolutely bang on!

Hence my comment on the industry disappearing up its own arse post 1994ish.

Ego driven - the lot of it now unfortunately.

I see both of your points on this.

However he was scouted by a legend of the genre, so I think he has a litlte more credential than lil wayne.