for fans of heavy music

[RV8]

This aint heavy imo, it just sounds like a boy band with guitars.

Entombed, Carcass (esp. their earlier stuff) Bolt Thrower, Nailbomb and Cannibal Corpse, all sound heavy to me..

[tuscaneer]

i think a lot of this doomy stuff has stty production.very "wooly" sounding to my ears.i agree about the thrashy stuff.20 years ago all i wanted to hear was crazy bpm.i think with the advent of bands like helmet managed to get it slow with a real " bang your head" groove to it all.i don`t think really fast stuff works anymore.it doesn't leave enough room for everything to fill out and become interesting unless it's something with half time drop speeds or the like.this is why i can't take all that blast beat st.technical,yes but musical,no

[Z06George]

Really into Gojira (sp?) and Sylosis at the moment. None of this blast as fast as possible rubbish just proper metal also I'm liking Bleeding Through too just because they have awesome beat downs

[JaymzDead]

Z06George said:

Really into Gojira (sp?) and Sylosis at the moment. None of this blast as fast as possible rubbish just proper metal also I'm liking Bleeding Through too just because they have awesome beat downs

Yep I like all 3 bands. I keep missing Gojira everytime they come over. Bleeding Through are awesome live, one of the most violent mosh pits I've been in since I saw Knuckledust many moons ago!

That Neurosis - To The Wind clip is awesome but the scream he does after the quiet bit is about 30 seconds long on the recorded version, I wonder if he did it in one take?!

Coincidentally Lich King added me on myspace at about the same time as the post appeared about them in this thread. I must admit I hadn't heard them before that, but I will have to search out some of their stuff.

Anyone else into Shrinebuilder? You could say they're the underground equivalent of Them Crooked Vultures. Basically a Stoner Rock supergroup consisting of Scott Kelly from Neurosis, Wino from St Vitus and The Obssessed, Dale Crover from The Melvins and Al Cisneros from Sleep. They actually released their debut at about the same time as Them Crooked Vultures did.

[JaymzDead]

hornet said:

For a bit of light relief, here's thrash legends (ahem) Lawnmower Deth inventing a new sport at Download last weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJx1nVF9T0g

Makes a nice change from angry gurning metalcore

Absolute genius! Wish I could've been there.

[Gompo]

I spoke to one of the Lawnmower Deth guys on 'Yahoo Metal Chat' 7-8 years ago, turns out he lived very close to me. I was a bit disappointed though as he seemed to know nothing about Metal from the last 10 years or so. I'm guessing they did the last LD stuff and called it quits/left the 'scene'.

[JaymzDead]

hornet said:

I'm not entirely sure they were ever really part of a scene in the first place to be honest. The thing I used to like about them was not taking themselves even remotely seriously, especially back then when every thrash band was singing about nuclear war and how we were all doomed. Too many bands (and indeed fans) out there are trying too hard to be metal, rather than just enjoying themselves IMO.

Thermonuclear war is good for your complexion!

[tuscaneer]

fking hell!these lads are doing this now,not 20 odd years ago!tip top!

[militantmandy]

Z06George said:

Really into Gojira (sp?) and Sylosis at the moment. None of this blast as fast as possible rubbish just proper metal also I'm liking Bleeding Through too just because they have awesome beat downs

Gojira rock my world althought the last album isn't quite what I was hoping for. Belter of a live band. Since we seem to have moved on to faster heavy stuff:

Blotted Science:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfummR3Uy6I

For an alternative (not massively!) heavy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2wyzqGFN2o

[RV8]

hornet said:

Well ok, they did kind of sing about nuclear war, but I can't recall Nuclear Assault writing songs about gardening equipment or the physics of weebles


Edit to try and get the thread back on track! More thrash, which is never a bad thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr9wObkGTYM&fea...

That was great guitar work but metal / thrash whereveryouwanttocallit has more commercialized vocals nowadays imo although the stuff they are doing isn't mainstream metal it is tailored to the way people listen to metal now.

Lyrically bands have evolved for years but without any preconceptions of commercial viability - you can hear how Carcass evolved from Symphonies of Sickness to Swan Song.

Old carcass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgwjrDXJej8

Newer carcass (still over a decade old)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc3VB-0GBfU

All of it blows any of this new metal stuff out of the water imho, although it's great to hear new work from British metal bands. For me Boltthrower were and still are the masters of grindcore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bc-ZC1EF18

[militantmandy]

JaymzDead said:

Z06George said:

Really into Gojira (sp?) and Sylosis at the moment. None of this blast as fast as possible rubbish just proper metal also I'm liking Bleeding Through too just because they have awesome beat downs

Yep I like all 3 bands. I keep missing Gojira everytime they come over. Bleeding Through are awesome live, one of the most violent mosh pits I've been in since I saw Knuckledust many moons ago!

That Neurosis - To The Wind clip is awesome but the scream he does after the quiet bit is about 30 seconds long on the recorded version, I wonder if he did it in one take?!

Coincidentally Lich King added me on myspace at about the same time as the post appeared about them in this thread. I must admit I hadn't heard them before that, but I will have to search out some of their stuff.

