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JaymzDead

1,216 posts

200 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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For me it started with my Dad listening to old Quo and Deep Purple from this I got into hair metal with the likes of Motley Crue, Poison and GN'R.
I was 14 when grunge broke in '91 so this played a major part, chiefly Alice In Chains and Soundgarden and at about the same time I got into thrash through Metallica, Slayer, Testament and Pantera then I progessed swiftly on to death metal with the likes of Obituary, Morbid Angel, Carcass and Death. Also listened to quite a bit of industrial for a time from the 'commercial' side: early NIN, Ministry and Pop Will Eat Itself through to Front 242, Murder Inc, The Young Gods and KMFDM.
At about the same time as the grunge explosion and probably partly down to those bands name-checking others I discovered east coast hardcore and post hardcore through Sick Of It All, Agnostic Front, the Cro-Mags, Fugazi and Quicksand this lead to the more experimental metal/noisy side of the genre with late 90s bands like Earth Crisis, Turmoil, Kiss It Goodbye, Dillinger Escape Plan and Candiria. Through these bands and also my love of Sepultura I heard about Neurosis, so when a copy of Through Silver In Blood appeared when it was released I bought it out of curiosity and was completely blown away by the power, ferocity and downright unsettling nature of the music contained within.
Then through Pantera and Phil in particular I got turned onto the sludgecore scene and through listening to Down I got into Acid Bath, Crowbar, Eyehategod and Corrosion Of Conformity. Really the latest chapter in my musical journey in the last few years has led me to a genre which a lot of people looking at my musical taste and age probably would've expected me to be into almost from it's inception and that's Black Metal. It is only since hanging out and being in bands with people who've really been into it that I have really 'got' it. Before I guess I just couldn't get past the bad production values but now it all seems to make sense. The first band for me and one I've always liked really was Emperor but I quickly discovered Immortal, Burzum, Dimmu Borgir, Celtic Frost and Mayhem then moved onto more obscure stuff like Nargaroth, Windir, Destroyer666 and Drudkh then onto more recent stuff like Goatwe, Wolves In The Throne Room, Cobalt and Epheles.
I still search out new bands from most of the sub genres I've mentioned and recently I've had a bit of a resurgent interest in metallic hardcore through the likes of The Acacia Strain, Skycamefalling and Your Demise. I think that's about covers everything, sorry hope I didn't bore anyone!

Edited by JaymzDead on Monday 19th April 12:08

tuscaneer

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7,753 posts

225 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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just had a little blimp and i really like that your demise stuff.very reminiscent of hatebreed and the throwdown stuff before their last pantera-esque leanings.

i spent a lot of time on the post hardcore stuff and when quicksand put out slip in ,what `92? my world changed forever.the biscuits had been just about my favourite hardcore band and walter`s reinvention here was epic.quicksand was probably my biggest musical influence in terms of music i wrote in my band.les pauls and rickenbackers.heaven!

interesting you mention early nin and ministry.had land of rape and honey and new world order by ministry and was a little bit into industrial as a passing phase.nine inch nails however meant much more to me.outside of heavy music i had always been a post-vince depeche mode fan(and still am to this day).when pretty hate machine arrived i was very very into it.a natural progression taking depeche modes darker side a bit darker and heavier.really impressed with reznor and in particular his instrumental soundscapes.
i can also see big links between deftones and depeche mode and it was only reading an interview with chino years later that i realized that they were just about his biggest musical influence.

sorry to ramble on but i`m really intersted in all of this musical roots stuff!

Edited by tuscaneer on Monday 19th April 12:49

JaymzDead

1,216 posts

200 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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hornet said:
Heavy is indeed subjective. For me, "heavy" has become primarily doom metal, but that's as I've got older, as I always used to love old death metal and grindcore. You've got the ultra, ultra slow drone stuff such as Esoteric, Moss, Sunn o))) and Monarch, who I really can't listen to very often, but above that I'd class the likes of Electric Wizard, Ramesses, Ufomammut, Weedeater, Unearthly Trance and suchlike to be "properly" heavy. For want of a better description, I need a more organic sound to my heaviness, so the clean stuff just doesn't cut it. I want a song to vibrate the floor, not sound like it was conceived on a hard drive. I still like a lot of death and grindcore, but generally the stuff I used to listen to. I can't stand the Nile/Belphegor approach, as there's no feeling to it. I find old Entombed and Grave much more satisfying as the songs actually go places. Anyway, in terms of sheer ferocity, I still don't think anything has bettered Napalm Death's Peel Sessions.

