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BFG TERRANO

1,661 posts

33 months

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Sunday 16th September 2012 quote quote all
TheHeretic said:
Not in my experience.
I was told this before I bought my set. Have to say I've not noticed it yet

kooky guy

483 posts

51 months

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Monday 17th September 2012 quote quote all
TheHeretic said:
ed1983 said:
All terrains are crap on wet Tarmac
Not in my experience.
Nor mine.

Bill

31,564 posts

140 months

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Monday 17th September 2012 quote quote all
I've had one moment in the wet on AT2s when the ABS kicked in unexpectedly while braking for a roundabout. Could have been the tyres, could have been diesel... Otherwise I've had no issue on a Disco 2.

Sarge 4x4

2,210 posts

90 months

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Monday 17th September 2012 quote quote all
The General AT2 is one of the best wet weather tyres available, so I find it hard to understand the statement above, maybe driver malfunction.

Bill

31,564 posts

140 months

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Monday 17th September 2012 quote quote all
Umm, coming down a slip road in the wet to a roundabout I needed to brake and the ABS kicked in when I didn't expect it, suggesting there was less grip available than I anticipated. Whether that was due the AT2/rain combo or diesel is the question.

Does that make sense?
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SlimJim16v

126 posts

28 months

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Monday 17th September 2012 quote quote all
Sarge 4x4 said:
The General AT2 is one of the best wet weather ALL TERRAIN tyres available, so I find it hard to understand the statement above, maybe driver malfunction.
Fixed it for you

Ayahuasca

17,992 posts

164 months

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Monday 17th September 2012 quote quote all
My wagon is shod with BF Goodrich Mud Terrains, which seem OK both on and off road.

Sarge 4x4

2,210 posts

90 months

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Monday 17th September 2012 quote quote all
Bill said:
Umm, coming down a slip road in the wet to a roundabout I needed to brake and the ABS kicked in when I didn't expect it, suggesting there was less grip available than I anticipated. Whether that was due the AT2/rain combo or diesel is the question.

Does that make sense?
Sorry did not mean your statement, the one about being cr*p in the wet further up.

reckless st

176 posts

92 months

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Sunday 30th September 2012 quote quote all
ive had cooper discovery at s on my pajero for four years great tyre but now ive upgraded to cooper discovery st s have been absolutly brilliant both tyres have worked well for me in all situations dry ,wet grass ,mud and serious of roading .on the road in wet conditions ive pushed hard through corners an i do mean hard and they have never given me any suprises .

Konan

312 posts

31 months

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Tuesday 2nd October 2012 quote quote all
TheHeretic said:
ed1983 said:
All terrains are crap on wet Tarmac
Not in my experience.
I've run in to this with worn AT tyres. Generally, they become rather useless when they've worn to the point that there are no sipings left. They still have plenty of depth on the tread due to their AT nature but when you look at the contact, you're driving on slick rubber with voids.

Lunablack

3,473 posts

47 months

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Saturday 6th October 2012 quote quote all
Just put some Cooper ATR's on my jeep... They're made by Avon.... Only done a few miles, but not noisey on Tarmac, and should have some offroad grip....

Cooper website says they're 60/40. Ie 60% road 40% offroad bias


Alex

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7,269 posts

169 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
I bought a spare set of 16" wheels off ebay and I'm going to fit them with General Grabber AT2s.

Watchman

2,964 posts

130 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
We have had 255/55/19 Grabber AT2s on our ML320CDI for about 2 years. There appear to be no negatives compared with the "road" tyres previously fitted as standard. They grip as well on dry or wet roads, are no noisier, actually last longer and made possible journeys in the snow. In fact, I towed an ML up a hill in the snow which had been "stranded" because of the road tyres (seen him since on a set of AT2s).

They're excellent on waterlogged fields too.

Bought a new set in the Summer (when prices were reasonable) to store until the beginning of the Winter. Noticed they are now only listed as ATs but I'm (fairly) sure they are the same.

Sarge 4x4

2,210 posts

90 months

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Monday 8th October 2012 quote quote all
Watchman said:
We have had 255/55/19 Grabber AT2s on our ML320CDI for about 2 years.
Very sorry to say that if you did have 255/55x19 General AT2's on your ML they would be the only ones in the world as they have never been made, maybe you mean 255/55x18 !

Watchman

2,964 posts

130 months

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Monday 8th October 2012 quote quote all
Well, they were sold as AT2s two years ago (I still have the internet receipt) but they do only say AT on the side of the tyre.

Same as the new ones below - and same tread pattern too.:


kingstondc5

2,041 posts

89 months

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Tuesday 23rd October 2012 quote quote all
Hello people,

Thought this would be the best thread to ask in as its doing my nut in when googling what i want.

What i want is a tyre that i can go 'soft' green laning in (ive got a scooby forester - same ground clearence height of a Freelander roughly, so nothing to harcore) thats also good on the road for the 'winter' months.

When the weather picks back up again, ill stick another set of rims on with my 'summer' tyres so im guessing im looking for A/T tyres but do i need M+S?

Im not looking to spend a fortune on tyres so will probably go down the 2nd hand/ebay route from trusted sources.

Also, are Kingpin tyres just rebranded BFG's or share the same tread pattern?

Thanks

Sarge 4x4

2,210 posts

90 months

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Tuesday 23rd October 2012 quote quote all
Watchman said:
Well, they were sold as AT2s two years ago (I still have the internet receipt) but they do only say AT on the side of the tyre.

Same as the new ones below - and same tread pattern too.:

They are the AT for sure, very nice tyres that tick most boxes.

Watchman

2,964 posts

130 months

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Saturday 3rd November 2012 quote quote all
Apart from sizing, what are the differences between the AT and AT2? I can't find any comparisons on my BB (I'm on holiday without a PC).

Just curious.

Sarge 4x4

2,210 posts

90 months

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Sunday 4th November 2012 quote quote all
The AT2 is being dropped in favor (not for all) of the AT, seems a bit strange as you would think AT3 would be the next step, this is mainly down to new EU tyre noise regulations.

There are still a few sizes available in AT2 as follows; 235/75x15, 225/75x16, 235/85x16, 265/75x16 and 265/70x17, these are classed as commercial sizes so will run for hopefully a while yet.

The AT is a very good tyre that tickes most boxes and is very popular, however we do hear a few who like the AT2 more but as we only sell them there is not much we can do about that.

I have just picked up a set of 285/60x18 General AT2's for my Amazon which is great as they have the snowflake/mountain on the sidewall.

Was running 285/65x18 BFGoodrich AT KO's but find them a little slippy in the wet and I know the General will be better for me.

Watchman

2,964 posts

130 months

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Sunday 4th November 2012 quote quote all
Interesting that AT is favoured by the EU because of noise. We found them quiter than even the standard "road" tyres that normally come on the ML which was a surprise.

It sounds as though you prefer the AT2 though. Why would that be? It's academic for us as there are so few off road capable tyres for 19 inch wheels. I think BFG does , MT but that would be too aggressive for our mostly road use.
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