Anyone else into Shrinebuilder? You could say they're the underground equivalent of Them Crooked Vultures. Basically a Stoner Rock supergroup consisting of Scott Kelly from Neurosis, Wino from St Vitus and The Obssessed, Dale Crover from The Melvins and Al Cisneros from Sleep. They actually released their debut at about the same time as Them Crooked Vultures did.

Re Neurosis...not sure about the scream to be honest. Must must must see them live. They're doing ATP but they and God Speed You... are the only bands on the lineup I know so it would be rather procey for basically 1 band!

[JaymzDead]

militantmandy said:

JaymzDead said:

Z06George said:

Really into Gojira (sp?) and Sylosis at the moment. None of this blast as fast as possible rubbish just proper metal also I'm liking Bleeding Through too just because they have awesome beat downs

Yep I like all 3 bands. I keep missing Gojira everytime they come over. Bleeding Through are awesome live, one of the most violent mosh pits I've been in since I saw Knuckledust many moons ago!

That Neurosis - To The Wind clip is awesome but the scream he does after the quiet bit is about 30 seconds long on the recorded version, I wonder if he did it in one take?!

Coincidentally Lich King added me on myspace at about the same time as the post appeared about them in this thread. I must admit I hadn't heard them before that, but I will have to search out some of their stuff.

Anyone else into Shrinebuilder? You could say they're the underground equivalent of Them Crooked Vultures. Basically a Stoner Rock supergroup consisting of Scott Kelly from Neurosis, Wino from St Vitus and The Obssessed, Dale Crover from The Melvins and Al Cisneros from Sleep. They actually released their debut at about the same time as Them Crooked Vultures did.

Re Neurosis...not sure about the scream to be honest. Must must must see them live. They're doing ATP but they and God Speed You... are the only bands on the lineup I know so it would be rather procey for basically 1 band!

Was thinking the same thing actually Re ATP. I think I'll hold out for the next London gig, but then I've been saying that since Through Silver In Blood in '96 and something always seems to crop up which means I can't go. I WILL make the next London gig though, every live video I've seen of them has been jaw-droppingly good.

[Gompo]

RV8 said:

For me Boltthrower

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bc-ZC1EF18

Probably their best song and album right there.. Was great to see them live last year. I dont entirely agree with you new V old arguement, although as previously mentioned my favourite albums from just about all areas of Metal came out 15+ years ago.

[RV8]

Gompo said:

RV8 said:

For me Boltthrower

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bc-ZC1EF18

Probably their best song and album right there.. Was great to see them live last year. I dont entirely agree with you new V old arguement, although as previously mentioned my favourite albums from just about all areas of Metal came out 15+ years ago.

'for victory' is my favourite track too, although they did a load of great tracks over the years and lyrically they write some great stuff too. Yes, I think most of the albums I still listen too now are 15-20 years old. Entombed, Wolverine Blues is a timeless classic imo.

Some people I know don't seem to understand the reason for oldskool metal vocalists to bark out their lyrics but I always say that if the lyrics are brutal the tone should be brutal too, and this one thing I miss in modern metal even if musically it's technically alright.

[Gompo]

RV8 said:

I always say that if the lyrics are brutal the tone should be brutal too, and this one thing I miss in modern metal even if musically it's technically alright.

I agree and apart from maybe a couple of albums I dont like much of the 'Modern' Metal with clean vocals mixed with more aggressive parts, to me it sounds wrong although I am quite picky when it comes to vocals. I am repeating myself from earlier in this thread. but there are however many modern/recent bands playing very good Death/Grind/Black, some of which could have been written 20 years ago and some of which does seem more up to date.


..And while I am sure Hornet would think differently, Wolverine Blues is my favourite Entombed album and possibly my favoruite album from the Stockholm scene.

[militantmandy]

I'm going to say something potentially controversial here. The vocals on most Carcass, but particularly Swansong....sound like Lilly Savage after a night on the town. There I said it!

NB - i'm not necessarily saying this is a bad thing!

[Z06George]

One of my mates recomended Blotted Science and I have to say they are awesome
http://open.spotify.com/track/7ytBeRlnUnrRfJVHCCQp...
the guy who recomended it is also in this band http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Be9wpD_HU
They are called Maggot Stuffed Ct, it was started as a joke but now they're really popular, Scuzz is even after the video

[militantmandy]

Z06George said:

One of my mates recomended Blotted Science and I have to say they are awesome
http://open.spotify.com/track/7ytBeRlnUnrRfJVHCCQp...
the guy who recomended it is also in this band http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Be9wpD_HU
They are called Maggot Stuffed Ct, it was started as a joke but now they're really popular, Scuzz is even after the video

Fully digging BS for a good while now. Jarzombek is a mentalist.

[Gompo]

hornet said:

Anyone remember the Napalm Death / Slayer documentary on the Beeb many moons ago? Tom Araya said he'd be told his vocals sounded like someone strangling a pig

The infamous 'Arena' documentary, or something else? I'm too young to have seen it when broadcast so dont know the exact content, just aware that ND were on it..

[tuscaneer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd_JKXMEyR8&fea...

the bled. forgot to post these boys up earlier.been into these since pass the flask came out a few years ago.bit different.what do you gentlemen make of them??