Post evidence of off-roading f*ckwittery
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Ayahuasca said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8lMxYnGIrw
This is a contender for the most life-threatening off-roading f
kwittery.
Fortunately Darwin was looking the other way.
I know absolutely nothing about off roading, but even I can tell that these people are simply retarded to another level.This is a contender for the most life-threatening off-roading f
kwittery.Fortunately Darwin was looking the other way.
Its like they saw some off roading videos, bought all the kit then went down to the 'My first offroading centre' to show off their mad university of youtube skillz.
Crossflow Kid said:
bakerstreet said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Salisbury Plain.......because it is just a big free public P&P site really isn't it? 
ALl I see here is a few blokes driving through a puddle more than once. Unless they are off piest, then I don't see a massive problem
I have never been to the plain. I'm hoping to go when I get my Series sorted
There is a very widely held and entirely incorrect opinion that as it all belongs to the MOD, people can rock up to SPTA and do what the f*ck they like, go where they like and nothing will be said or done.
Bear this in mind though. Mlitary traffic doesn't use public Rights of Way on the whole, so any damage is down to civilian users, and the byways that are open to civilian traffic belong to Wiltshire County Council who regard their abuse just as they would with any other green lane.
Edited by Crossflow Kid on Tuesday 27th November 17:09
If I was someone else with a different agenda then I would say they are ruining the countryside and should be banned?
Who is right?
Actually, us greenlaners are right although we are in the vast minority and are less vocal too. The fact that roads can be closed to a hobbyist market is unforgiveable especially when so called 'travellers' are given land to site their caravans when they don't 'travel' and greenlanes, once closed, are never replaced.
Honestly, it makes me wonder how effective GLASS is in representing the rights of greenlaners. Not very by all accounts. The vast majority of greenlaners do no harm at all. Even the naughty ones are doing negligible harm - making mud in the wrong place isn't actually a disgrace......unless you are in the less vocal minority in the first place.
Greenlaners are losing this. Eventually the lanes will all be gone until someone stands up for all of us and just takes the argument by the horns instead of pandering to busy-body do-gooders whose lives are not being impacted by someone using free space in a way which suits them. After all, ramblers don't pay rambling tax whereas motorists all pay VED.
Unemployed said:
Crossflow Kid said:
bakerstreet said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Salisbury Plain.......because it is just a big free public P&P site really isn't it?
ALl I see here is a few blokes driving through a puddle more than once. Unless they are off piest, then I don't see a massive problem
I have never been to the plain. I'm hoping to go when I get my Series sorted
There is a very widely held and entirely incorrect opinion that as it all belongs to the MOD, people can rock up to SPTA and do what the f*ck they like, go where they like and nothing will be said or done.
Bear this in mind though. Mlitary traffic doesn't use public Rights of Way on the whole, so any damage is down to civilian users, and the byways that are open to civilian traffic belong to Wiltshire County Council who regard their abuse just as they would with any other green lane.
Edited by Crossflow Kid on Tuesday 27th November 17:09
If I was someone else with a different agenda then I would say they are ruining the countryside and should be banned?
Who is right?
Actually, us greenlaners are right although we are in the vast minority and are less vocal too. The fact that roads can be closed to a hobbyist market is unforgiveable especially when so called 'travellers' are given land to site their caravans when they don't 'travel' and greenlanes, once closed, are never replaced.
Honestly, it makes me wonder how effective GLASS is in representing the rights of greenlaners. Not very by all accounts. The vast majority of greenlaners do no harm at all. Even the naughty ones are doing negligible harm - making mud in the wrong place isn't actually a disgrace......unless you are in the less vocal minority in the first place.
Greenlaners are losing this. Eventually the lanes will all be gone until someone stands up for all of us and just takes the argument by the horns instead of pandering to busy-body do-gooders whose lives are not being impacted by someone using free space in a way which suits them. After all, ramblers don't pay rambling tax whereas motorists all pay VED.