My tastes have probably taken a fairly similar direction to others here. Started listening to Maiden around 1986 (and still listen to them to this day), then the usual suspects such as Metallica, Anthrax, Megadeth and Slayer. That let on to the late 80s thrash stuff like Dark Angel, Nuclear Assault, Forbidden (still great!) and local heroes Acid Reign. Moved from thrash to the early Scandinavian death metal stuff at the start of the nineties (Entombed, Grave, Dismember, At the Gates etc), then deeper into general death and grindcore (Napalm Death, Carcass etc) and also Black Metal when it all started getting silly in about 1993 - Emperor, Burzum, Darkthrone, Beherit sort of stuff. Drifted into doomier waters these days, having previously hated it. Tended to stay there up to now, more or less, although I'm getting back into Black Metal again, albeit only stuff with that old Darkthrone ambience. Could never do the Marduk / Immortal stuff, as it just seemed pointless. I've tended to leave the bulk of modern mainstream metal alone, as very little of it interests me these days, mostly because it all seems to follow a very similar blueprint, either being clean and bleaty or continual blasts and pig squaling. I have never liked power metal and never will smile
LOL got to agree on the power metal thing the majority of it is very cringe-worthy if you ask me, my tastes do border on it because I like Maiden and Queensryche but ste like Hammerfall and Dragonforce can f*** right off!

For more modern black and post black stuff have you might want to try Wolves In The Throne Room and Altar Of Plagues, both have much more ambience to them than a lot of the current mainstream stuff, also Cobalt would probably be worth a listen.

P.S UKAC FTW!!! Acid Reign are epic!

tuscaneer

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7,753 posts

225 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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what was that album with the infantile painting on it? moshkenstein or something?? i really was into that pink album that was all serious.obnoxious??

JaymzDead

1,216 posts

200 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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hornet said:
Sorry, replying to myself, but anyone else like Agalloch? Check out "Falling Snow".
Just checking out their website, the track that's playing 'Ashes Against The Grain' wins muchly so far.

On a (slightly) related note anyone else checked our Triptykon yet? On the strength of the 2 tracks I've listened to on myspace I shall definatly be purchasing the album.

Gompo

4,410 posts

258 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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I like Agalloch.

Triptykon does sound exactly how you'd expect - Celtic Frost..

I listened to both 'Monotheist' once when it came out and listened to the Triptykon album a couple of weeks back, I definitely prefer the latter.

Gompo

4,410 posts

258 months

chevronb37

6,471 posts

186 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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I cannot describe how happy it makes me to see Neurosis and Kiss it Goodbye name-checked in a Pistonheads thread. I love that late-1990s noisecore stuff - Botch, Cave-In, Deadguy, etc. Great, inventive time for music. This week I've been listening to The Plight, Melvins and Toto. Must be getting old...

JaymzDead

1,216 posts

200 months

Tuesday 20th April 2010
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chevronb37 said:
Toto. Must be getting old...
biglaugh Don't worry I caught myself singing along to Spandau Ballet the other day!

Not all new but stuff I have been rocking recently:

The Acacia Strain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg0oDQk4jLA

Skycamefalling: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzOZmiyEksM

Altar Of Plagues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy1Ob9RuPFY

Nargaroth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2FO44ZOXAU

Between The Buried & Me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovq8QlYE_q4

gbbird

5,186 posts

244 months

Tuesday 20th April 2010
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I only remember snippets of my descent into the world that is Metal smile It began when I was about 11 or 12 , and I believe Mr Ritchie Blackmore and Rainbow’s Down To Earth (All Night Long and Since You Been Gone in particular) were the main protagonists, although prior to that my older brother had got me into Meatloaf’s Bat Out Of Hell.
Soon after getting into Rainbow, a whole host of guitar influenced musical opportunities presented themselves, and I started to listen to bits of Led Zep, Deep Purple and Black Sabbath, along with other more current rock/metal bands such as Whitesnake, Bon Jovi and Europe. At around the same time, I decided I wanted to learn to play the guitar so I too could be a rock god like Messrs Blackmore or Page. I took to the guitar pretty well, and my style soon became apparent as leaning towards to the heavier side of strumming, so my musical tastes followed suit. I remember buying my first Iron Maiden album – 7th Son – and at first I didn’t like it at all, finding it just too heavy. But I soon got into it, and then the floodgates really opened up as a started to hang around with individuals with similar musical leanings, and with whom I later formed my first band. I began to listen to Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer when I was about 15, and it went downhill from there as I soon adopted the mantra of the heavier the better. I shunned the indie scene, and broadened my metal horizons with bands such as Mordred, Sepultura, Toranaga, CoC, Deicide, Anacrusis, Morbid Angel, Death Angel, Paradise Lost, Cancer, Kreator, Pantera, Candlemass, Sacred Reich, Death, Soundgarden, Biohazard, the mighty BATHORY and of course the even mightier SABBAT. I continued to like the hair metal too, such as Skid Row and MSG, and one band that sticks out in this category is LEATHERWOLF – still one of my all time faves to this day. I really liked the technical thrash stuff, so Atheist, Cynic, Pestilence and Watchtower were frequently on my cassette deck. These kept me going through my student years, and I was in a number of bands which I like to think drew on most of these influences.

