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Swervin_Mervin

1,226 posts

124 months

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tuscaneer said:
glad you boys like it!! i think if you go back over the pages the first post up of skyharbor was actually hornet's so i'll doff my cap to you sir!

the cd has not yet turned up from basick yet but i can't wait to hear it at full chat on me good stereo rather than stty youtube.it just exudes quality and i think dan's vocals really suit it.i was sad to see him go from tesseract but i do like elliot the new guy.sounds a lot like jeff buckley if you haven't heard him yet.

that skyharbor st is going to be massive.

on a separate note, i hear deftones are working on the new album right now for autumn release.!!
And they're touring North America with SOAD! eek

hornet

5,957 posts

136 months

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throttlebodies]uscaneer said:
ALBUM NOW OUT!!... this st is flawless


Nice one mate, they are cracking. Dan T from Tesseract on vocals, he's gone on to great things. Indian guitarist, drummer and bassist which is frankly surprising.
Don't think the Indian thing is that surprising to be honest. Look at the festivals Maiden have staged over there - there's a massive metal fanbase. What I'd like to see would be more traditional Indian influences mixed in, as I think it could really work. You have all sorts of mythology and traditions of mysticism that would lend themselves well to areas of doom, Black Metal and power metal, for example.

Few examples floating about on YouTube, although this one stood out for me - Heathen Beast

BigMacDaddy

353 posts

67 months

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Paul Wardingham anyone?

Ghost In The Machine


tuscaneer

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3,914 posts

111 months

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BigMacDaddy said:
This thread just keeps on giving tbh - first it brings Animals As Leaders to my attention, and now this!
Any other recommendations in a similar vein?
st mate, there's loads.


meshuggah
periphery/bulb
uneven structure
visions
tesseract
vildjharta
textures

more to come as i think of them



got the skyharbor cd in the post yesterday and when i stuck it on the grown ups stereo.oh.my.god.

fking epic.truly epic.there is so much going on underneath that just doesn't register on you tube.i had it on in the car and nearly crashed such was the severity of the goosebumpery.
i cannot lie, i had to wipe away a tear of pure joy on the m6 last night.

captainmatt

448 posts

52 months

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Can't get on with what I've heard of skyharbour, and I listen to a lot of this djenty stuff. Just leaves me a bit cold really. Think I might get the album and give it all a proper go but the few songs I've heard just don't interest me that much.

The Safety Fire on the other hand, with their ridiculously titled debut album "Grind the Ocean" are very very good. Album has it all for me really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROR4KWUA9rg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxyrV3Bgf50


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Swervin_Mervin

1,226 posts

124 months

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After listening to the Skyharbor stuff a few times now I think it's a bit too over-involved for my tastes. Maybe I have a short attention span (doubt it as I love everything Tool have churned out) but after a few minutes of widdlying away I find myself getting bored. I think I might have come to the conclusion that Djent is not for me.

Or that it's ok in small doses!

tuscaneer

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3,914 posts

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Swervin_Mervin said:
After listening to the Skyharbor stuff a few times now I think it's a bit too over-involved for my tastes. Maybe I have a short attention span (doubt it as I love everything Tool have churned out) but after a few minutes of widdlying away I find myself getting bored. I think I might have come to the conclusion that Djent is not for me.

Or that it's ok in small doses!
witch!!! burn him!!

tuscaneer

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captainmatt said:
Can't get on with what I've heard of skyharbour, and I listen to a lot of this djenty stuff. Just leaves me a bit cold really. Think I might get the album and give it all a proper go but the few songs I've heard just don't interest me that much.

The Safety Fire on the other hand, with their ridiculously titled debut album "Grind the Ocean" are very very good. Album has it all for me really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROR4KWUA9rg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxyrV3Bgf50
i'm on the safety fire express...choo choo

seriously good. just not enough low end register for me. too "pinched" sounding?? needs the added verbosity of a 7 or 8 string guitar section.i think that is a 5 string bass already but hard to hear the depth of register on computer speakers

hornet

5,957 posts

136 months

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These guys pinged me through YouTube :-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObTBzDxNtRg&fea...

Not sure I'm overly sold on it, but interesting mix of the more clinical modern "crunch" and female vocals. Album is free to download, so probably worth a further look.

Can't say that Safety Fire stuff does much for me, but I'm probably not the main demographic. Sounds a bit too safe, ironically enough.

Creepy crawly death metal time!

Obfuscation
Phlebotomized
Exoto
Krabathor



AnimalMkIV

479 posts

30 months

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For the Thrashers in here, I can recommend Bludvera from Liverpool. Very Teutonic in sound - vocalist definitely influenced by Schmier (Destruction), but there is some brilliant riffs going on. Definitely one to keep an eye on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsvzLJTRG0U&fea...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsvzLJTRG0U&fea...


7 track EP available for just £3
http://bludvera.bandcamp.com/album/terrorform

hornet

5,957 posts

136 months

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AnimalMkIV said:
For the Thrashers in here, I can recommend Bludvera from Liverpool. Very Teutonic in sound - vocalist definitely influenced by Schmier (Destruction), but there is some brilliant riffs going on. Definitely one to keep an eye on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsvzLJTRG0U&fea...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsvzLJTRG0U&fea...
Holy 1987 Batman!