Off-roading as a hobby on GLs is f
ked; there are too many who just don't give a toss about the damage they do. The future is PaP sites IMO; the off-road equivalent of the track day.In my experience, there are very few where the damage is truly significant and, ultimately, no one is holding councils to account for the repair of damage in return for the tax paid. I have only seen a few routes which would be unpassable to walkers and, where I have, I don't see why their needs should be prioritised over mine anyway, particularly, yet again, when I pay tax to use the road and they don't. People forget that these are roads not walking paths.
Greenlaning is ultimately doomed but not because of greenlaners. The wonder is that the anti-green lane campaign have even got greenlaners to believe that it is their fault!
Only edited to add that I NEVER vary off the route of a green lane.
Greenlaning is ultimately doomed but not because of greenlaners. The wonder is that the anti-green lane campaign have even got greenlaners to believe that it is their fault!
Only edited to add that I NEVER vary off the route of a green lane.
Unemployed said:
As someone who enjoys using his two Land Rovers off road, I can't see they are doing any harm at all. The Earth is here for us all to enjoy so why not?
If I was someone else with a different agenda then I would say they are ruining the countryside and should be banned?
Who is right?
Actually, us greenlaners are right although we are in the vast minority and are less vocal too. The fact that roads can be closed to a hobbyist market is unforgiveable especially when so called 'travellers' are given land to site their caravans when they don't 'travel' and greenlanes, once closed, are never replaced.
Honestly, it makes me wonder how effective GLASS is in representing the rights of greenlaners. Not very by all accounts. The vast majority of greenlaners do no harm at all. Even the naughty ones are doing negligible harm - making mud in the wrong place isn't actually a disgrace......unless you are in the less vocal minority in the first place.
Greenlaners are losing this. Eventually the lanes will all be gone until someone stands up for all of us and just takes the argument by the horns instead of pandering to busy-body do-gooders whose lives are not being impacted by someone using free space in a way which suits them. After all, ramblers don't pay rambling tax whereas motorists all pay VED.
Good points, all well made. I can't see any serious harm being done either, but in the current climate driving lanes is like walking on egg shells lest some bobble hatter uses the resulting "damage" as ammunition. The lane in the video used to be a single track down the side of a grassy clearing in some trees. It was a genuinely nice place to trundle through. Now look at it.If I was someone else with a different agenda then I would say they are ruining the countryside and should be banned?
Who is right?
Actually, us greenlaners are right although we are in the vast minority and are less vocal too. The fact that roads can be closed to a hobbyist market is unforgiveable especially when so called 'travellers' are given land to site their caravans when they don't 'travel' and greenlanes, once closed, are never replaced.
Honestly, it makes me wonder how effective GLASS is in representing the rights of greenlaners. Not very by all accounts. The vast majority of greenlaners do no harm at all. Even the naughty ones are doing negligible harm - making mud in the wrong place isn't actually a disgrace......unless you are in the less vocal minority in the first place.
Greenlaners are losing this. Eventually the lanes will all be gone until someone stands up for all of us and just takes the argument by the horns instead of pandering to busy-body do-gooders whose lives are not being impacted by someone using free space in a way which suits them. After all, ramblers don't pay rambling tax whereas motorists all pay VED.
As mentioned, unless there's either some serious self-regulation or a massive change of public/meeja opinion, the scenario in the vid is playing in to the hands of the do-gooders, and what boils my piss about the whole thing is the mud pluggy bellends who assume, completely incorrectly, that Salisbury Plain belongs to "the Army" and as such normal guidelines don't apply.
The MoD would love to see all the lanes shut so they can get on with training and not worry about Joe Public, and the disproportionately high (ab)use many of the lanes get is giving them a very good case to put before WCC.
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 29th November 20:17
mikeh501 said:
wow this is scary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DWiIRZI7A0
Saw a liveleak video from SE Asia where the same thing happened and killed a bloke. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DWiIRZI7A0
Learning to ride in ruts is a particular skill requirement for greenlaning on a bike.
Tractors and the 4x4 lot have really caused a big problem - 2 tonnes minimum of land rover squelching down a green lane will cause a lot of damage.
0.17tonnes of dirt bike and rider will cause absolutely negligible damage.
If the land rover boys want to keep the lanes open then get on a bike and stop fking up the lanes for everyone else - please.