I then got into the Christian Thrash scene, thanks mainly to the mighty BELIEVER, and listened to groups like Sacrament, Tourniquet and Living Sacrifice. Also in this category were Detritus, which I first got into at school but never really realised they were Christian

Some years later I discovered the Swedish/Scandinavian Metal scene, thanks to Dark Tranquility, Amon Amarth, At The Gates etc, and from that I began to delve into Black Metal, mainly Emperor, Ulver, Borknagar, Burzum etc. I explored a number of bands on the Displeased Records label, for example Consolation, Nembrionic Hammerdeath, Altar, Rhadamantys, Celestial Season, Infernal Majesty etc.

I started to give the nu-metal stuff and some of the newer thrash bands a go, liking some but not all, but I always ended up going back to the classics and buying up the back catalogues of bands such as Dark Angel, Celtic Frost, .

Other relatively ‘recent’ bands who I appreciate are Machinehead, Deftones, System Of A Down, Avenged Sevenfold, and Mastodon to name but a few.

I continue to listen to almost any genre of metal, as long as it’s good and packs a punch. Some do it for me, some do not – it matters not what genre it is.


Edited by gbbird on Tuesday 20th April 09:09

tuscaneer

Original Poster:

7,753 posts

225 months

Tuesday 20th April 2010
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i heard the acacia strain the other day and was quite impressed.

glaring omission from the other day by the way....meantime by helmet.first time i heard that staccato guitar on unsung my mind went into overdrive.i can`t honestly remember a song prior to this with that same guitar style.definately influenced what`s happening today.it`s 20 years old now!!

JaymzDead

1,216 posts

200 months

Tuesday 20th April 2010
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tuscaneer said:
i heard the acacia strain the other day and was quite impressed.

glaring omission from the other day by the way....meantime by helmet.first time i heard that staccato guitar on unsung my mind went into overdrive.i can`t honestly remember a song prior to this with that same guitar style.definately influenced what`s happening today.it`s 20 years old now!!
Yes, I forgot them too. Meantime is a pretty seminal album, criminally underated IMHO.

WRT The Acacia Strain, it's a shame the last album seems to veer more towards the more traditional 'tough guy' hardcore style and seems to forgo a lot of the eccentricity which endeared me to them on the first 3 albums.

tuscaneer

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7,753 posts

225 months

Tuesday 20th April 2010
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i only came across them on scuzz the other night actually.can`t remember the song title but it was very chaotic in a very organized way,if you know what i mean!!

another pearler from the old revalation hardcore days was burn.the drummer went on to be in quicksand and the singer went on to form orange 9mm with chris traynor,who was in helmet.it`s all one big circle you know!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xearzoqI3KY

if you aren`t up on orange 9mm here is some old stuff.quite different in it`s day

tuscaneer

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7,753 posts

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Tuesday 20th April 2010
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and who can forget this gem by downswet??!!! AAANNNGGGEEERRRR!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6IQxhkVIEw&fea...

Edited by tuscaneer on Tuesday 20th April 09:12

tuscaneer

Original Poster:

