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drumsterphil
331 posts
93 months
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hornet said: That's just as much an image though - the gritty backdrop, the tough guy posturing and the scowling. You still know exactly what they're going to sound like by looking at them. Formulaic, angry and crap??  (Just a suggestion....)
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hornet
5,524 posts
120 months
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tuscaneer said: HA HA!! you and hornet are a pair of weird f  kers!!! me?? i'm happy watching a band play in track suits and trainers but each to their own fella!! You secretly want to watch the Spasm guy in a mankini and gimp mask again don't you  I think it's fair to say most/all metal genres have their own image. For example, any band that looks like this (monohair!) :-  Will generally sound like This and sing about nothing but being betrayed by someone/thing again. Whereas one that looks like this...  ...will actually be good. Oh, and found that tea-bagging with a floor touch video. Be interesting to see what move The Browning can incorporate in their next video. Double Salchow into tea bag floor touch maybe? Game on!
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CommanderJameson
20,991 posts
96 months
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Irony of ironies: I didn't know the correct spelling of the figure skating term "Salchow" until I read it here in the "for fans of heavy music" thread.
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militantmandy
2,930 posts
56 months
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RE the dildos above with the stupid hair......WTF? Both aurally and visually turdlike in the extreme. In fact, no, there's nothing extreme about them! How can they look back at that video\photoshoot and think "yeah, that looks awesome"?
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Gompo
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128 months
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hornet
5,524 posts
120 months
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militantmandy said: RE the dildos above with the stupid hair......WTF? Both aurally and visually turdlike in the extreme. In fact, no, there's nothing extreme about them! How can they look back at that video\photoshoot and think "yeah, that looks awesome"? It would appear none of these bands have functioning shoulders either. What's with that?
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tuscaneer
Original Poster
3,371 posts
95 months
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drumsterphil said: hornet said: That's just as much an image though - the gritty backdrop, the tough guy posturing and the scowling. You still know exactly what they're going to sound like by looking at them. Formulaic, angry and crap?? (Just a suggestion....) oooohh!! you cheeky b d!! that's downset you've just dared to disrespect HEATHEN!! one word...and ironically that word is....anger!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6IQxhkVIEw
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tuscaneer
Original Poster
3,371 posts
95 months
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hornet said: tuscaneer said: HA HA!! you and hornet are a pair of weird f kers!!! me?? i'm happy watching a band play in track suits and trainers but each to their own fella!! You secretly want to watch the Spasm guy in a mankini and gimp mask again don't you I think it's fair to say most/all metal genres have their own image. For example, any band that looks like this (monohair!) :- Will generally sound like This and sing about nothing but being betrayed by someone/thing again. Whereas one that looks like this... ...will actually be good. Oh, and found that tea-bagging with a floor touch video. Be interesting to see what move The Browning can incorporate in their next video. Double Salchow into tea bag floor touch maybe? Game on! where do you discover all this s te??!! and why do all their haircuts point in the same dircetion?? that bottom one looks like we did back in '89....i had a powerslave back patch on my denim and ,quite frankly, i looked the dogs b ks!
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tuscaneer
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95 months
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Gompo said: tuscaneer said: HA HA!! you and hornet are a pair of weird f kers!!! me?? i'm happy watching a band play in track suits and trainers but each to their own fella!! It's just theatrics, a show, obviously you don't get it/don't care. Do I? Yes and know, but if I were watching Black Metal live I'd prefer some atmosphere and theatrics rather than the band coming out in jeans and t-shirt and making no effort at all. It makes more of a spectacle, most of these guys dress relatively normal in everyday public. It's fairly similar to some of these hardcore/nu metal/whatever bands who come out trying to look tough or with/have an attitude, pumping weights in videos etc. you know what, i think i've worked it out......i don't know where all you chaps are from but i'm a no nonsense northern type! i like to get straight down to business with minimum fuss; i don't like fakeness and i think therein lies the problem. everyone seems to have focussed on my disdain for the costumes but my biggest problem to start with is vocals that sound contrived.give me........anyone...er....seeing as it's a hot topic at the moment, jens from meshuggah..like his vocal delivery as it seems honest in a way that that someone like that tart from arch enemy sounds f king ridiculous. and all that f king make up doesn't help these bands much either!! it's the same way i hate wwe style wrestling.i'm a boxer and as such like no nonsense spit and sawdust fighting.not roided up scrotes pretending to break chairs over each others heads... i don't like image and i don't like spectacle...... but then i suppose that image free image is an image in itself!
