V8/V6/S6/etc Engined 4x4

V8/V6/S6/etc Engined 4x4

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Art0ir

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9,401 posts

169 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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Called seller this afternoon after not being able to get through this morning, said he would call me back. Just called to say he sold it 5 minutes ago. *Sigh*. Back to Gumtree & Autotrader.

Art0ir

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9,401 posts

169 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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Found another.. actually looks a better buy. Slightly dearer but less miles and much better bodywork and new tyres all around (£££'s).

chalkey

89 posts

140 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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good luck with the hunt, they are worth the wait just make sure you get a good one smile

K50 DEL

9,227 posts

227 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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I see lots of others have suggested a WJ so I'll just add a +1

I run a 1998 4.7 Ltd in the UK and a 2004 4.7 HO Overland in Dubai so am clearly biaised, but they are great trucks, very capable offroad and (compared to the Range Rovers I ran before) reliable.

As noted above, they do have their foibles though, blend doors is the most well known one, but engine mounts break fairly often and the cooling system needs to be kept in good condition.

There are a number of decent forums around and some very good parts prices from independants.


Art0ir

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9,401 posts

169 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Well the chap I was meant to call over to this weekend to take his Jeep from didn't work out.. Three times I asked him for his number and gave him mine to speed up the process but he would only communicate via eBay messages. Obviously only checks them every two days as well which is a waste of time. Feck him, his loss.

So there's one closer to me, higher miles (130k) but FSH and recent LPG service too. Noise from the rear diff on full lock (LSD in these, so hoping it just needs an oil change or at worst a bearing which a day underneath some axle stands should sort..) but other than that looks mechanically sound. A lot cheaper too so hopefully it should all balance out, will see tonight!

pcn1

1,209 posts

218 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Had my 2004 Overland 2.7 crd WJ a year now and put 8K on it.
Just did the blend door repair the other week (£90 kit from e-bay)
Apart from the usual servicing and consumerables its been faultless.

Will upgrade to the Addco rear sway bar soon just to tidy up the ride quality.
I think they are great VFM if you get a decent example.

Art0ir

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9,401 posts

169 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Well I bought the one I went to see tonight..

2003 4.7 V8 HO Overland
130k miles
FSH & Full LPG Service History (fitted at 600 miles)
Lots of work done recently.
Folder full of receipts right from 2003.
All the mod cons; Sat Nav, Parking Sensors, Heated Leather.. amazingly well kitted out for the money! Parrot handsfree also fitted.
Owned by a Doctor until 125k miles, 2nd owner bought it in April but just had kids and changed job (more travelling, less money).
Needs the blend doors done, which I'll do myself (any links to European sellers much appreciated).
The rear diff seems to be very aggressive and hops when on full lock, hopefully a fluid change will sort this..
Also has a radar jammer fitted but I'm not sure if it's working or not..

Thanks for the advice gents, hopefully some trouble free winter V8 hacking ahead!

Two pictures from the ad





Edited by Art0ir on Thursday 18th October 20:46

jbi

12,668 posts

203 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Art0ir said:
The rear diff seems to be very aggressive and hops when on full lock, hopefully a fluid change will sort this..
sounds like the fluid has been changed without adding any friction modifier for the limited slip diff.

You can get it from your local jeep dealer... I've a couple bottles of the stuff they gave me for free after the last service.


Art0ir

Original Poster:

9,401 posts

169 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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jbi said:
sounds like the fluid has been changed without adding any friction modifier for the limited slip diff.

You can get it from your local jeep dealer... I've a couple bottles of the stuff they gave me for free after the last service.

Ah fantastic thanks! Best to drain the lot and add together with new fluid?

jbi

12,668 posts

203 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Yup... drain and refill smile

I used some nice Castrol Syntrax Limited Slip 75W 140 in the rear, and Castrol Universal 75w-90 semi-synthetic gear oil in the front

The Syntrax already has some additive in it, but I found it needed some more before the wheel hopping stopped.

Don't put too much in though as you will lose 4x4 since the LSD will slip too much.


Art0ir

Original Poster:

9,401 posts

169 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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jbi said:
Yup... drain and refill smile

I used some nice Castrol Syntrax Limited Slip 75W 140 in the rear, and Castrol Universal 75w-90 semi-synthetic gear oil in the front

The Syntrax already has some additive in it, but I found it needed some more before the wheel hopping stopped.

Don't put too much in though as you will lose 4x4 since the LSD will slip too much.
Can you remember how much you added in the end? This was way below budget so I'm happy to spend the extra to get it sitting as it should. I've also been looking at some thicker rear anti-sway bars, reviews seem to be excellent.

jbi

12,668 posts

203 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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2.5 oz (74ml) in the front and 4 oz (118ml) in the rear is what jeep recommends, however it's not an exact science and there is a bit of trial and error involved I found.

I think I put a bit less in the rear since the Castrol Syntrax already had some slip additive in

It also helps quieten the diff down a bit.

Edited by jbi on Thursday 18th October 21:27

K50 DEL

9,227 posts

227 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Useful tips there JBI, I have the same hopping and noise issue on my '04 Overland, so will see if the Jeep dealer here has some of that in stock.... is there a Jeep part code on it at all?

Ledaig

1,694 posts

261 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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pcn1 said:
Will upgrade to the Addco rear sway bar soon just to tidy up the ride quality.
I think they are great VFM if you get a decent example.
You may want to think about fitting a set of these to the rear lower control arms......

poly bush

The difference these made to the ride quality and handling was astounding - and that's without poly bushing anything else.

projectman

1 posts

137 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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Not sure if i have the right spot but , I have a Lexus V8 powered Hilux Surf with a 5 speed manual gearbox , its an awesome combination

Art0ir

Original Poster:

9,401 posts

169 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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projectman said:
Not sure if i have the right spot but , I have a Lexus V8 powered Hilux Surf with a 5 speed manual gearbox , its an awesome combination
That sounds like great fun altogether!

chalkey

89 posts

140 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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Ledaig said:
You may want to think about fitting a set of these to the rear lower control arms......

poly bush

The difference these made to the ride quality and handling was astounding - and that's without poly bushing anything else.
thats interesting i have a full superpro kit to fit to mine, its only been in the garage a year smile

pcn1

1,209 posts

218 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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jbi said:
sounds like the fluid has been changed without adding any friction modifier for the limited slip diff.

You can get it from your local jeep dealer... I've a couple bottles of the stuff they gave me for free after the last service.

This is a bit confusing. Last service I had my spanner man change the diff and tranfer box fluids using the correct Mopar spec oils.
Are you saying that this additive should have been used as well, or only if you experience a problem ?

Ledaig

1,694 posts

261 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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chalkey said:
thats interesting i have a full superpro kit to fit to mine, its only been in the garage a year smile
You may want to think about chucking this part of the kit on when you get the chance, having spoken to Greg at 4play, he did mention that these alone will give the best improvement to the vehicle.
I didn't even go up there to buy these just to pick up a batch of fluids and pads+discs, it's amazing how he can talk you into spending even more money hehe

Art0ir

Original Poster:

9,401 posts

169 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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Ledaig said:
You may want to think about chucking this part of the kit on when you get the chance, having spoken to Greg at 4play, he did mention that these alone will give the best improvement to the vehicle.
I didn't even go up there to buy these just to pick up a batch of fluids and pads+discs, it's amazing how he can talk you into spending even more money hehe
I want to search for this "4play" shop but I'm worried the Google search results may be.. inappropriate. Does he have a website?