Tractors and the 4x4 lot have really caused a big problem - 2 tonnes minimum of land rover squelching down a green lane will cause a lot of damage.
0.17tonnes of dirt bike and rider will cause absolutely negligible damage.
If the land rover boys want to keep the lanes open then get on a bike and stop f
king up the lanes for everyone else - please.task said:
At one point I was expecting them to just set fire to it.....see if that did anything.Utter, utter bell ends, especially Fatty in the hi vi.
hman said:
Learning to ride in ruts is a particular skill requirement for greenlaning on a bike.
Tractors and the 4x4 lot have really caused a big problem - 2 tonnes minimum of land rover squelching down a green lane will cause a lot of damage.
0.17tonnes of dirt bike and rider will cause absolutely negligible damage.
If the land rover boys want to keep the lanes open then get on a bike and stop fking up the lanes for everyone else - please.
'Tractors and the 4x4 lot have really caused a big problem - 2 tonnes minimum of land rover squelching down a green lane will cause a lot of damage.
0.17tonnes of dirt bike and rider will cause absolutely negligible damage.
If the land rover boys want to keep the lanes open then get on a bike and stop f
king up the lanes for everyone else - please.All well and good if you are physically able to ride a bike
.....hman said:
Learning to ride in ruts is a particular skill requirement for greenlaning on a bike.
Tractors and the 4x4 lot have really caused a big problem - 2 tonnes minimum of land rover squelching down a green lane will cause a lot of damage.
0.17tonnes of dirt bike and rider will cause absolutely negligible damage.
If the land rover boys want to keep the lanes open then get on a bike and stop fking up the lanes for everyone else - please.
So first we had ramblers wanting it all to themselves, now bikers do too?Tractors and the 4x4 lot have really caused a big problem - 2 tonnes minimum of land rover squelching down a green lane will cause a lot of damage.
0.17tonnes of dirt bike and rider will cause absolutely negligible damage.
If the land rover boys want to keep the lanes open then get on a bike and stop f
king up the lanes for everyone else - please.Can't remember the last time I "squelched" anywhere but hey, don't let that ruin your misconceptions.
Crossflow Kid said:
task said:
At one point I was expecting them to just set fire to it.....see if that did anything.Utter, utter bell ends, especially Fatty in the hi vi.
Crossflow Kid said:
So first we had ramblers wanting it all to themselves, now bikers do too?
Can't remember the last time I "squelched" anywhere but hey, don't let that ruin your misconceptions.
Quite right..... My new knees won't allow me to ride a bike anyway..... But when I've been on the lanes I've seen enough fCan't remember the last time I "squelched" anywhere but hey, don't let that ruin your misconceptions.
kwittery from the bike fraternity to know they're just as bad as the fkwits in 4x4's and the fkwits on foot and the fkwits on mountain bikesThe bottom line is that a f
kwit is a fkwit..... No matter what form of transport he takes...hman said:
Learning to ride in ruts is a particular skill requirement for greenlaning on a bike.
Tractors and the 4x4 lot have really caused a big problem - 2 tonnes minimum of land rover squelching down a green lane will cause a lot of damage.
0.17tonnes of dirt bike and rider will cause absolutely negligible damage.
If the land rover boys want to keep the lanes open then get on a bike and stop fking up the lanes for everyone else - please.
My experience is that it's a skill bike riders never bother to learn. I frequently see them riding alongside the trails whether they're rutted or not. I also see them driving a fast as possible which, frankly, is not something I see from drivers of Land Rovers. Tractors and the 4x4 lot have really caused a big problem - 2 tonnes minimum of land rover squelching down a green lane will cause a lot of damage.
0.17tonnes of dirt bike and rider will cause absolutely negligible damage.
If the land rover boys want to keep the lanes open then get on a bike and stop f
king up the lanes for everyone else - please.A rut isnt damage anyway. It's just earth or mud shaped in a different way. No one dies, no one get injured, nothing from the planet is consumed and nothing produces any harmful gases. This is what the planet is for.
TheHeretic said:
Crossflow Kid said:
task said:
At one point I was expecting them to just set fire to it.....see if that did anything.Utter, utter bell ends, especially Fatty in the hi vi.
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