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BorkFactor
5,059 posts
28 months
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I have recently been getting into Metallica again - especially the Ride the Lightning album and the Black album. Used to listen to them a lot, stopped for a while, and now I have been listening to nothing but for the past week or so 
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tuscaneer
Original Poster
3,371 posts
95 months
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CrabDan said: Decent band. Again, Meshuggah influence in there. The reason Meshuggah will always be the best is because they are first and foremost, the originators of the sound that has become to be known as "Djent," a sub-genre we now associate with bands like Periphery, TesseracT, Chimp Spanner, Animals As Leaders and so on... In terms of influencing a whole new generation of musicians, that puts them up there with Sabbath as far as I'm concerned. But the MAIN reason they'll always be the best is because Tomas Haake is their drummer IMO. Without him Meshuggah would be - And please excuse the Meshuggah-related pun here - "Nothing." It's the groove that makes Meshuggah for me, rather than the apparent complexity of the music - Granted, it takes a certain (rather high) level of skill to be able to play those songs, but to make them groove as naturally as Haake does is what I would refer to as "next level ability." Koloss, Meshuggah's latest album, isn't all that complex really (and to that end is seems to have marginally divided their fanbase) but it still has crushing groove. Check this little beauty out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap7Z5S6yTZM&fea...Sometimes the drummer really does make the band (see also, The Police, and Deftones). kind of agree about haake being the glue in meshuggah.as a guitar player there isn't enough going on sonically for me to be totally immersed in them though ironically i've been on obzen all weekend! oh, and you're wrong about abe cunningham making deftones...cracking drummer but he or carpenter on their own are not complete without the other.deftones for me is about the riffs and chino's wacko vocal melodies
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tuscaneer
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3,371 posts
95 months
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Z06George said: I know I'm a bit behind but after seeing them today I'm really getting into Periphery, many fans here? and yes,i'm a periphery nutcase!! check out bulb's solo stuff as well(loads on youtube)
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tuscaneer
Original Poster
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95 months
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BorkFactor said: I have recently been getting into Metallica again - especially the Ride the Lightning album and the Black album. Used to listen to them a lot, stopped for a while, and now I have been listening to nothing but for the past week or so i have had a retropective myself this weekend....re-discovered loads of old vinyl i haven't listened to in years
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tuscaneer
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95 months
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drumsterphil
331 posts
93 months
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tuscaneer said: you know what, i think i've worked it out......i don't know where all you chaps are from but i'm a no nonsense northern type! i like to get straight down to business with minimum fuss; i don't like fakeness and i think therein lies the problem. everyone seems to have focussed on my disdain for the costumes but my biggest problem to start with is vocals that sound contrived.give me........anyone...er....seeing as it's a hot topic at the moment, jens from meshuggah..like his vocal delivery as it seems honest in a way that that someone like that tart from arch enemy sounds f king ridiculous. and all that f king make up doesn't help these bands much either!! it's the same way i hate wwe style wrestling.i'm a boxer and as such like no nonsense spit and sawdust fighting.not roided up scrotes pretending to break chairs over each others heads... i don't like image and i don't like spectacle...... but then i suppose that image free image is an image in itself! Funny, I'm a North-Easterner but then I love all the spectacle and make-up (but then I'm into the EBM/Industrial dance scene were theatrics and visuals are a major part of the appeal - believe me, if you saw my two stage get-ups for Null White and Ashes of Insurrection you couldn't tell I'm the same person...  ). Dissing Angela Gossow - that's a new low even for you!.... lol Tbh it took me ages to get used to Jens's vocal delivery but there's not really a more brutal singer on the planet were you can at least make out the words still..
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hornet
5,524 posts
120 months
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tuscaneer said: where do you discover all this s te??!! and why do all their haircuts point in the same dircetion?? Too much time standing around in windswept derelict warehouses, obviously The bottom one is WitchSorrow, and they're most excellent, in a "no nonsense old school doom" sort of way. Think old Cathedral. Indeed, lot of good doom bands in the UK at the moment, possibly as a reaction to the glossy, polished faux angry stuff like the aforementioned Asking Alexandria, BFMV, Bring me the Horizon, Born of Osiris and so on. If you're NOT a hormone ravaged student and think there's more to metal that unidirectional hair, flesh tunnels and "yeah, but [singer x] has really good highs and lows brah", doom is a very welcoming place. Too many bands have this obsession with cramming everything into every song. Each song has to be eight minutes long and have the fast bit, the slow bit, the guitar sweeps, the scream, the growl and the soaring clean bit. Doom lets things breathe and has a sense of space about it that I enjoy. Why I can't enjoy the newer wave of tech death bands. I was trying to listen to Fleshgod Apocalypse and Dawn of Possession last night, and it's all very impressive, but it's just endless hyper blasting and guitar flourishes the entire time. Doubtless fiendishly difficult to play, but doesn't really add anything. You don't really get songs emerging, just a series of "look at me!" hyper technical workouts, and I can't really connect with that. Doom feels more honest.