7,753 posts

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Tuesday 20th April 2010
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gbbird said:
I only remember snippets of my descent into the world that is Metal smile It began when I was about 11 or 12 , and I believe Mr Ritchie Blackmore and Rainbow’s Down To Earth (All Night Long and Since You Been Gone in particular) were the main protagonists, although prior to that my older brother had got me into Meatloaf’s Bat Out Of Hell.
Soon after getting into Rainbow, a whole host of guitar influenced musical opportunities presented themselves, and I started to listen to bits of Led Zep, Deep Purple and Black Sabbath, along with other more current rock/metal bands such as Whitesnake, Bon Jovi and Europe. At around the same time, I decided I wanted to learn to play the guitar so I too could be a rock god like Messrs Blackmore or Page. I took to the guitar pretty well, and my style soon became apparent as leaning towards to the heavier side of strumming, so my musical tastes followed suit. I remember buying my first Iron Maiden album – 7th Son – and at first I didn’t like it at all, finding it just too heavy. But I soon got into it, and then the floodgates really opened up as a started to hang around with individuals with similar musical leanings, and with whom I later formed my first band. I began to listen to Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer when I was about 15, and it went downhill from there as I soon adopted the mantra of the heavier the better. I shunned the indie scene, and broadened my metal horizons with bands such as Mordred, Sepultura, Toranaga, CoC, Deicide, Anacrusis, Morbid Angel, Death Angel, Paradise Lost, Cancer, Kreator, Pantera, Candlemass, Sacred Reich, Death, Soundgarden, Biohazard, the mighty BATHORY and of course the even mightier SABBAT. I continued to like the hair metal too, such as Skid Row and MSG, and one band that sticks out in this category is LEATHERWOLF – still one of my all time faves to this day. I really liked the technical thrash stuff, so Atheist, Cynic, Pestilence and Watchtower were frequently on my cassette deck. These kept me going through my student years, and I was in a number of bands which I like to think drew on most of these influences.

I then got into the Christian Thrash scene, thanks mainly to the mighty BELIEVER, and listened to groups like Sacrament, Tourniquet and Living Sacrifice. Also in this category were Detritus, which I first got into at school but never really realised they were Christian

Some years later I discovered the Swedish/Scandinavian Metal scene, thanks to Dark Tranquility, Amon Amarth, At The Gates etc, and from that I began to delve into Black Metal, mainly Emperor, Ulver, Borknagar, Burzum etc. I explored a number of bands on the Displeased Records label, for example Consolation, Nembrionic Hammerdeath, Altar, Rhadamantys, Celestial Season, Infernal Majesty etc.

I started to give the nu-metal stuff and some of the newer thrash bands a go, liking some but not all, but I always ended up going back to the classics and buying up the back catalogues of bands such as Dark Angel, Celtic Frost, .

Other relatively ‘recent’ bands who I appreciate are Machinehead, Deftones, System Of A Down, Avenged Sevenfold, and Mastodon to name but a few.

I continue to listen to almost any genre of metal, as long as it’s good and packs a punch. Some do it for me, some do not – it matters not what genre it is.


Edited by gbbird on Tuesday 20th April 09:09
mordred!! i`d forgotten them.didn`t their album have a jester on the front?fking great band

Edited by tuscaneer on Tuesday 20th April 11:39

gbbird

5,186 posts

244 months

Tuesday 20th April 2010
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mordred!! i`d forgotten them.didn`t their album have a jester on the front?fking great band

Edited by tuscaneer on Tuesday 20th April 11:39

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Yes indeed - that one is Fools Game i believe. In This Life was my personal fave album by them. Saw them once at Bradford Queens Hall.

Edited by gbbird on Tuesday 20th April 11:42

tuscaneer

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Tuesday 20th April 2010
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ithink the best metal live performance i have ever seen was megadeth at birmingham nec co headlining with slayer on the clash of the titans tour.supporting rust in peace and it was mindblowing.made a show of slayer.from memory suicidal tendencies,the almighty,and a new unheard of band called alice in chains were supporting!(1990????)

tuscaneer

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Wednesday 21st April 2010
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I SAW FUDGE TUNNEL SUPPORTING (sorry caps lock on) pitch shifter many moons ago in the planet x in liverpool.i`m not joking ,i was only in my early teens and i couldn`t hear for days after.
saw some cracking bands down there.we used to get a surprising amount of east coast hardcore bands coming over.supertouch,gorrila biscuits etc.

tuscaneer

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Wednesday 21st April 2010
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ugKNS7znXU

we supported these guys back in `96 ithink it was.nothing like the tastes of you mad bds in here but sensational live band!.samiam were also on the bill.bit of a weird time for revelation records as a lot of the west coast sounding stuff was filtering east and revelation`s sound was expanding a lot.good times!
worst times were missing out on supporting korn on their first trip to these shores at the krazyhouse liverpool.also, missing out on supporting biohazard because our bass player was on holiday.i`d have come home early for a piece of that action!

Edited by tuscaneer on Wednesday 21st April 07:28

tuscaneer

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Wednesday 21st April 2010
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UuXFQzG8jg

i was at this show in london^^^^
possibly the only krishna-core band ever!!(born from youth of today) their old stuff (like this)was fking great.stylistically very similar to our early stuff.actually,scrub that, we ripped them off!!them and quicksand before korn and the deftones had me detuning like a madman!

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