Liking that smile

Artwork has something of the Macabre about it as well.

hornet

5,957 posts

136 months

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One for fans of tightness, clean sound, tight vocals, neat modern metal haircuts and technical sensibilities...possibly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjbfAgcu7Es&fea...

drumsterphil

346 posts

109 months

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I'm going through a major Scar Symmetry phase at the moment - they started off with one of the best metal vocalists I've heard (and had to be replaced by two vocalists to do the high/lo split when he left) -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85h5KYI0bHU&fea...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WAwU4uduCE&fea...

and with two vocalists -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuaC8ScjTdU&fea...

Their albums are definitely growers tho....

Swervin_Mervin

1,226 posts

124 months

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tuscaneer said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
After listening to the Skyharbor stuff a few times now I think it's a bit too over-involved for my tastes. Maybe I have a short attention span (doubt it as I love everything Tool have churned out) but after a few minutes of widdlying away I find myself getting bored. I think I might have come to the conclusion that Djent is not for me.

Or that it's ok in small doses!
witch!!! burn him!!
:lol:

It's funny isn't it how subtle differences can draw such different reactions? Of all the stuff posted on here, that posted by yourself is probably most similar to what I like. Arguably it's also down to yourself that I now have 3 Protest albums and Karnivool's first effort. But I think, having taken the time to properly sample a few bands, djent is a step too far for me.

Apache

38,910 posts

170 months

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Swervin_Mervin said:
After listening to the Skyharbor stuff a few times now I think it's a bit too over-involved for my tastes. Maybe I have a short attention span (doubt it as I love everything Tool have churned out) but after a few minutes of widdlying away I find myself getting bored. I think I might have come to the conclusion that Djent is not for me.

Or that it's ok in small doses!
Tool is perfect for those of us with the attention span of a, oh look a squirrel! they have such diversity that it leaves you gagging for their next album......dammit!!

hornet

5,957 posts

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I actually really like that Skyharbor stuff, as well as Encircle and a few others, but that's about as much of the style I can really tolerate. Still don't get Gojira either, but there you go. Still like it old school, raw and dirty at the end of the day smile

JaymzDead

1,086 posts

86 months

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hornet said:
One for fans of tightness, clean sound, tight vocals, neat modern metal haircuts and technical sensibilities...possibly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjbfAgcu7Es&fea...
Lovely, proper sludgey goodness!

hornet

5,957 posts

136 months

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JaymzDead said:
Lovely, proper sludgey goodness!
Great isn't it! That's probably my favourite Weedeater song as well, as the album version is stunning. Just has that something about it that I don't get from the hyper clean, hyper technical stuff. Feels like a living, breathing thing rather than just a "look at how precise and free from dandruff we are" note perfect run through. Has so much more character to it.

tuscaneer

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Swervin_Mervin said:
tuscaneer said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
After listening to the Skyharbor stuff a few times now I think it's a bit too over-involved for my tastes. Maybe I have a short attention span (doubt it as I love everything Tool have churned out) but after a few minutes of widdlying away I find myself getting bored. I think I might have come to the conclusion that Djent is not for me.

Or that it's ok in small doses!
witch!!! burn him!!
:lol:

It's funny isn't it how subtle differences can draw such different reactions? Of all the stuff posted on here, that posted by yourself is probably most similar to what I like. Arguably it's also down to yourself that I now have 3 Protest albums and Karnivool's first effort. But I think, having taken the time to properly sample a few bands, djent is a step too far for me.
it's definately a weird one.vocals make or break most stuff for me which is ironic as i don't give a stuff about the singer or what he's prattling on about.vocals for me are about extrapolating backwards from the riffs.sewing up all the blocks and shifts of the other instruments.it's like there is a thousand melody line possibilities with the chord shifts and it's the singers job to find the most interesting route through it all.


that's why i find chino from deftones fascinating but the guy from chimaira a one trick pony.just barking away is missing out on so many melodic possibilities.and while i'm on the subject of barking that grinds my gears as well.

the more "real" hardcore end of things i'm ok with but some of the death/black stuff i just can't listen to because to my ears(i realize i'm in a minority in this thread)it sounds so contrived.the worst stuff is the dheads who put put an overly deep/gruff "look at how scary and hard i am...oooohhh!!" tilt on things(stuff like that bloke from death)

wheras the tesseract dude or the fella from uneven structure still scream and shout but it doesn't sound as daft.and also it is interspersed with melody lines.there seems to be reasoned methodical planning to everything rather than just monotone bbblluuurrrgghh!!

same goes for guitar players going down the lead line/ solo route.kerry king and jeff hanneman are both absolutely bks lead guitarists.it's just mindless twiddle whereas jeff beck or frank zappa can pull three notes out of a chord sequence and make me go...""fk!!!genius!" it's all about extentions of the chord shifts and melody lines


when it comes to djent the reason i love it so much is the rhythms.pure and simple.as a guitarist i always veered towards the bands like helmet ,downset and anything where the guitars had staccato groove to them.choke everything down with palm muting and get your chug on.....

like this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhJ6xpitT3k

or this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fninRnmVRHw

now,throw into the mix fked up time changes....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugio4fFSLFQ



and you can start to see where i'm coming from!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfOnq-zXXBw&fea...

^^^this stuff just hasn't quite got it's head on straight in terms of settled time signatures.and i'm obsessed!!(and it's full of stabby guitars/rhythms too!!)



Edited by tuscaneer on Friday 4th May 06:50

tuscaneer

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this song pulls everything together i NEED in a song....chugs, rhythmic complexity and production values to the sound that would make john williams proud.not to mention a fking gorgeous vocal,huge multi octave chords and gloroius chord changes.

it's the first song off the album

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-UJoY5WP5s
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