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DannyScene
1,776 posts
25 months
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Dan_1981 said: Well this could be expensive - i've just started to download the following:
(deep breath)
As I lay Dying - An ocean between us
Insomnium - Across the dark
Kalmah - The Black Waltz
All that Remains - Overcome
The Used - Vulnerable
NOFX - Greatest Songs ever written (By Us)
Asking Alexandria - reckless & Relentless
Kill Switch Engage - Kill Switch Engage
SNFU - Something green & leafy this way comes
Decendents - Everythign Sucks
I can vouch for As I Lay Dying - An Ocean Between Us, one of my favourite albums since it came out All That Remains - If thats the album with 'This calling' on it then its class Asking Alexandria I like quite a lot but you'll find no love for them on here
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DannyScene
1,776 posts
25 months
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tuscaneer said: hornet said: tuscaneer said: HA HA!! you and hornet are a pair of weird f kers!!! me?? i'm happy watching a band play in track suits and trainers but each to their own fella!! You secretly want to watch the Spasm guy in a mankini and gimp mask again don't you I think it's fair to say most/all metal genres have their own image. For example, any band that looks like this (monohair!) :- Will generally sound like This and sing about nothing but being betrayed by someone/thing again. Whereas one that looks like this... ...will actually be good. Oh, and found that tea-bagging with a floor touch video. Be interesting to see what move The Browning can incorporate in their next video. Double Salchow into tea bag floor touch maybe? Game on! where do you discover all this s te??!! and why do all their haircuts point in the same dircetion?? that bottom one looks like we did back in '89....i had a powerslave back patch on my denim and ,quite frankly, i looked the dogs b ks! The guy far lefts hair goes the other way 
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tuscaneer
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3,371 posts
95 months
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hornet said: tuscaneer said: where do you discover all this s te??!! and why do all their haircuts point in the same dircetion?? Too much time standing around in windswept derelict warehouses, obviously The bottom one is WitchSorrow, and they're most excellent, in a "no nonsense old school doom" sort of way. Think old Cathedral. Indeed, lot of good doom bands in the UK at the moment, possibly as a reaction to the glossy, polished faux angry stuff like the aforementioned Asking Alexandria, BFMV, Bring me the Horizon, Born of Osiris and so on. If you're NOT a hormone ravaged student and think there's more to metal that unidirectional hair, flesh tunnels and "yeah, but [singer x] has really good highs and lows brah", doom is a very welcoming place. Too many bands have this obsession with cramming everything into every song. Each song has to be eight minutes long and have the fast bit, the slow bit, the guitar sweeps, the scream, the growl and the soaring clean bit. Doom lets things breathe and has a sense of space about it that I enjoy. Why I can't enjoy the newer wave of tech death bands. I was trying to listen to Fleshgod Apocalypse and Dawn of Possession last night, and it's all very impressive, but it's just endless hyper blasting and guitar flourishes the entire time. Doubtless fiendishly difficult to play, but doesn't really add anything. You don't really get songs emerging, just a series of "look at me!" hyper technical workouts, and I can't really connect with that. Doom feels more honest. i don't even want to know what a "flesh tunnel" is!!! totally get the room to breathe statement.i tried to listen to dillinger and was just exhausted.i mowed the lawn on sunday with my headphones on listening to meshuggah.i've never got the job done so fast!! this is why i love deftones.they aren't scared to just slow it right down and let chords just hang there.the 100 miles an hour all the time approach misses a major trick for me.. this is why i like the "thall" approach to djent...loads of bends and breathable space and such like kind of like this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKCm-JOxjSQ
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tuscaneer
Original Poster
3,371 posts
95 months
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DannyScene said: tuscaneer said: hornet said: tuscaneer said: HA HA!! you and hornet are a pair of weird f kers!!! me?? i'm happy watching a band play in track suits and trainers but each to their own fella!! You secretly want to watch the Spasm guy in a mankini and gimp mask again don't you I think it's fair to say most/all metal genres have their own image. For example, any band that looks like this (monohair!) :- Will generally sound like This and sing about nothing but being betrayed by someone/thing again. Whereas one that looks like this... ...will actually be good. Oh, and found that tea-bagging with a floor touch video. Be interesting to see what move The Browning can incorporate in their next video. Double Salchow into tea bag floor touch maybe? Game on! where do you discover all this s te??!! and why do all their haircuts point in the same dircetion?? that bottom one looks like we did back in '89....i had a powerslave back patch on my denim and ,quite frankly, i looked the dogs b ks! The guy far lefts hair goes the other way ha!! that silly must have been facing the other way when the wind tunnel was turned on!
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